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teedubbya Offline
#151 Posted: Mon, Sep 22 2014, 2:23 PM EST
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jetblasted wrote:
A former friend from Portland, OR that I knew about 15 years ago used to talk about going "camping" along the Canadian border, and how he would return from "camping" with a backpack full of weed. Fast fwd a few years & I found out he moved back to Portland. A couple of years after that, I heard he was on another "camping" trip, and when he & his buddy were kayaking to shore, some sorta of LEO's there started asking questions. Turns out the kayak was full of ecstasy & I think he had to serve five years. I know he wound up in Miami for the New Orleans Super Bowl & that's the last anyone from our circle heard from him.


randomness. we fished the boundry waters on the MN/canada border nearly every year for 25 or so years. we saw LEO once or twice. we had no weed or X so all was good. But we did enter canada and return unscathed every time. We didn't have anyone brown with us though.
DrafterX Offline
#152 Posted: Mon, Sep 22 2014, 2:30 PM EST
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what, you can't take a brown guy fishing with you every now and then..?? Huh
teedubbya Offline
#153 Posted: Mon, Sep 22 2014, 2:34 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
what, you can't take a brown guy fishing with you every now and then..?? Huh



we don't like them. a few tried to go with us wihout our permission but when we found out we made them go home.
DrafterX Offline
#154 Posted: Mon, Sep 22 2014, 2:35 PM EST
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Laugh
TMCTLT Offline
#155 Posted: Mon, Sep 22 2014, 2:37 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
randomness. we fished the boundry waters on the MN/canada border nearly every year for 25 or so years. we saw LEO once or twice. we had no weed or X so all was good. But we did enter canada and return unscathed every time. We didn't have anyone brown with us though.




It's nice that yourself and Victor can continue to use your comparisons to quote literally MILLIONS up MILLIONS of illegals coming over the Southern Border to an occasional fisherman slipping up and back. No chance of a good clean discussions with folks who refuse to compare apples to Apples and stay On Topic. And imagine that yet another obvious insinuation that this is a RACIAL issue, you guys disgust me.
teedubbya Offline
#156 Posted: Mon, Sep 22 2014, 2:44 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
It's nice that yourself and Victor can continue to use your comparisons to quote literally MILLIONS up MILLIONS of illegals coming over the Southern Border to an occasional fisherman slipping up and back. No chance of a good clean discussions with folks who refuse to compare apples to Apples and stay On Topic. And imagine that yet another obvious insinuation that this is a RACIAL issue, you guys disgust me.



LOL ok mr focus like a lazer on credible issues. You can't even stay focused on what I say. You argue with something else because it didn't fit what you wanted or expected me to say. Obtuse. You have had people that would normally agree with your point of view telling you your ability to grasp facts and articulate them in to a coherent argument is lacking. You just are not good at it. I normally wouldn't say something like that but if you are going to aggressively accuse others of that I suppose you are prepared to hear it is an accurate description of you.

Sorry about the disgust thing. LMAO
DrafterX Offline
#157 Posted: Mon, Sep 22 2014, 2:46 PM EST
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I'm Outraged... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#158 Posted: Mon, Sep 22 2014, 2:49 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I'm Outraged... Mellow



have you tried milk of mag?
DrafterX Offline
#159 Posted: Mon, Sep 22 2014, 2:50 PM EST
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no, just the kind from cows..... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#160 Posted: Mon, Sep 22 2014, 2:51 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
no, just the kind from cows..... Mellow



do you have something against the mags?
DrafterX Offline
#161 Posted: Mon, Sep 22 2014, 2:57 PM EST
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no way man.... I have a good friend that's a mag... Not talking
teedubbya Offline
#162 Posted: Mon, Sep 22 2014, 2:59 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
no way man.... I have a good friend that's a mag... Not talking



yea me too. he got in a fight with another mag and the local news reported it. It didn't make national news and stuff though. Mag fights rarely do.
jetblasted Offline
#163 Posted: Mon, Sep 22 2014, 3:04 PM EST
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Mag Witch ? ?

Huh
teedubbya Offline
#164 Posted: Mon, Sep 22 2014, 3:05 PM EST
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jetblasted wrote:
Mag Witch ? ?

Huh



I hear he liked mag pie
TMCTLT Offline
#165 Posted: Mon, Sep 22 2014, 3:10 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I hear he liked mag pie



Makes sense...
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#166 Posted: Mon, Sep 22 2014, 3:49 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
It's nice that yourself and Victor can continue to use your comparisons to quote literally MILLIONS up MILLIONS of illegals coming over the Southern Border to an occasional fisherman slipping up and back. No chance of a good clean discussions with folks who refuse to compare apples to Apples and stay On Topic. And imagine that yet another obvious insinuation that this is a RACIAL issue, you guys disgust me.


TMCTLT... I'm simply trying to keep you on track.
There are two problems, and the talking heads like to combine them and suggest that a single solution will fix both, because they want to make political points. But that's false.
Problem 1 - Lots of mexicans. Lots of mexicans want to come in to the US to work. While I suspect all the politicians want this as well, half of them are invested in convincing you they don't want this. Lots of mexicans coming across the border has very specific negative impacts (public resources) as well as a few possible solutions (reduce the available jobs). The most popular right-wing solution is this mythical wall. This will probably reduce the inflow a bit, but really just the lazy and least determined of them.

Problem 2 - Big bad evil terrorists. The common meme being kicked around by the talking heads is "if this many mexicans make it through, it is easy for small groups of determined evil-doers to get across too"... to that I say, so? If we're talking about small groups of evil doers, they can come across into the US literally anywhere. They're small and determined, remember? and don't forget, these are funded terrorists, they don't even need to come across illegally. What's to stop them from just getting a fake passport and flying in? And hell... we don't even need to import terrorists. they can just convince a few locals to join their cause. Bottom line is this, the mythical wall won't even cause terrorists to pause for a second. Hell, I'm willing to bet that right now they don't bother going across the mexican border... that's the one we're looking at already.

If you want your wall, you make the argument based on the illegal immigrants coming from mexico. That's the argument it needs to live or die on. The terrorism argument just doesn't fly...
DrafterX Offline
#167 Posted: Mon, Sep 22 2014, 4:05 PM EST
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drugs..... nobody ever thinks about the drugs..... Not talking
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#168 Posted: Mon, Sep 22 2014, 4:19 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
TMCTLT... I'm simply trying to keep you on track.
There are two problems, and the talking heads like to combine them and suggest that a single solution will fix both, because they want to make political points. But that's false.
Problem 1 - Lots of mexicans. Lots of mexicans want to come in to the US to work. While I suspect all the politicians want this as well, half of them are invested in convincing you they don't want this. Lots of mexicans coming across the border has very specific negative impacts (public resources) as well as a few possible solutions (reduce the available jobs). The most popular right-wing solution is this mythical wall. This will probably reduce the inflow a bit, but really just the lazy and least determined of them.

Problem 2 - Big bad evil terrorists. The common meme being kicked around by the talking heads is "if this many mexicans make it through, it is easy for small groups of determined evil-doers to get across too"... to that I say, so? If we're talking about small groups of evil doers, they can come across into the US literally anywhere. They're small and determined, remember? and don't forget, these are funded terrorists, they don't even need to come across illegally. What's to stop them from just getting a fake passport and flying in? And hell... we don't even need to import terrorists. they can just convince a few locals to join their cause. Bottom line is this, the mythical wall won't even cause terrorists to pause for a second. Hell, I'm willing to bet that right now they don't bother going across the mexican border... that's the one we're looking at already.

If you want your wall, you make the argument based on the illegal immigrants coming from mexico. That's the argument it needs to live or die on. The terrorism argument just doesn't fly...


Three Afghan soldiers who were on a training mission on Cape Cod, were found/captured over 500 miles away at the Niagra Falls Border Crossing . . .

Think
victor809 Offline
#169 Posted: Mon, Sep 22 2014, 4:32 PM EST
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jetblasted wrote:
Three Afghan soldiers who were on a training mission on Cape Cod, were found/captured over 500 miles away at the Niagra Falls Border Crossing . . .

Think


That sort of proves my point...
frankj1 Offline
#170 Posted: Mon, Sep 22 2014, 6:35 PM EST
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jetblasted wrote:
Three Afghan soldiers who were on a training mission on Cape Cod, were found/captured over 500 miles away at the Niagra Falls Border Crossing . . .

Think

they were sneaking OUT of the country?
that's insulting.
teedubbya Offline
#171 Posted: Mon, Sep 22 2014, 6:52 PM EST
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Vic I have to call bs. Didn't most of the 911 hijackers come through Mexico?
victor809 Offline
#172 Posted: Mon, Sep 22 2014, 7:35 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Vic I have to call bs. Didn't most of the 911 hijackers come through Mexico?


Yeah... through Mexico via those fancy flights from London and Malaysia. :)
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#173 Posted: Mon, Sep 22 2014, 7:37 PM EST
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I hope you were joking tW (I think you were)... I mean, some of these guys were registered with the FAA... they didn't run across any border. A quick look at their wikipedia pages shows some were flying in and out of the US to various countries prior to 9/11. They came in from a number of different countries, but I have yet to find one that came over from Mexico (I didn't check them all though).

What no one seems to realize, or simply refuse to acknowledge, is that we have an intentionally porous border. I mean, people travel to the USA from every single country on the planet simply for tourism. And, since we don't have the sophisticated secret police that the USSR used to have, once someone comes into the country they're pretty much free to travel around as much as they want. Some of them simply don't leave. Yep... it's that easy. Sure, that's not going to let thousands in to steal your jobs, but that sure as hell is enough to get a handful of terrorists in.

teedubbya Offline
#174 Posted: Mon, Sep 22 2014, 8:25 PM EST
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I think one ie more came through Canada.

I was just joking.

You are welcome.
DrafterX Offline
#175 Posted: Mon, Sep 22 2014, 8:44 PM EST
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I heard they came over on a banana boat... Mellow
TMCTLT Offline
#176 Posted: Tue, Sep 23 2014, 12:18 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
they were sneaking OUT of the country?
that's insulting.



No Frank....just out of Massachusetts :-"

On a serious note, anyone listen to Rush yesterday, he had a gal call in who she and her husband run a scrap yard and work with a number of towing outfits who periodically bring then vehicles that have been abandoned etc. well as part of their routine they go through and take all junk etc. out before processing them. In a vehicle they were going through yesterday they came across several passport like ID's with ONE individuals face on every one of them as well as papers that showed this person had also worked @ an International Airport or two!!! She went on to say that the individual appeared to be of Muslim origin ( African not MiddleEastern )Her husband being former Marine said they should probably shed some light on this matter, so he called HS ( Homeland security ) and was told....since it Did Not take place on Federal Property that there was NOTHING they could or would do about it. They suggested they contact their local / State LE.....when he responded they lived in a very small town that did not have a LEO office.....he was then told to " try to flag down a local Sheriff!!! UN F'n Believable.....Brick wall

Homeland Security MY F'ng ASS
teedubbya Offline
#177 Posted: Tue, Sep 23 2014, 1:48 PM EST
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Seems like a solid enough source to me. An unidentified caller on the Rush Limbaugh show.


On a less serious note, when I was in high school I made a fake drivers license using the printing and lamination equipment at the school. A buddy dared me to put a picture of Gary Coleman in it rather than my own and attempt to use it. I bought beer from a gas station later that day using it.

Of course I also made one with my own picture that was used until I turned 19.
DrafterX Offline
#178 Posted: Tue, Sep 23 2014, 3:03 PM EST
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Do you get free stuff for being a first time caller into the Rush show..?? Huh
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#179 Posted: Tue, Sep 23 2014, 3:46 PM EST
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so they may not have been terrorists sneaking around but in fact seeking asylum
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