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President Obama is imposing cutbacks on greenhouse gas emissions.

"As president, and as a parent, I refuse to condemn our children to a planet that's beyond fixing," Obama said.

Part of the plan is to give states and local governments latitude on how to reduce pollution, encouraging solar and wind power instead of forcing power plants to close.

Mike Enzi, a Republican senator from Wyoming, says the move will cut coal and the 800,000 jobs that go along with it. "If it succeeds in death by regulation, we'll all be paying a lot more money for electricity, if we can get it," Enzi says. The U.S. chamber of commerce estimates it will cost the economy $50 billion a year, but some say those claims are exaggerated. "This is something we can't put off and the president deserves huge credit for making this his legacy," says David Doniger of the Natural Resources Defense Council.

Here in Oklahoma, PSO customers should expect their bills to go up at least 11% starting in 2016. The company anticipates the rate hikes because of the changes to the way we get energy. "We're hopeful that there will not be additional costs now associated with CO2," says Stan Whiteford with PSO.

The EPA rules cover more than 600 pages of material, so experts are combing through the technical information.

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This should be a retooling and creation of new industry, like when cell phone stared squeezing out land lines.

And using less oil make us more dependent on foreign sources how? How much oil do you think an electric car uses?

At this point in time solar is simply to expensive. Wind is becoming more viable due to turbine technology.

My assessment was pretty simple and straight forward, but , I'll explain further.

This will shut down many coal fired power plants, due to increased costs.

In turn, Power plant employees, as well as those nearby businesses which cater to the plant, and it's employees, will suffer with losing jobs. We won't need many coal miners either, so they will suffer job losses as well. In order to fill the gaps in the power grid, the fossil fuel power generators will ramp up power production, and require more petroleum, much of which will be needed from international sources.






The cell phone argument doesn't work here. Here's why.

The cell phone squeezed out the land line phones because the technology was superior to land service, and became affordable to most land line owners.

An electric car is a foolish investment for many budget minded consumers because of the initial cost. They are simply not yet affordable to the average U. S. consumer. Besides, You can't pull your boat, or save the world with a Volt or Prius. Heck, every time you plug in an electric car, your likely powering it back up with electricity generated by a fossil fuel burning power plant, in most areas today.

Inadvertently, an electric car uses more oil than you want to give it credit for.

I feel your assessment is an over simplification.

Infrastructure spending choices

How about when the govmut killed regular tv broadcasts and forced digital HD?
Just about destroyed the economy, didn't it?

They didn't (as brew suggests) create an economic boom. They simply prevented the Time Warner's of the world from creating multiple formats (see beta vs. vhs).

So you changing subjects again?

Don't forget the strategy of defining what someone says as something other than what they said and arguing with that or proving it wrong rather than what they really said then declaring victory with the support of groupthink of course.

That's my favorite method I see used in here.

So you changing subjects again?

It may not have destroyed the economy, but it severely cripples those poor folks who you claim to speak for.
Try balancing your cable, internet and smart phone bills on a minimum wage.

No. The subject was government mandates that actually help create new industry rather than just killing job as some have floated here.

HD, TW would never think of that. He is never wrong.

Yeah because he rides the fence and hops on whichever side is fashionable at the moment.

I will, however, change my opinion when presented with facts that make it necessary.

Yeah... MACS strikes me as the sort of guy who'd want a BBQ flavored "fence-post topper" to sit in.

Yeah because he rides the fence