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You really aren't usually able to understand complex concepts are you.

First, the most important question. How do you know everyone held at Guantanamo is a terrorist or has been associated with terrorists at any time in their life?
(psst... the answer is you don't. Because of the way this administration and previous administrations have run guantanamo there is no course of action for an individual to defend themselves from their incarceration. You could be picked up and shipped to guantanamo and there would never be a trial for you to be able to prove you don't buy pizza hut pizza).

Once we get past the idea of whether the indiividuals are actually terrorists or whatnot... I'd like you to point to a single instance where I have said we need to "play nice and fair". That's a straw man you've been bandying about. You pretend I made that argument, then you argue against it. Now, I understand that it may be hard for you to grasp the nuances of my posts, but I have little care what we do with proven enemy combatants, homeless people, people who can't read, or people without a basic grasp of logic. If you want to behead them all, go for it. Turn them into soylent green. My argument is simply that you can't have your cake and eat it too. You can't go strutting around pretending you're from the greatest nation on the planet if the nation can be dragged down by the lowest groups on the planet. It's so simple I think even you can understand this.

pics or it didn't happen...

true..true.....



kidding aside if we implemented that policy (behead and dismember them) can you imagine how effed up the person would have to be (or would be following) that had to carry it out? Personnaly I think the ISIS folks that do that have to be sick in the head if not full out psychotic. Whomever did it on this end would have to approach that as well. sort of a microcosm of the broader policy.... and stuff

What if that tech fell in to the hands of the enema?

That statement right there, I think, highlights the fundamental difference in our(The West) outlook on life and what it means to be a decent human being to them(The terrorists, and Middle Easterners in general). They grew up in a culture and religion that teaches them life is cheap. Your sister gets raped? Kill her or your family has no honor. A woman in your family goes unaccompanied into public without a male relative? Whip her. Their Prophet Muhammad, Gods supposed messenger had sex with a 9 year old girl and they see not one thing wrong with that.... They teach that part of his history! They don't even try to act like it didn't happen! The religion of peace? Yeah, right. One thing most people don't know about the Koran is that if there is any conflicting messages found, the part that was written later trumps any earlier message. So the Koran starts with messages of peace but is contradicted later on by messages of kill all non believers. So the Imams go on CNN and preach about the religion of peace and fail to mention that all those peaceful messages are over ruled by later parts of the Koran. A thief gets caught and they cut off his hand and then they all slap each other on the back for a job well done. Growing up in a brutal culture and religion like that... they just don't see the horror and inhumanity in the things they do like we do. It's why we will never be able to affect change over there. Those guys who behead our people... I'd give 1000 to 1 odds that they sleep like babies and will even brag to their friends and family about it for their entire lives, short lives I hope. You cannot reason with a culture who has a different definition of what reasonable thought and behavior is.

With all the talk about how bad ISIS is, there sure are a lot of reports out there that they were trained and armed by the USA. Those weapons we bought in Libya needed a home and what better place than to people fighting Assad in Syria.

Keep in mind that ISIS is actually fighting against the Iranian alliance in the Middle East. This is also helpful to Israel and Saudi Arabia. They got too bold in Iraq for our liking but still are useful to our goals of destabilizing the region.

I wouldn't be expecting any major attack on ISIS from the USA.

There is something to be said for the old saying, "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush."

Though hated Huessian, Mubarack and to a lessor extent Qaddafi and Assad had a way of controlling their countrymen. Challenges to their regime were dealt with swiftly and severely. In the void left by by the deaths of 3 and the marginalization of the other the middle east has been conscripted by Muslims wishing to establish an Islamic State ruled by Sharia Law led by the Taliban in Afghanistan and Khomeini in Iran.

As is often the case, one should be cautious in what one wishes for.

Perhaps a better strategy would be to let those in that region run their own affairs. It seems modern history has been unkind to those would seek regime changes in lands far from their borders.

We meddled in the affairs of Vietnam. Countless casualties and the loss of 55,000+ American lives achieved what?.

The Russians attempted to control Afghanistan and were pushed out. To a large degree we have had no bettor success.

Saddam was removed from power because of ****** Chaney's 1% doctrine. The administration convinced the American people he had WMD's and planned to use them on us. We now know that was not the case. Look at Iraq now. Are we safer or more at danger with Saddam's demise?

Suppose we "cleaned the House of Saud," what guarantee do we have that the new regime would be a bettor ally?

We'll have to agree to disagree. If one were to cut off the head of king snake so to speak, then there will be no one to control all the small snakes. The current situation is far from perfect, but the alternative is murky at best and more likely than not intensely chaotic. Considering the outcome of the recent regime changes I find it real hard to believe it would be a net plus.

See... this is the sort of stuff I find funny.

Ok. First, let me say it again... your whole "play nice with terrorists" thing is a strawman. In case you don't understand what a strawman is (I know, you skipped class that day too).. YOU created the argument in your own head, because in YOUR head that's what you think I want. Then you say I want us all to do it, and demand I defend against it. I never said anything about playing nice with anyone. You can drop that entire argument (except then you're left with nothing... which is why you're clinging to it).

On the other hand, you've now gone and stated that you'd practically take joy in beheading an unarmed, tied up terrorist in custody... because you're convinced that it's your "civic duty" and that you have to "even the score" and "level the playing field"... Most interestinly, it's because you "know I did what I HAD TO DO"... are you so afraid of an unarmed, tied up person in your custody that the only option you feel is available to you is to kill them? I'm pretty sure there are other options available... maybe better, maybe worse... but beheading definitely doesn't fit under "HAD TO DO"....and for some strange reason you want me nearby while you're on your "beheading unarmed people" spree.

What I find most ironic about the entire thing... your justification... "They ARE ANIMALS in the 1st degree" that's the same justification they use to justify their beheading of infidels. What was I just saying earlier about sinking to their level???

I omitted the scorecard because I didn't want to wade into that quagmire. But, you're right as those two major sub-factions have been at war since the dawn or Islam. Since we are aligned with the Saud's it's no surprise that we are seen as an enemy to the Shia's and particularity the ISIS movement.

ISIS is a Sunni movement. Iran hates them and wants them all dead. We're actually aligned with ISIS. We're only an enemy of ISIS if we get involved.

Pretty ironic that the Shias would rather use the democratic process than military coups!

I stand corrected. I was thinking it was a Shia movement.

Beer summit...

It would have to be mead Drafter.

Oh this is precious. First, I said "practically take joy" (note.. this is close to joy, not joy). You said you'd do it in a heartbeat, would lose no sleep, etc etc... the way you throw around words like "evening the score" and "payback" it sounds like you're practically playing with yourself while you type them.

What's even funnier, is that now you say "Anyone who can " without provocation " do that to a Non Combative person is just that...an Animal in the first degree and deserves a swift death"... what would you call an unarmed man in custody anyway? Not like they're any threat to you or anyone else at that point. So it sounds to me like you're pretty much describing yourself.

As for what other options I would prescribe? I don't prescribe anything. I simply understand that there are options. There's lifetime incarceration. There's a lobotomy. There's removal of hands/feet/tongue and rupturing of the eardrums. There's death through lethal injection. That's just off the top of my head. My only point is that you were incorrect in stating that the absolute only option one has with a terrorist is to allow TBCY to chop off their heads. Each option has it's own upsides and downsides. I pointed out the downsides of torture, I didn't say we can't, just that there's a downside.

Seriously... you need help. I could copy and paste the crap you write here and it would practically match word for word the same sh%t terrorists say to justify beheading american troops.

Yeah....I need a LOT of help understanding tinker belles like yourself who think that you deal with these Animals, yes I used it again....just can't come up with anything more befitting them than Animals. And it concerns me that your envisioning me " playing with myself " please STOP

The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round...

But the bus never moves.

^^^^ This Right Here....Tinker Belle

This used to be fun.

Can't we all just.........get along?

When your day is long
And the night, the night is yours alone
When you're sure you've had enough
Of this life, well hang on

Don't let yourself go
'Cause everybody cries
And everybody hurts sometimes....

Maybe if we just encourage them to loosen their gun laws there will be less violence.

Where's USAhog?

He would have HiLo jumped with nothing more than a bowie knife and a bag of jerky and killed every last mother ****ING one of them.