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wheelrite Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Jul 29 2015, 7:35 PM EST
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I'm surprised I haven't seen this topic discussed here.(maybe I missed it)
Abortion is murder,selling body parts is disgusting.To see the callous way it was discussed in the under cover videos saddens me tremendously.
Planned Parenthood killed 90,000 black babies last year...

Thanks Margaret Sanger

I can't wait to hear our resident Libs here defend this...


wheel,,
Brewha Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Jul 29 2015, 7:41 PM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
I'm surprised I haven't seen this topic discussed here.(maybe I missed it)
Abortion is murder,selling body parts is disgusting.To see the callous way it was discussed in the under cover videos saddens me tremendously.
Planned Parenthood killed 90,000 black babies last year...

Thanks Margaret Sanger

I can't wait to hear our resident Libs here defend this...


wheel,,

There is no defending you Wheel.
None.
teedubbya Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Jul 29 2015, 8:01 PM EST
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He's just bad because they sewed the baby legs on to him instead of the big boy legs.
Gene363 Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Jul 29 2015, 8:25 PM EST
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It F'ing wrong, but those that want unlimited abortion will be happy to make jokes and crush their little carcass into the dirt.

Not much chance to change any minds, not even with the most grisly facts.
Burner02 Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Jul 29 2015, 8:34 PM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
It F'ing wrong, but those that want unlimited abortion will be happy to make jokes and crush their little carcass into the dirt.

Not much chance to change any minds, not even with the most grisly facts.




And just think, we all get to pay for it.
Gene363 Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Jul 29 2015, 8:39 PM EST
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True.

This is a video of Gutfeld discussing this topic:

http://videos.videopress.com/YX475rgC/gutfeld_plannedparenthood_final_dvd.mp4
teedubbya Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Jul 29 2015, 8:39 PM EST
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I heard that's how they make lowery salt.
Brewha Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, Jul 29 2015, 8:40 PM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
It F'ing wrong, but those that want unlimited abortion will be happy to make jokes and crush their little carcass into the dirt.

Not much chance to change any minds, not even with the most grisly facts.

Oh, put your religious believes in there place.
And stay out of other people's wombs.
Gene363 Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Jul 29 2015, 8:50 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Oh, put your religious believes in there place.
And stay out of other people's wombs.


And just what "religious believes" would those be?
wheelrite Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Jul 29 2015, 8:53 PM EST
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I find it odd that Planned Parenthood is fighting laws that require women to see an Ultrasound of their babies before making the final decision whether or not to kill the child...

I wonder why ?


wheel,,
elRopo Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Jul 29 2015, 9:04 PM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
I'm surprised I haven't seen this topic discussed here.(maybe I missed it)
Abortion is murder,selling body parts is disgusting.To see the callous way it was discussed in the under cover videos saddens me tremendously.
Planned Parenthood killed 90,000 black babies last year...

Thanks Margaret Sanger

I can't wait to hear our resident Libs here defend this...


wheel,,

I guess "Black lives DON'T matter" afterall.
Brewha Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Jul 29 2015, 9:10 PM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
And just what "religious believes" would those be?

Well, if you hold that the moring after pill, or abortion in the first trimester is "murder", that would be a moral view base in religious belief. Now we may debate the honest point of biology where abortion is a murderous act. But I know that wheel, as a part time Catholic, feels that all abortion is murder. Which typifies a religious belief. And put his nose in side women's wombs (he'll like that analogy).

Let's face it, a woman being denied an abortion at eight weeks, is dealing with someone's religious values. And no other thought out point of reason.
Brewha Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Jul 29 2015, 9:11 PM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
I find it odd that Planned Parenthood is fighting laws that require women to see an Ultrasound of their babies before making the final decision whether or not to kill the child...

I wonder why ?


wheel,,

They are called "rethuglicans".
victor809 Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Jul 29 2015, 9:59 PM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
I find it odd that Planned Parenthood is fighting laws that require women to see an Ultrasound of their babies before making the final decision whether or not to kill the child...

I wonder why ?


wheel,,


Do you want a law passed requiring you get your butthole scoped before being allowed to decide on having a tonsilectomy?
wheelrite Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Jul 29 2015, 10:23 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Do you want a law passed requiring you get your butthole scoped before being allowed to decide on having a tonsilectomy?


Vic,
"IF" I didn't know you just being your regular contrarian self, then I would be mortified that you would equate a Tonsilectome with the mutilation of a baby and the bartering for it's body parts. That is beneath even you...

keeping on being yourself !

wheel,,
ZRX1200 Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Jul 29 2015, 11:09 PM EST
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Ultrasound isn't invasive in any way. The reason Planned Parenthood is fighting it is when the mothers hear the heart beat and see the life within them many change their decision.

There's money and an agenda to be had, so PP ain't down with that.
Gene363 Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Jul 29 2015, 11:21 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Well, if you hold that the moring after pill, or abortion in the first trimester is "murder", that would be a moral view base in religious belief. Now we may debate the honest point of biology where abortion is a murderous act. But I know that wheel, as a part time Catholic, feels that all abortion is murder. Which typifies a religious belief. And put his nose in side women's wombs (he'll like that analogy).

Let's face it, a woman being denied an abortion at eight weeks, is dealing with someone's religious values. And no other thought out point of reason.


Alrighty then, if it's a choice, let's allow a Mother to exercise that choice one minute after birth or one day or a year or two, quoting Hillary, "What difference does it make?"

Most religions frown on murder, going to make that exempt too?

Usually you make pretty cogent arguments, not this time. Even an atheist could see the wrong in what PP is doing. You are trying to make it a religious argument and it's not going to fly. Did you even watch the videos or just knee jerk react, as most hard core abortion promoters?
tonygraz Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 12:11 AM EST
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Oh get over your righteous religious crap. The world is overpopulated and unless you want to raise these unwanted children yourselves and pay the mothers for the time and pain it takes to have them, get off the pulpit. This whole video program has been started as a way to prevent legal abortions and is probably more BS than fact.
victor809 Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 12:36 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Ultrasound isn't invasive in any way. The reason Planned Parenthood is fighting it is when the mothers hear the heart beat and see the life within them many change their decision.

There's money and an agenda to be had, so PP ain't down with that.


You're kidding, right?

You do realize that until the fetus reaches a certain size, an ultrasound is in fact an invasive procedure. I've watched one myself. In fact, in the first 6 weeks it's very unlikely you're going to be able to see anything in a non-transvaginal ultrasound (5-9mm is not big). So if you really want to demand an ultrasound, it'd be only fair to extend the period at which abortions are legal (say 3rd to 20th trimester?), otherwise you're just intentionally shrinking the window in which a woman is allowed to make said choice.
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#20 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 12:39 AM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
Alrighty then, if it's a choice, let's allow a Mother to exercise that choice one minute after birth or one day or a year or two, quoting Hillary, "What difference does it make?"

Most religions frown on murder, going to make that exempt too?

Usually you make pretty cogent arguments, not this time. Even an atheist could see the wrong in what PP is doing. You are trying to make it a religious argument and it's not going to fly. Did you even watch the videos or just knee jerk react, as most hard core abortion promoters?


This is a bit of a specious argument isn't it.

1 - if you want to extend abortions up to 18 years, I'm fine with that. Law doesn't recognize them as an adult yet, then as far as I'm concerned the parent is responsible for their life and/or death.

2 - Why do you care whether "most religions frown on murder"? A religion frowning or not frowning on something is not the basis for law in our country under any conditions. To say otherwise is a sign your opinion on any law is in question.

3 - " Even an atheist could see the wrong in what PP is doing." I'm an atheist and see nothing wrong in what pp is doing. To make an assumption as to what someone else would think is simply dumb.
Gene363 Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 12:44 AM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
Oh get over your righteous religious crap. The world is overpopulated and unless you want to raise these unwanted children yourselves and pay the mothers for the time and pain it takes to have them, get off the pulpit. This whole video program has been started as a way to prevent legal abortions and is probably more BS than fact.


You appear to feel pretty strong about that overpopulation idea. I'd like to suggest a retroactive abortion, if I'm not the first and I doubt I am, consider it a second or whatever number you are up to. You obviously have led a sad and troubled life as you only seem to be happy chewing on ankles and that can't be all that satisfying anyway. I really doubt your convictions are that strong however, so yap on little dog, yap on. Beer
Gene363 Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 1:00 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
This is a bit of a specious argument isn't it.

1 - if you want to extend abortions up to 18 years, I'm fine with that. Law doesn't recognize them as an adult yet, then as far as I'm concerned the parent is responsible for their life and/or death.

2 - Why do you care whether "most religions frown on murder"? A religion frowning or not frowning on something is not the basis for law in our country under any conditions. To say otherwise is a sign your opinion on any law is in question.

3 - " Even an atheist could see the wrong in what PP is doing." I'm an atheist and see nothing wrong in what pp is doing. To make an assumption as to what someone else would think is simply dumb.


Speaking of specious...

You'll have to read posts 8 and 12 to understand the religious reference, or just assume and rant on. The entire 'religious' argument is just tempest in a teapot; there are religious people that think abortion if fine. Oh, and I didn't introduce religion to the discussion.

No assumption was made, you do not represent the minds of all atheists and I said, "an atheist" not all.
TMCTLT Offline
#23 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 2:33 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I heard that's how they make lowery salt.



you really are a sick somma bitch
TMCTLT Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 2:38 AM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
You appear to feel pretty strong about that overpopulation idea. I'd like to suggest a retroactive abortion, if I'm not the first and I doubt I am, consider it a second or whatever number you are up to. You obviously have led a sad and troubled life as you only seem to be happy chewing on ankles and that can't be all that satisfying anyway. I really doubt your convictions are that strong however, so yap on little dog, yap on. Beer



Well said sir Beer


Burner02 wrote:
And just think, we all get to pay for it.



It needs to be defunded that's all there is to it
victor809 Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 2:44 AM EST
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Gene, I agree you were not the first one to bring religious beliefs in to the discussion.

However, someone accusing you of religious beliefs regarding abortion is not opening the door to allowing religion as a barometer for the legality or illegality of murder.

Law is law and religion is religion. Neither should be a basis for influencing the other. Neither is a rational argument when discussing the other.
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#26 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 3:57 AM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
Oh get over your righteous religious crap. The world is overpopulated and unless you want to raise these unwanted children yourselves and pay the mothers for the time and pain it takes to have them, get off the pulpit. This whole video program has been started as a way to prevent legal abortions and is probably more BS than fact.


Wouldn't that be a reason to allow unfettered access to firearms?
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#27 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 6:08 AM EST
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Return to forum without posting.
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#28 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 7:07 AM EST
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What is funnier than a dead baby..?? Huh

















A dead baby in a clown costume..!! Laugh
teedubbya Offline
#29 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 7:57 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
What is funnier than a dead baby..?? Huh

















A dead baby in a clown costume..!! Laugh



LOL

That one actually made me laugh
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#30 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 7:59 AM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
Oh get over your righteous religious crap. The world is overpopulated and unless you want to raise these unwanted children yourselves and pay the mothers for the time and pain it takes to have them, get off the pulpit. This whole video program has been started as a way to prevent legal abortions and is probably more BS than fact.


what can be more anti liberty than ending the lives of the "inconvenient"

bravo :(
teedubbya Offline
#31 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 8:10 AM EST
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meh we go through this conversation periodically (usually started by wheel). It's pretty hard to take either side seriously with all the vitriol, self importance and my religion is better than yours crap.


it's just as constructive in here to debate what is easier to unload, a ton of dead babies or a ton of feathers. We all know it's the dead babies because you can use a pitch fork but some will argue the feathers till the end.
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#32 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 8:11 AM EST
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true... true.... Mellow
banderl Offline
#33 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 8:33 AM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
I'm surprised I haven't seen this topic discussed here.(maybe I missed it)
Abortion is murder,selling body parts is disgusting.To see the callous way it was discussed in the under cover videos saddens me tremendously.
Planned Parenthood killed 90,000 black babies last year...

Thanks Margaret Sanger

I can't wait to hear our resident Libs here defend this...


wheel,,



Good, 90,000 less welfare recipients.
DrafterX Offline
#34 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 8:37 AM EST
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cute little rich girls get abortions too.... but like TW said, we've discussed this before... Mellow
tonygraz Offline
#35 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 9:06 AM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
You appear to feel pretty strong about that overpopulation idea. I'd like to suggest a retroactive abortion, if I'm not the first and I doubt I am, consider it a second or whatever number you are up to. You obviously have led a sad and troubled life as you only seem to be happy chewing on ankles and that can't be all that satisfying anyway. I really doubt your convictions are that strong however, so yap on little dog, yap on. Beer


If you can't argue with facts , get insulting and show how really ignorant you are.
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#36 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 9:08 AM EST
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If someone pisses me off I normally talk about their momma... Mellow
TMCTLT Offline
#37 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 9:30 AM EST
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banderl wrote:
Good, 90,000 less welfare recipients.



Naaaah, we're importing those....you know to keep the numbers up and stuff
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#38 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 9:32 AM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
Wouldn't that be a reason to allow unfettered access to firearms?



Don't confuse him fog
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#39 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 10:09 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I heard that's how they make lowery salt.


If they are jewish babies, would that make it kosher salt?
TMCTLT Offline
#40 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 10:16 AM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
Oh get over your righteous religious crap. The world is overpopulated and unless you want to raise these unwanted children yourselves and pay the mothers for the time and pain it takes to have them, get off the pulpit. This whole video program has been started as a way to prevent legal abortions and is probably more BS than fact.



Here IS the one problem with most if not All of your arguments.....

It's speculation, the Very thing you accuse others of!!!
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#41 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 10:18 AM EST
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Think
Would it be better if they sold the whole aborted baby instead of just parts..?? Parts are prolly more profitable and stuff but if it keeps the peace and all... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#42 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 10:28 AM EST
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
If they are jewish babies, would that make it kosher salt?



Post circumcision yes..... pre - no....... as an aside this also explains kosher calimari
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#43 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 10:35 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Think
Would it be better if they sold the whole aborted baby instead of just parts..?? Parts are prolly more profitable and stuff but if it keeps the peace and all... Mellow


Do they qualify for Amazon Prime free 2-day shipping?
DrafterX Offline
#44 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 10:39 AM EST
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
Do they qualify for Amazon Prime free 2-day shipping?



If they're on Amazon I'm guessing there's a third party involved and I wouldn't trust the freshness and quality... but you can always give it a try... Mellow
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#45 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 10:55 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
If they're on Amazon I'm guessing there's a third party involved and I wouldn't trust the freshness and quality... but you can always give it a try... Mellow


Amazon does have a really good return policy though, so it might be ok.
teedubbya Offline
#46 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 10:55 AM EST
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Amazon fresh maybe? do they sell them like flat chicken or do you actually need a solid cleaver like knife to split them?
DrafterX Offline
#47 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 11:02 AM EST
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I dunno... I've never needed one.... really not sure what I would do with it but it might be a good investment... Mellow
elRopo Offline
#48 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 12:03 PM EST
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They could probably make more money selling live ones ... just sayin
tonygraz Offline
#49 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 12:06 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Here IS the one problem with most if not All of your arguments.....

It's speculation, the Very thing you accuse others of!!!



When I'm not sure, I say so. Others make stuff up and it's looking like this whole thing is made up to get planned parenthood unfunded. Who will pay for that ?
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#50 Posted: Thu, Jul 30 2015, 12:10 PM EST
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#48 true but some can't stand the noise they make when dropped into the boiling water. Thus the frozen market.
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