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Illegal immigrants protest outside White House, with little fear of repercussions
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DrafterX Offline
#51 Posted: Thu, Jul 31 2014, 12:55 PM EST
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go ahead and yell that Ally Akabar thing..... that way they'll call it work place violence.... Mellow
TMCTLT Offline
#52 Posted: Thu, Jul 31 2014, 2:50 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I keep hearing that from folks that don't speak to many here legally. I'm around a lot of "legals" and don't get that sense. Voting patterns don't seem to bear that out either.

There is a bridge downtown where a bunch of them hang out. The contractors that come by daily in pick ups to hire them on a daily basis don't seem very upset either. It's in a part of town with a huge mix of legal and non. No one seems very pissed off.




So am I genius as I'm in the contracting business and I DO NOT HIRE THEM unless they are here legally and or already a citizen. And I HAVE spoken to many who ARE PISSED OFF!! So you and others keep on thinking what you will. Just because greedy **** hire them doesn't make it right or LEGAL.
teedubbya Offline
#53 Posted: Thu, Jul 31 2014, 4:54 PM EST
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I didn't say it was right or legal. I'm just not sure the generalizations are true.
teedubbya Offline
#54 Posted: Thu, Jul 31 2014, 5:07 PM EST
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From my experience the Hispanic community around here seems pretty sympathetic to illegals and allows them to hide in plain site. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying it's right.

As a matter of fact as a result I've been in some very uncomfortable situations. I've been immersed it it more than I cared to be.

Weird thing to me. The community is very wary of government. Anti government. The "legals" push back at anything requiring id, social security numbers, etc. yet the vote the party of big government (when they vote. The irony there is low turn out sometimes because even though they are legit they still fear government so the whole argument of growing a voting block as a motivation rings hollow to me)

It would seam that should make the republicans their party. Especially if you really believe they are pissed about the illegal thing. If the republicans really believe that then they should continue on the same path and they will capture the legal Latin vote. Something tells me there is a disconnect there.

That's not to say some don't think that way. I just don't think it's most.
teedubbya Offline
#55 Posted: Thu, Jul 31 2014, 5:11 PM EST
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Republican actions are somehow alienating this group. It's not a messaging thing it's actions. Why is that? If you really believe it's all the illegals voting or some such nonsense you've already lost. It's something else. The sooner republicans get rid of some if the misnomers and false realities the sooner they can play the game. But if they keep clinging to falsehoods they hold true game over in that community.
teedubbya Offline
#56 Posted: Thu, Jul 31 2014, 5:14 PM EST
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If the Hispanic community is so upset about the illegal issue they would be actively trying to solve it and outing illegals. I suppose some groups are but it's not large scale. If they were Muslim we'd be outraged.
teedubbya Offline
#57 Posted: Thu, Jul 31 2014, 5:16 PM EST
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Oh yea in their communities actions also speak louder than words. The proper formal answer is to be outraged and say we need to do domething and I'm legal so they should blah blah blah. The gringos eat that **** up.
victor809 Offline
#58 Posted: Thu, Jul 31 2014, 5:35 PM EST
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Who are you conversing with?
teedubbya Offline
#59 Posted: Thu, Jul 31 2014, 5:52 PM EST
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Drafter
victor809 Offline
#60 Posted: Thu, Jul 31 2014, 5:53 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Drafter

Confused CoolHuh Laugh
wheelrite Offline
#61 Posted: Thu, Jul 31 2014, 6:00 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Who are you conversing with?


TW doesn't converse, he " conversates".

Eubonics,,,,


wheel,,
gryphonms Offline
#62 Posted: Thu, Jul 31 2014, 6:03 PM EST
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TW, if you chopped down a Cherry tree you would say Drafter did it. LMAO!
teedubbya Offline
#63 Posted: Thu, Jul 31 2014, 7:09 PM EST
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Drafter DID do it.
victor809 Offline
#64 Posted: Thu, Jul 31 2014, 8:14 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Drafter DID do it.

I dunno... that sounds like a lot of effort for drafter to exert.

He'd probably just give up and get a sandwich or 4.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#65 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 7:58 AM EST
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“Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
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#66 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 8:03 AM EST
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“Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
gryphonms Offline
#67 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 8:05 AM EST
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Hi Rick, hope your having a good day.
DrafterX Offline
#68 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 8:06 AM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
“Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”




We were just kiddin.... Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#69 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 8:07 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Drafter DID do it.




needed the wood to smoke some ribs and stuff.... Mellow
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#70 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 8:11 AM EST
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“Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
HockeyDad Offline
#71 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 8:34 AM EST
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“Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
teedubbya Offline
#72 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 10:03 AM EST
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that solves it. send them to ricka. he said he wants them. maybe they will clean his coffee pot.
DrafterX Offline
#73 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 10:04 AM EST
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clean his coffee pot..??? Huh





never mind... I don't want to know... Not talking
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#74 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 10:05 AM EST
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“Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
teedubbya Offline
#75 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 10:18 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
clean his coffee pot..??? Huh





never mind... I don't want to know... Not talking



PAINT HIS FENCE TOO
DrafterX Offline
#76 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 10:19 AM EST
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Scared
TMCTLT Offline
#77 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 10:21 AM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
“Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”



It amazes me how you Liberal minded trolls want to adhere to " chosen passages " from our countries historical past writings that " fit well " into your World view of things but Dump all over the ones you adamantly disagree with.....Shame on you

First and Foremost....they ARE Law Breakers who are simply taking advantage of our Federal Governments refusal to Uphold Our Laws....PERIOD
teedubbya Offline
#78 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 10:24 AM EST
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in fairness I think selectivity is common to all of us. The "law and order" crowd included.
TMCTLT Offline
#79 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 10:27 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
in fairness I think selectivity is common to all of us. The "law and order" crowd included.




Well there you go, you do get to " think " whatever you like....it does NOT change the Facts.....they're law breakers and so are those who propose re writing our Laws to fit their view of things!!

Take this article for instance.....they wouldn't be trying to line up prospective voters......would they?? #-


http://www.gopusa.com/news/2014/08/01/democrat-law-giving-illegal-aliens-drivers-licenses-takes-effect-today/?subscriber=1

You gotta wonder...how do the Auto Insurers feel about thrusting these people upon their industry? Assuming ANY of them will purchase their products.....:-"
DrafterX Offline
#80 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 10:29 AM EST
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I broke da law once... but da law won.... Mellow
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#81 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 10:46 AM EST
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“Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
DrafterX Offline
#82 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 10:48 AM EST
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where is this golden door anyway..??? Huh
teedubbya Offline
#83 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 12:12 PM EST
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I heard hispanics have a high voter turnout rate.... especially the undocumented ones.
teedubbya Offline
#84 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 12:18 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Well there you go, you do get to " think " whatever you like....it does NOT change the Facts.....they're law breakers and so are those who propose re writing our Laws to fit their view of things!!





Being a law and order person I am sure all the other law and order folk beleive the rancher squatting on the federal land letting his cattle graze ilegally should leave, pay his back taxes and\or shut down operations. it is the law. he is the law breaker and so are those who propose re writing our Laws or obstructing our governments ability to enfoce them.

That would include the folks who stop busses of immigrants from central and south american countries \that are going through the process as laid out in the 2008 law. Sure the folks don't like that law but you can't be selective. I hear folks are looking at rewriting that law as we speak. law breakers!


we all chose out of convienience. even me. its not unusual.
teedubbya Offline
#85 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 12:24 PM EST
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it's not hard to find inconsistency and hypocracy. I'm full of it (some would add an sh to the beginning). But it's funny when folks pretend they are not.
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#86 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 12:35 PM EST
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Hang on.
I'm a little confused here.

How is proposing rewriting a law illegal? Hell.... that sounds suspiciously like "talking".
DrafterX Offline
#87 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 12:37 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Hang on.
I'm a little confused here.

How is proposing rewriting a law illegal? Hell.... that sounds suspiciously like "talking".



there's prolly a form for that... no need to talk.... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#88 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 12:41 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Hang on.
I'm a little confused here.

How is proposing rewriting a law illegal? Hell.... I'd guess that sounds suspiciously like "talking".



fixed it for you
teedubbya Offline
#89 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 12:42 PM EST
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no one should ever rewrite a law to fit their view of things. whats on the books is on the books. easy peasy.
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#90 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 12:45 PM EST
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Think
Is there a form somewhere for amending a couple of the Ten Commandments..??? Huh
teedubbya Offline
#91 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 12:47 PM EST
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there was until Heston died. now they are cast in stone.
victor809 Offline
#92 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 12:49 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
no one should ever rewrite a law to fit their view of things. whats on the books is on the books. easy peasy.


So... all the changes that have happened since 1791 were illegal. Wow.... and everyone that talked about any changes should be arrested. I GUESS you learn something new every day on a discount online cigar forum.
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#93 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 12:50 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
there was until Heston died. now they are cast in stone.



damn..... cause a couple of them could use a little tweaking for special circumstances and stuff... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#94 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 12:52 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
damn..... cause a couple of them could use a little tweaking for special circumstances and stuff... Mellow



well at least we wouldn't have to worry about all those unworthy folks voting and stuff.
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#95 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 12:59 PM EST
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Think
maybe instead of political parties we can start voting based on religion.... Think
teedubbya Offline
#96 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 1:07 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Think
maybe instead of political parties we can start voting based on religion.... Think



how would that change anything. Rs are god faring people D's worship the devil.
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#97 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 1:35 PM EST
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true... true... Mellow
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#98 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 2:20 PM EST
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let's kill them and drink their blood
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#99 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 2:24 PM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
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let's kill them and drink their blood





I dunno man... I heard they got lice and scurvies and stuff.. Mellow
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#100 Posted: Fri, Aug 1 2014, 2:50 PM EST
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is their blood red or some other color?
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