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In my state you need a permit to carry and the gun must not be visible.

Again, not apprehensice of firearms, apprehensive of someone strolling down my street with a visible and loaded assault rifle. Unless there's a zombie apocalypse, then game on.

I'm not sure I've seen a guy walking down the street with a visible holstered weapon, but it's probable I have and took no notice. The crux of the later posts, and even that first one, was more the assault weapons. Sorry, could have been clearer or not muddies the water from the start.

I guess it depends on where you live

It is pretty commonplace in the Pittsburgh area

Not me personally (at least not usually) but I like to see it

Makes me feel just a touch safer

I don't think we should restrict people's ability to carry weapons, but to say it makes you feel safer seems odd.

Unless you know the person carrying a weapon, you have no idea what they may or may not do with it, nor do you know the skill and capability with which they'd wield said weapon.

Just because someone is carrying a gun doesn't mean they have your best interests in mind.

I carry concealed daily. I'm not proud of it or embarrassed by it - I simply have too much to lose in a sea of people who put no value on human life.

In all my years living in cities I have never seen a gang banger tatted up thug with a nice leather holster and a 1911 cocked and locked. If your experience is different pray tell.

Open carriers aren't here to play hero and save the world. They exercise their rights and, Heaven forbid, should the ish hit the fan, it is nice to op know someone else around me at least has the equipment needed to react with deadly force. Regardless of their "skills and capabilities," I'll take a 1% chance of survival over a 0% chance any day.

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Underwood 9mm 147gr +p xtp >1125 fps

I'm not talking about you open carrying yourself. Get on with your bad self.

One doesn't need to be a "tatted up thug" to be a threat. People with nice leather holsters can decide to shoot you as well. Or, people with nice leather holsters can decide the "tatted up thug" behind you is a threat and may not be the best shot.

You have zero guarantee of capability from other gun owners. To feel safer around them just because they have the type of equipment you think means they have the same view of the world as you... that seems short sighted.

Don't get me wrong, if someone is sitting around with a gun in a holster, I don't feel particularly unsafe. I just don't see that as a mark of additional safety. I don't trust them to resolve a situation to my benefit any more than an unarmed person would.

One last thing

Your Wild West scenario in the opening of your statement simply doesn't play out in real life

At least not with any statistical significance, regardless of its popularities on blogs and in movies

Can we feed them if we pay extra?

I've had a gun pointed at me three times.... 2 times by cops tho...

I think movie theatre shooting statistics blow your claim out of the water. Once again, Wild West scenarios aside (and this is the last time I'll say it as the kids are in bed and I'm tired), when and evil person sets out to murder me I'll take my chances with and amateur enthusiast trying to fight back vs the scenario you seem to portray as less dangerous where your brains are splattered in the floor.

No one will make you carry a gun so don't worry about it too much. But I can assure you you have been around them way more than you think and I can only assume that every instance has involved someone correctly assessing the threats or lack thereof and keeping their **** together. You just didn't know it.

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"The most polite company, is a room full of armed men." - Eliza Frances Andrews, 1865

#77 jet didn't she also extol the virtues of the KKK and embrace/celebrate their efforts for keeping the uppity negros in their place?

She was also a self proclaimed socialist. The quote is interesting though given the carnage of the Wild West.

while i cannot comment on the carnage or lackthereof in the wild west

i wonder if it were due to guns or due to the fact that it had no shortage of degenerates and criminals

But you must admit guns were everywhere and good behavior often was not there seems to be no correlation either way despite what the bigoted socialist claimed.

Of course it does not happen here AND it did not happen there!!!! You chose to take it out of context from some law abiding citizens giving safe cover for a reporter who'd been there before and knew how dangerous it was to be there to a guy pumping gas next to you....

From my posts, I don't think anyone could make the case that I am nothing if not against gun laws. With that said, I'm humored by the arguments of the open carry crowd. Theater shooting statistics? If one were to compile such stats, I'm sure the only way the % of movie goers shot to the % of all movie goers would even register is if one carried the results to at least 6 significant digits.

As for a cocked and locked 1911 being open carried in a nice leather holster, that's a nostalgic show piece. But in my opinion, not the most practical option. I'd rather have my ugly black Glock 23 with a 14 rounds than an 8 shot. As far as the leather holster is concerned, they are nice to look at, but I like my ugly black Kydex holster as it's much smoother to draw from. I don't really care how it looks, I'm not trying to impress anyone. In fact I wear my shirts a little loose so the cover my firearm nicely without showing a bulge.

As far as accuracy is concerned, I had the pleasure to shoot with some of them. A few that I shot with were impressive. One or two out shot me. Some were decent shooters who could put all of their rounds inside at least the outside ring of a standard target , but their groups were not real desirable. Some even missed the entire target more times than they hit it. But, what I found most troubling was that the better the shooter, the more refrained their talk of open carry. It was the poorest of shooters that talked the loudest of their God given right to open carry.

Of course your results may be different than mine.

If I get shot in a theater I'm going straight to the store to buy a lotto ticket...

WHAT DOES IT MATTER..!!

And you assume way too much...

Go back and re-read his comparison ( a guy with an AK47 next to him @ the filling station ) to these guys giving a reporter cover in Ferguson, get over your yourself already.

Why didn't they use her to staff the brothel? Was she butt ugly?

No you wait, are you telling me that because some F'n mental cases shot up theaters and " other crazy **** " that we should LUMP them in with these guys giving a reporter cover in a very volatile situation????? Did they shoot anyone? NO!!!!! I also carry legally Shaun and yes we'd both be " outgunned " there's a huge difference in sick people shooting up theaters and this case sorry.