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Uncle Ben Is A Loony Liar!
ZRX1200 Offline
#51 Posted:
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Why?
tonygraz Offline
#52 Posted:
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Aside from having trouble with the truth and being an egomaniac, the guy has some crazy ideas (post#1) and seems to be ignorant or "not up to speed" on just about everything.
He might be good at a herf for telling lies but would probably ask why not light the cigars in the middle ?
99cobra2881 Offline
#53 Posted:
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tonygraz wrote:
Aside from having trouble with the truth and being an egomaniac, the guy has some crazy ideas (post#1) and seems to be ignorant or "not up to speed" on just about everything.
He might be good at a herf for telling lies but would probably ask why not light the cigars in the middle ?


That's still better than us herfing together and having to all share the government issued free cigar we got from Bernie.
teddyballgame Offline
#54 Posted:
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tonygraz wrote:
Aside from having trouble with the truth and being an egomaniac, the guy has some crazy ideas (post#1) and seems to be ignorant or "not up to speed" on just about everything.
He might be good at a herf for telling lies but would probably ask why not light the cigars in the middle ?



Sometimes you don't have enough time to smoke a 7'' cigar and if that is all you have, then light it in the middle and when the ash breaks it, then give that half to your neighbor.


I am with you that he may not have the pyramid reasoning down pat, but I don't think that being wrong on the reasoning for pyramids 5000-10000 yrs ago is going to really have much impact on current foreign affairs.

As a side note, nobody's ego is going to even approach Hillary's EGO.

$500,000 per screech?
Does the Battle Axis of Evil really have that much worth in her speeches?
tonygraz Offline
#55 Posted:
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teddyballgame wrote:
Sometimes you don't have enough time to smoke a 7'' cigar and if that is all you have, then light it in the middle and when the ash breaks it, then give that half to your neighbor....


Sounds like communism.
tamapatom Offline
#56 Posted:
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tonygraz wrote:
Sounds like communism.

It depends....are they equal halves?
tonygraz Offline
#57 Posted:
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They never are, and that usually leads to violence.
victor809 Offline
#58 Posted:
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teddyballgame wrote:


As a side note, nobody's ego is going to even approach Hillary's EGO.

$500,000 per screech?
Does the Battle Axis of Evil really have that much worth in her speeches?


If the market is willing to bear a price of $500k per speech, who are you to dictate it is too high? Are you some sort of communist looking to fix the value of speeches?

If you're gonna keep that communist crap up you can just go back to soviet russia....
teddyballgame Offline
#59 Posted:
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Who said anything about dictating prices?

I don't think that is really free market system at work, do you?
Seems like crony capitalism at work.

There is a quid pro quo going on with these exorbitant amounts.
tonygraz Offline
#60 Posted:
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According to the New York Times, Bill Clinton earns on average about $250,000 per speech and Hillary Clinton about $235,000. George W. Bush has earned about $ 30 million in the past 2 years. Many speeches are booked through a group/company called the Washington Speech Bureau. If you want to complain about speech charges, why not bring up W's speech to wounded veterans for $ 100k in2012.
tamapatom Offline
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Everybody must get stoned.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Carson was on the radio earlier, he never denied his violent past it's what pushed him to change his life. The person he tried (but didn't) to stab was a relative who doesn't want to be involved in the schit show. He never said he even applied to W.P. he said that people from W.P. told him that they could get him accepted.

What gets me, I FULLY believe he never had any intention of being anything but a doctor. So why would W.P. be important to him.

I am not a Carson supporter, but I'm not gonna take part in a lynch mob when all this CRAP is from Jr high (violence) and apparently the Politico not understanding that getting into W.P. usually requires athletic & academic standards and a recommendation. Which IF his story IS true is very much a recommendation.




Agreed.

No smoking gun anywhere. He has spent a very large portion of his life in public and the worst 'lies' they can find are some out of context embellishments? I'm no Carson fan, either, but he's going to end up gaining much more from this silliness than he loses.
victor809 Offline
#63 Posted:
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TBG... If some groups are paying whatever price she is asking for her speeches, then the market can bear her prices. That's simple capitalism.

If you believe you should have some say in whatever price she is demanding (which you clearly implied by claiming the price was too high and based on her ego) then you are trying to influence the free market, comrade teddy.

And lo and behold, the price you quoted wasn't even accurate nor out of line for other famous politicians.... So you really must hate capitalism. Go back to Soviet Russia comrade!
teddyballgame Offline
#64 Posted:
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nope. Capitalism good, socialism, communism, statism bad for teddy.

That was the AVERAGE listed for the Clinton's, so there were times that speeches were in the $500000 range:

2003 -- Japan, $500,000 Sakura Asset Management (Japanese finance corporation) (A note: This speech was canceled, but the fee went to Clinton’s presidential library foundation);
2008 -- California, $500,000, Power Within (life coach Anthony Robbins’ brand);
2010 -- Russia, $500,000, Renaissance Capital (Russian finance corporation);
2010 -- United Arab Emirates, $500,000, Novo Nordisk (Danish pharmaceutical company);
2011 -- Nigeria, $700,000, THISDAY (newspaper);
2011 -- Austria, $500,000, Center for Global Dialogue and Cooperation (Austrian nongovernmental organization);
2011 -- Netherlands, $600,000, Achmea (Dutch finance corporation);
2011 -- China, $550,000, Huatuo CEO Forum (business conference);
2011 -- United Arab Emirates, $500,000, Abu Dhabi Global Environmental Data Initiative (international environmental information organization);
2011 -- Hong Kong, $750,000, Ericsson (Swedish multinational communications technology company);
2012 -- Nigeria, $700,000, THISDAY (newspaper);
2012 -- Austria, $500,000, Center for Global Dialogue and Cooperation (Austrian nongovernmental organization);
2012 -- Italy, $500,000, Technogym (fitness equipment manufacturer).

11 of these came after his Battle Axis of Evil was in her office.- so I was lumping Mr. "Clit"on with his "wife", so my bad, I am sure she is worth $300,000 per appearance.

Don't put words in my mouth vic, I just asked if the speeches were "worth" that amount carbon pollution this bitty is spouting- or her hubby for that matter. My question is a valid one, but no where did I say "limit speech pay"- Kook

Bill made $104 Mil in speaking fees between 2001 and 2012- half from outside the country.

Hiilary:

eBay shilled out $315,000 for a speech that last 20 minutes,
Cisco paid $325,000 for Clinton to sit onstage with the company's CEO.
Salesforce.com brought Clinton back for multiple events.

I'm sure those groups received good insight from her and nothing else in return, so yes, if that is so, then that is free market capitalism at its finest- I'm all for it.
Not Crony capitalism, where the company is going to be somehow "rewarded" or "taken care of" some how.

She would never do that.
teddyballgame Offline
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...but lets get back to Carson, making the media look silly with their "take down" effort
DrMaddVibe Offline
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teddyballgame wrote:
...but lets get back to Carson, making the media look silly with their "take down" effort



Seriously?

He looks and sounds desperate.
banderl Offline
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teddyballgame wrote:
...but lets get back to Carson, making the media look silly with their "take down" effort



Yes, let's.
http://verysmartbrothas.com/this-painting-of-ben-carson-and-jesus-in-ben-carsons-home-is-the-blackest-thing-ive-ever-seen-this-week/

Yes that is a black, very Klingon looking Jesus in that picture.
tonygraz Offline
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He also said the founding fathers had no political experience- ignorance or wishful thinking ? I wonder if he ever left the hospital - maybe he couldn't find the door.
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teddyballgame wrote:


Don't put words in my mouth vic, I just asked if the speeches were "worth" that amount carbon pollution this bitty is spouting- or her hubby for that matter. My question is a valid one, but no where did I say "limit speech pay"- Kook

....

I'm sure those groups received good insight from her and nothing else in return, so yes, if that is so, then that is free market capitalism at its finest- I'm all for it.
Not Crony capitalism, where the company is going to be somehow "rewarded" or "taken care of" some how.

She would never do that.



You're whining about the amount of money she charges to speak.

Why?

I mean, when I hear people whine about the amount of money a CEO earns, it's to suggest laws that would cap CEO pay. When I hear people whine about tenured professors, or career politicians, it's to suggest abolishing tenure or creating term limits.

so what are you trying to achieve by whining about the amount of money she asks for speaking, and which other free individuals agree to pay? Is it to try to prevent this free transaction, or is it simply to whine?

If you want to prevent a free transaction, then you're simply against capitalism and I have no choice but to ask you whether your underwear is pink like your pinko economic leaning....

If you're just whining because you think its unfair that someone is able to demand lots of money to speak and you can't, then I have no choice but to ask you whether you're wearing pretty pink panties like a woman.

(no offense to women intended)
pdxstogieman Offline
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teddyballgame wrote:
You are such a demmy drone.

Clarence Thomas a "token" to you? Your slavery/segregationist/KKK party tried to run him out, because he "wasn't the right type of black man." So if a black man thinks for himself and decides he is a conservative, your party calls him "Uncle Tom" or a black man that "turns his back on his own." So, keep the black man as unthinking sheep that just vote "D" on the ballot, no matter what.

THAT is racist

Guy is brilliant and your side tries to "Bork" him. Fake testimony by Anita Hill.. where was all the NAACP leaders to back him on frivolous attacks?

You get 90% of the black vote and you have how many Demmy Senators that are black? 1%? Hypocrite.

You elect a man, because he is black. Doesn't matter that he is a socialist "rules for radicals" follower. Or that he attended a church for 20 years and got married by a "preacher" that hates America and Jews. And it certainly doesn't matter the abuses of his office he carries out. Making laws by fiat, ignoring parts of existing laws he doesn't like, using IRS to target citizens...The list is too long to go into here.

Your party is constantly brining up race and genitalia, because your ideas SUCK and you have no other play book other than, "Repubs. are racist, women haters, old people killers." You probably believe that women actually make 77% of what males do for the same job.

There is not one government program that Pelosi for brains thinks can be cut or ended all together (except the military).
So you continue to blow up the debt and ignore the actuaries for medicare and social security.

The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other peoples money. -Maggy Thatcher

How does it feel to belong to an old , revisionist socialist/communist/statists party komrad?


Let it all out. You're blocking your true feelings Captain Flagg.
pdxstogieman Offline
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rfenst wrote:
6 malpractice suits for a neurosurgeon means nothing.


He's a doctor AND he plays one on TV!
teddyballgame Offline
#72 Posted:
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Seems DrMadVibe owes the "real'' Doctor an apology:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3357453/posts



and for all those pimping "he has 6 malpractice suits, so he sucks":


http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/malpractice-101-which-doctors-get-sued-most/11/

"almost one in five neurosurgeons risk malpractice, with 19.09 percent facing a claim each year."
DrMaddVibe Offline
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA_5b1-Ax8I

I'm sorry...










































































































































that Teddyballgag is a kool-aid drinking idiot savant.
teddyballgame Offline
#74 Posted:
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That's about what I expect from you, you hack.

Running with a hit job website story like Politico and then pretending it is truth. The hack writer is a liberal leftie that has been exposed and you just carry the water.

When you pull your head out of where the sun don't shine, maybe you will be taken seriously.

Fool.
riverdog Offline
#75 Posted:
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Sunk in a ditch, he called you the "F" word.
Speyside Offline
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We may or may not agree with Doc's opinions. But most if not all take him seriously here. You on the other hand, I find hard to take seriously since the only opinion you value seems to be your own. You have disparaged many here, including those who hold similar values. I would think after a while you would end the constant vitriol.
Gene363 Offline
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MACS wrote:
^^Don't offer a counter argument, just make off-color remarks.

You guys are comical, but I'm laughing at you.


And you're not the only one. Not talking
banderl Offline
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Speyside wrote:
We may or may not agree with Doc's opinions. But most if not all take him seriously here. You on the other hand, I find hard to take seriously since the only opinion you value seems to be your own. You have disparaged many here, including those who hold similar values. I would think after a while you would end the constant vitriol.



^^^^^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^^^^


Most normal people come here and get to know the lay of the land before starting any crap.
TBG barges in, starts spouting garbage and insults basically everyone here.
teddyballgame Offline
#79 Posted:
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please,

I am defending a hit on Carson that was jumped on my DMV and he acts like it is gospel.

That is not my opinion, but fact.
tonygraz Offline
#80 Posted:
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He's got a knife and a hammer, let him defend himself.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#81 Posted:
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Even Chris Wallace is all: I can't even with you, Ben Carson.

The "Fox News Sunday" host challenged the 2016 presidential candidate on some of his most inflammatory remarks, including Carson's comparing the Obama administration to Hitler's Germany.

"I want to ask you about some remarks you've made that you say that you stand by," Wallace said. "You have compared our government today to Nazi Germany. Do you really believe that?"

"Well, a lot of people like to say that," Carson responded. "But what I said is that in Nazi Germany, most of those people didn't believe in what Hitler was doing, but did they say anything? They did not. That's what allowed people to progress to that point. We need to be willing to stand up and speak up for what we believe."

Wallace jumped in: "But people oppose Barack Obama all the time!"

The Fox News host also brought up Carson's claim that Obamacare is the worst thing to happen to the country since slavery.

"Well, you have to understand what I'm talking about," Carson explained. "You know, Obamacare fundamentally changes the relationship between the people and the government. The government is supposed to respond to the will of the people. Not dictate to the people what they are doing. And with this program, we're allowing that whole paradigm to be switched around."

You do you, Ben Carson. You do you.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/10/chris-wallace-ben-carson-fox-news-sunday_n_7252994.html


Oh...but I'm making all of this up!

I'm a Democratic Party double secret operative.Frying pan Frying pan Frying pan

I've been accused of a lot of things...but...carrying the water for the DNC???

Not talking Not talking Not talking


No...Teddyballgag is a liar.Liar
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tonygraz wrote:
He's got a knife and a hammer, let him defend himself.




teach a man to hit his knife with a hammer and he'll have a broken knife... Mellow
fishinguitarman Offline
#83 Posted:
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Is this the guys on the rice box?
banderl Offline
#84 Posted:
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fishinguitarman wrote:
Is this the guys on the rice box?



Yes, Aunt Jemimah's husband.
fishinguitarman Offline
#85 Posted:
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banderl wrote:
Yes, Aunt Jemimah's husband.




Thought so!
teddyballgame Offline
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I said carry the water for that politico hack writer. I tire of republicans turning on our own guys with stories like this, without bothering to check on it.

What Carson is saying is not untrue. Obviously no gas chamber type stuff is going on, but people afraid to say anything against Obama, because you are accused of being racist.
The IRS has been used to target individuals- not exactly SS knocking at your door, but an intimidation tactic nonetheless. Closing down coal mines via the EPA because they don't jibe with his world view.
So he is using interments of government to punish those that don't tow the line.

You have a hate on for Carson, so be it.

The congress, who are supposed to represent the people, do NOT oppose Obama all the time. Obama has had a total of 6 vetoes? That means what he is signing is being passed because the establishment republicans cave, because as they keep saying- he will just veto what we pass. I didn't realize that was the test.

Obamacare, which wasn't passed through "normal procedure", did fundamentally alter the relationship between the government and the citizen and it should alarm everyone. He's packed the bureaucracy and the courts with leftists, so even if a conservative gets in there, these government departments will undermine a conservative administration.
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teddyballgame wrote:
... but people afraid to say anything against Obama, because you are accused of being racist.


.... afraid to say anything against obama?

... what country have you been living in the past 7 years? The republican party has done nothing but whine about obama. their platform at times has literally been "I'm going to oppose obama at every step" apparently not caring if that step even included rescuing puppies and kittens.

Quote:

The congress, who are supposed to represent the people, do NOT oppose Obama all the time.


So, your assessment is that a president, elected by a majority, should be opposed ALL THE TIME by congress, because they are supposed to represent the people.... who elected the president by a majority.

You just aren't making sense...
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#88 Posted:
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actually, the majority vote has not been enough to determine the presidency recently. I'm sure someone will google this, but I believe I read recently that the GOP lost 4 of the last 5 popular votes for president.
banderl Offline
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5 of 6
2 Clinton
1 Gore
2 Obama
frankj1 Offline
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I really knew that it was more, just looking for someone else to verify.

well then teddy, you are getting your wish. Congress is echoing the will of the people.

as you said:The congress, who are supposed to represent the people...
DrMaddVibe Offline
#91 Posted:
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Is there anyone here at CBid that supports this assclown?

I'm talking about Carson..not Teddyballgag...I already know about him.

frankj1 Offline
#92 Posted:
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I know he is kind of new, but I find it entertaining that he thinks you are a libtard!

DrMaddVibe Offline
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I find it rather insulting.

I mean I have had a conversion where I don't trust any party and the guys I tend to vote for NEVER win...oh well...I look out for the better of the country. I'm just sick and tired of holding my nose and voting for the less stinky pile of ****. More often it's the Dems...but in this cycle...it's ALL GOP...they ALL suck open ass. There isn't one of them that I can back.





UNLESS...















Hillary gets the nom.









Then it's **** it time and I'll do what I have to to make sure that beast and her degenerate husband doesn't see the view behind the Resolute Desk ever again!
tailgater Offline
#94 Posted:
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So you won't be her "intern"?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#95 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
So you won't be her "intern"?



Even though I was invited to the 1st Inaugural Ball...long story and my parents...lifelong DNC supporters...have it framed...HELLZ NO...I knew back then what a shady person he was. Time hasn't made me fonder either.
frankj1 Offline
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tailgater wrote:
So you won't be her "intern"?

he could supply the cigar...
DrMaddVibe Offline
#97 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
he could supply the cigar...


So he could stick it up some chubby cow's vag?


Uh...no.


There was a box that some of us donated cigars to troops...I was lucky enough to be in it...it was the guys that pulled Saddam out of that spider hole celebrating with them...the pick was posted here...that's what a cigar is...enjoyment...not some substitute pen is.
frankj1 Offline
#98 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
So he could stick it up some chubby cow's vag?


Uh...no.


There was a box that some of us donated cigars to troops...I was lucky enough to be in it...it was the guys that pulled Saddam out of that spider hole celebrating with them...the pick was posted here...that's what a cigar is...enjoyment...not some substitute pen is.

I can see you're in no mood for my ironic humor...but your story is so much better!
teddyballgame Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
I find it rather insulting.

I mean I have had a conversion where I don't trust any party and the guys I tend to vote for NEVER win...oh well...I look out for the better of the country. I'm just sick and tired of holding my nose and voting for the less stinky pile of ****. More often it's the Dems...but in this cycle...it's ALL GOP...they ALL suck open ass. There isn't one of them that I can back.



Well, you aren't conservative, because the republicans have a good few that could take it to Hillary in this cycle.
Are you libertarian?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#100 Posted:
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teddyballgame wrote:
Well, you aren't conservative, because the republicans have a good few that could take it to Hillary in this cycle.
Are you libertarian?



No they don't.

They have a bunch of pretenders. A bunch that will buckle at the waist the first chance they get to bend over and take it.

Hillary is only beatable by Trump and Sanders. See it for what it is. It's just delusional folly to think otherwise. Other than that, she'd mop the floor with all of these pseudo conservatives and Paul who fancies himself like his dad...except his dad stood for something and had a record of it. An unwavering record.

Cruz, Christie, Rubio, Carson...they're all insane or think we've forgotten all the stupid crap they've said or done.
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