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DrafterX Offline
#51 Posted: Wed, Aug 12 2015, 10:24 AM EST
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well, now they (FBI) have the server.. we'll see how much of the deleted e-mails they can get off the hard-drives.. if they are the originals... Mellow
Abrignac Offline
#52 Posted: Wed, Aug 12 2015, 10:25 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
wrong smiley William...it chuddah been Liar

I watched an interview with former Sup. Court judge Napolitano who said they'd found within the first 40 e=mails information that gave the exact location of Amb. Stevens in Benghazi....



I'm unaware that at the moment he has an active high level security clearance. As far as I know he is a commentator and doesn't work for the government. That means if he saw them first hand, then he is as guilty as she is presumed to be. On the other hand, if someone leaked it to him it''s 2nd hand info at best. Regardless, it will fan the flames.
DrafterX Offline
#53 Posted: Wed, Aug 12 2015, 10:39 AM EST
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I think it's just what he heard... Mellow
banderl Offline
#54 Posted: Wed, Aug 12 2015, 11:20 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
wrong smiley William...it chuddah been Liar

I watched an interview with former Sup. Court judge Napolitano who said they'd found within the first 40 e=mails information that gave the exact location of Amb. Stevens in Benghazi....



The US supreme Court?
rfenst Offline
#55 Posted: Wed, Aug 12 2015, 11:31 AM EST
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banderl wrote:
The US supreme Court?


No. Probably the New York SC, which is the lowest court of that state.
victor809 Offline
#56 Posted: Wed, Aug 12 2015, 11:33 AM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
I'm unaware that at the moment he has an active high level security clearance. As far as I know he is a commentator and doesn't work for the government. That means if he saw them first hand, then he is as guilty as she is presumed to be. On the other hand, if someone leaked it to him it''s 2nd hand info at best. Regardless, it will fan the flames.


Shh.... no use for common sense in this outrage!
DrafterX Offline
#57 Posted: Wed, Aug 12 2015, 11:48 AM EST
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WHAT DOES IT MATTER. .!! Mad
tonygraz Offline
#58 Posted: Wed, Aug 12 2015, 12:51 PM EST
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It would be alarming if the government were safe from hacking. John Kerry said recently that he writes all his emails under the assumption that the Russians and Chinese are reading them.

At one of my jobs there was a union guy working in the office that was snooping around my desk and papers regularly. I left paperwork out giving him a written warning one time and watched him squirm the next day in anticipation of something that never came.
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#59 Posted: Wed, Aug 12 2015, 12:55 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
John Kerry said recently that he writes all his emails under the assumption that the Russians and Chinese are reading them.
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Right out of Biden's playbook.... He's back peddling on that statement now.... Mellow
TMCTLT Offline
#60 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 7:29 AM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
I'm unaware that at the moment he has an active high level security clearance. As far as I know he is a commentator and doesn't work for the government. That means if he saw them first hand, then he is as guilty as she is presumed to be. On the other hand, if someone leaked it to him it''s 2nd hand info at best. Regardless, it will fan the flames.




Well gosh if your unaware then it must not be true....
I simply was stating what I heard Anthony, are you my personal moderator? She's a lying deceitful POS...who deserves NO cover IMHO

The very fact that she's being investigated for wrongdoing by the FBI should render her NOT FIT to run for office.
TMCTLT Offline
#61 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 7:31 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Shh.... no use for common sense in this outrage!




Common and Decent sense would have dictated NOT using a private server in the first place...d'oh!
Even a dumbass like myself would know better than that, unless I was also CROOKED
TMCTLT Offline
#62 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 7:32 AM EST
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banderl wrote:
The US supreme Court?



Look @ my post and you'll see I clearly said Sup. Court, if it had been SCOTUS I'd have written it that way.
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#63 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 7:47 AM EST
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Sounds like they have someone to take the fall for her already... her assistant removed the 'Top Secret" logo from the e-mails so Hillary didn't know... Mellow
TMCTLT Offline
#64 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 7:50 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Sounds like they have someone to take the fall for her already... her assistant removed the 'Top Secret" logo from the e-mails so Hillary didn't know... Mellow



Welllllll....I'm shocked.....shocked I tell you. No one who knows anything about this thinks she'll face any punishment for this, it will be the equivalent of water off a ducks ass
teedubbya Offline
#65 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 7:53 AM EST
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I'm no hill fan but what if she really did nothing wrong?
DrafterX Offline
#66 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 7:53 AM EST
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it's all those Damn Republicans fault..!! Mad
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#67 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 7:54 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I'm no hill fan but what if she really did nothing wrong?



LOL
teedubbya Offline
#68 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 7:55 AM EST
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Yea she prolly has obammys real birth certificate on there.
DrafterX Offline
#69 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 7:58 AM EST
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Laugh
Just messing with ya.. the whole reason this email thing is happening is because she put herself above the law by using her own server in the first place.. the Top Secret stuff is just icing really.. doesn't change the fact she screwed up... Mellow
TMCTLT Offline
#70 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 8:11 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Laugh
Just messing with ya.. the whole reason this email thing is happening is because she put herself above the law by using her own server in the first place.. the Top Secret stuff is just icing really.. doesn't change the fact she screwed up... Mellow



This ^^^
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#71 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 8:14 AM EST
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Because the laws and rules only apply to the masses (i.e. the sheep). You are either in the circle of truest or you are out. fog
DrafterX Offline
#72 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 8:14 AM EST
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if it's not true it shouldn't have any effect at all... Just ask Romney... Laugh
teedubbya Offline
#73 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 8:22 AM EST
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It's always interesting to me who is guilty until proven innocent and vice versa. It seems to vary depending on who I talk to yet everyone seems so sure of themselves.
teedubbya Offline
#74 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 8:26 AM EST
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As for her server did she have to turn it over (because of wrong doing) or did do it because of political reasons/pressure. And will it ever be enough( like obammys birth certificate)?

And if she broke the law simply turning it over now won't fix that. And something so visible isn't just an above the law thing. Maybe she really didn't break a law.

God I hate Hillary, but that doesn't allow me to suspend truth.
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#75 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 8:27 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
It's always interesting to me who is guilty until proven innocent and vice versa. It seems to vary depending on who I talk to yet everyone seems so sure of themselves.



happens everywhere... remember that time that guy got banned cause he didn't pay for that shirt he never got..?? Huh
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#76 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 8:29 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
As for her server did she have to turn it over (because of wrong doing) or did do it because of political reasons/pressure. And will it ever be enough( like obammys birth certificate)?

And if she broke the law simply turning it over now won't fix that. And something so visible isn't just an above the law thing. Maybe she really didn't break a law.

God I hate Hillary, but that doesn't allow me to suspend truth.



well, how does she explain being told not use it and then keep using it anyway..?? She knew the law and chose to ignore it.. kinda hard to explain that away... Mellow
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#77 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 8:34 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
It's always interesting to me who is guilty until proven innocent and vice versa. It seems to vary depending on who I talk to yet everyone seems so sure of themselves.



TW, I think it's more the track record of the high and mighty ( even when proof exists ie: Lois Lerner ) these people enjoy a separate set of laws than we the Sheep as noted above. They actually get away with using " fall guys " or NOTHING @ all comes from it. I admit my disdain for the woman sometimes clouds my judgement
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#78 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 8:37 AM EST
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She is a polarizing person. She is loved and hated with very little middle ground.
teedubbya Offline
#79 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 8:38 AM EST
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Bs. It's people staking their ground and the other side is wrong. There is no way anyone could convince you otherwise regardless of the truth. And it is both sides acting that way. It's really really dumb.
teedubbya Offline
#80 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 8:39 AM EST
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And I missed your last sentence which says something similar.
teedubbya Offline
#81 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 8:40 AM EST
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I'm in the hate hill dig side. But I also know if you latch on to the absurd it allows them to discount you when you are not bring absurd.

The birthers very well could be the reason obammy care and other things actually got passed.
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#82 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 8:43 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:


The birthers very well could be the reason obammy care and other things actually got passed.



that was all payoffs and bribes... or so I heard... Mellow
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#83 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 8:44 AM EST
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Let's have a speedy, but thorough, investigation and let the chips fall where they may. I suspect skullduggery on her part, but there is a lot of truth to what Paul said above about there being different rules for those in higher positions - regardless of party affiliation.

At the very least, it is beginning to erode her base of support.
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#84 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 8:49 AM EST
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It is possible there was a loophole and we simply don't like it. While she deserves the political fall out perhaps she doesn't deserve jail? And maybe she didn't kill it allow anyone to be killed?
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#85 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 8:51 AM EST
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As for the birthers it's amazing that folks don't understand that when you make absurd accusations you lose credibility and it's largely lost when occasionally you are actually right.

Anyone that believed the birthers crap needs to take a long look at themselves.
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#86 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 8:53 AM EST
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Think
So, Hillary is innocent because Obama didn't have to produce a valid birth certificate... ok.. I can buy that... Unsure
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#87 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 9:01 AM EST
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Exactly.

It's just interesting to me that people in here actually think they understand the law better than those enforcing it or living it and assume the reason it isn't applied is privelage.

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#88 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 9:05 AM EST
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It happens... my Dad was a cop... I know it works... Mellow
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#89 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 9:14 AM EST
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I know it's Foxnews but it's brief... prolly fabricated and stuff..

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/08/13/truth-about-hillary-clintons-email-server-and-law.html?intcmp=hpbt1

Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#90 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 9:29 AM EST
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Can't link to it right now ..... Later

Don't mistake anything I say as there is no possibility a law was broken and she won't end up in the pokie. I really don't know. And sooner or later if you make wild accusations one could be true. The problem is knowing what to take seriously and what not to. Birthers type folks make it easier to dismiss everything..... Even legitimate stuff.
DrafterX Offline
#91 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 10:09 AM EST
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of course automatically dismissing someone's opinion because it once differed from yours may not be the right either... Know what I'm sayin.. Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#92 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 10:30 AM EST
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It isn't right, but it happens. That's why the boy that cried wolf is bogus and has no merit.

Would you consider the birthers thing a difference in opinion?
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#93 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 10:35 AM EST
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you could make it one I guess... some wanted proof, others didn't need it.. whether or not the proof existed the whole thing was used as a tool to divide... and it worked... I guess that what's bothered me. Obama could have squashed the whole thing right up front and didn't.. and besides, WHAT DOES IT MATTER AT THIS POINT..!! Mad
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#94 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 10:41 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Look @ my post and you'll see I clearly said Sup. Court, if it had been SCOTUS I'd have written it that way.



Sup. court, Superior Court/Supreme Court, IDK. I'm not a mind reader.
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#95 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 10:43 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Yea she prolly has obammys real birth certificate on there.



Oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!
teedubbya Offline
#96 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 10:48 AM EST
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Its still not squashed to some. Why feed the beast.

It doesn't matter other than it makes it hard to take folks seriously after that and dilutes the fact that on other things they may have merit. That's all.

It makes you work to take them seriously on other things.
DrafterX Offline
#97 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 10:52 AM EST
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Divide and conquer.... or so I've heard... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#98 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 10:53 AM EST
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True true
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#99 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 1:16 PM EST
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I wonder what Hillary is having for lunch... Think Think
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#100 Posted: Thu, Aug 13 2015, 1:36 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I wonder what Hillary is having for lunch... Think Think


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