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frankj1 Offline
#51 Posted:
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banderl wrote:
I don't understand, what was odd about it?

well, I guess it does tie into the op. It is college after all.
tamapatom Offline
#52 Posted:
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banderl wrote:
The handle end.
Should I email you the pics?

So it was an outboard then....... running on natural gas, no doubt. Hope it wasn't a big Johnson.
victor809 Offline
#53 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
I would call it unacceptable a nd dangerous. What is really being protested? As far as I have read a single drunk uttering racial slurs and 1 swastika. How does this post a danger to anyone? Yet the university is willing to eliminate freedom of speech. So it is speech and symbology that is offensive, so what? Freedom of speech is protected by the first amendment. Denying freedom of speech is a dangerous slippery slope that cannot be tolerated.


I don't really understand what the students are protesting. I honestly don't think they have a good idea what they are trying to achieve through their protesting. But the university hasn't eliminated freedom of speech. They may, as a result of the protests, in which case they might be criticized depending on the decisions/circumstances.

The professor who restricted the freedom of the press was clearly being rebuked by the university and is no longer there.


Speyside Offline
#54 Posted:
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The university police did a mass email to students asking to report anyone who said anything hurtful/hateful so the university can take disciplinary action. I would call this attempting to limit free speech.
tamapatom Offline
#55 Posted:
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Maybe they can issue sweaters to students with your own special letter or symbol so people who do not share your view can avoid being near you.
Speyside Offline
#56 Posted:
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Like a red A?
DrafterX Offline
#57 Posted:
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Posts: 98,560
Can't we all just, get along..?? Huh
TMCTLT Offline
#58 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
I don't really understand what the students are protesting. I honestly don't think they have a good idea what they are trying to achieve through their protesting. But the university hasn't eliminated freedom of speech. They may, as a result of the protests, in which case they might be criticized depending on the decisions/circumstances.

The professor who restricted the freedom of the press was clearly being rebuked by the university and is no longer there.






I haven't read anything that would support the University firing her, it is my understanding that she resigned her " honorary position " but continues to retain her teaching position. Link to her firing?? Both of those broads should lose their jobs and be kept from teaching on ANY campus going forward.


The latest from the crazies running the " Institution"


http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/11/mizzou-protesters-now-segregating-their-members-by-race/
tamapatom Offline
#59 Posted:
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They are getting everything they want and are rapidly approaching the point of "what do we do now?" It either fizzles out due to boredom or we get some violence to spice things up.
banderl Offline
#60 Posted:
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Knowledge is good!
DrafterX Offline
#61 Posted:
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Yes, knowing if I get my feelings hurt I can round up a few friends and completely destroy someone who had nothing to do with it's career... Mellow

Think
TMCTLT Offline
#62 Posted:
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Posts: 19,733
tamapatom wrote:
They are getting everything they want and are rapidly approaching the point of "what do we do now?" It either fizzles out due to boredom or we get some violence to spice things up.




Some of the very same people who are part of BLM and were involved in protests in Ferguson / Baltimore etc. are also @ Mizzou....We'll see if this plays out any differently. Ahhhh Professional Protestors, what a career move!!! Although it didn't hurt Obummers career ANY
banderl Offline
#63 Posted:
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TMCTLT wrote:
Some of the very same people who are part of BLM and were involved in protests in Ferguson / Baltimore etc. are also @ Mizzou....We'll see if this plays out any differently. Ahhhh Professional Protestors, what a career move!!! Although it didn't hurt Obummers career ANY



So the Kenyan born muslim was a professional protester?
Interesting.
DrafterX Offline
#64 Posted:
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more of an organizer I think... he passed out torches and pitchforks and stuff... Mellow
banderl Offline
#65 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
more of an organizer I think... he passed out torches and pitchforks and stuff... Mellow



Was HockeyDad his supplier?
ZRX1200 Offline
#66 Posted:
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Victor you didn't catch what I meant at all.


Damn internet.
tailgater Offline
#67 Posted:
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tonygraz wrote:
Keep trying, you may find something yet.


Oh No You Didn't just pull the "I know you are but what am I?" routine.
Did you?


tailgater Offline
#68 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
I don't really understand what the students are protesting. I honestly don't think they have a good idea what they are trying to achieve through their protesting. But the university hasn't eliminated freedom of speech. They may, as a result of the protests, in which case they might be criticized depending on the decisions/circumstances.

The professor who restricted the freedom of the press was clearly being rebuked by the university and is no longer there.




Agreed.

Are you saying that she was fired?
I hadn't heard that.
BuckyB93 Offline
#69 Posted:
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She resigned her courtesy post in the journalism department but remains an assistant professor communications department.

http://news.yahoo.com/mizzou-professor-some-muscle-protests-resigns-143632236.html#



Take a look at her resume and tell me that these three words don't pop in your head: What the fark?

https://communication.missouri.edu/sites/default/files/cv/click_cv_september_2013_for_web.pdf
99cobra2881 Offline
#70 Posted:
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Here's a special little snowflake that just met the real world on Neil Cavuto.

http://youtu.be/Pu1y5g1O3-Y
victor809 Offline
#71 Posted:
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You're correct TMC, I had scanned the CBS article which said the journalism school was reviewing whether to eliminate her and she resigned before they could come to that decision. ... To me that means they told her they were going to get rid of her if she didn't voluntarily leave.

I'm not sure I understand her position in the communication school and how that relates to U Missouri, as every article I've read has stressed that these are two different entities. I'm not sure how they are related, and I'm guessing no one else here does either.

She acted incorrectly and was clearly punished. Don't see the real tragedy. Or tyrrany...
victor809 Offline
#72 Posted:
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Z... You want the issue in its entirety, you have to also look at the repercussions. You can't claim tyrrany when the people you are claiming are being tyrannical are getting punished by the "powers that be".

You could try to claim the students are being" tyrannical ", but then you have to ask yourself if they are the power.

My point isn't that there isn't some level of pc policing... Just that your claims of tyrrany are clear hyperbole, ironically immediately following someone mocking the hyperbole of the PC complaints of racism due to seeing a Confederate flag.

Both sides need to have a time out with their bwinky
DrafterX Offline
#73 Posted:
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I blame the SEC... Mellow
tailgater Offline
#74 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Z... You want the issue in its entirety, you have to also look at the repercussions. You can't claim tyrrany when the people you are claiming are being tyrannical are getting punished by the "powers that be".

You could try to claim the students are being" tyrannical ", but then you have to ask yourself if they are the power.

My point isn't that there isn't some level of pc policing... Just that your claims of tyrrany are clear hyperbole, ironically immediately following someone mocking the hyperbole of the PC complaints of racism due to seeing a Confederate flag.

Both sides need to have a time out with their bwinky


Who are the two sides you refer to when you say "both"?

I see the side who invented a racial problem.
And who else needs a time out?

DrafterX Offline
#75 Posted:
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Good post... Mellow
tailgater Offline
#76 Posted:
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99cobra2881 wrote:
Here's a special little snowflake that just met the real world on Neil Cavuto.

http://youtu.be/Pu1y5g1O3-Y


I thank you for sharing that.
tailgater Offline
#77 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Good post... Mellow


That's what she said...


DrafterX Offline
#78 Posted:
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TW too... Mellow
tailgater Offline
#79 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
TW too... Mellow


I can never understand him when his mouth is full.
frankj1 Offline
#80 Posted:
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clearly we are not referencing Emily Post.
victor809 Offline
#81 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
Who are the two sides you refer to when you say "both"?

I see the side who invented a racial problem.
And who else needs a time out?



You don't think the individuals, exhibited by Z in this thread, are a little hyperbolic with their whole "in an environment that is tyrannical"?

The issue is, at best, puzzling. I'm puzzled by why the protesters think this is the molehill they're willing to die on. But it isn't my job, responsibility or right to tell them where their efforts and credibility are best spent. But of course this sort of thing will gain traction with the groups that want to use it as an example of ivory tower education system being out of touch with dang-gum common sense.
ZRX1200 Offline
#82 Posted:
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https://swordattheready.wordpress.com/2015/11/10/american-universities-are-grooming-a-nation-of-communist-pussies/
TMCTLT Offline
#83 Posted:
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And here's a little more from the tolerant Lefties @ yet another University



http://www.gopusa.com/freshink/2015/11/12/sad-and-pathetic-conservative-prof-hits-back-at-students-seeking-her-ouster/




tamapatom Offline
#84 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
You don't think the individuals, exhibited by Z in this thread, are a little hyperbolic with their whole "in an environment that is tyrannical"?

The issue is, at best, puzzling. I'm puzzled by why the protesters think this is the molehill they're willing to die on. But it isn't my job, responsibility or right to tell them where their efforts and credibility are best spent. But of course this sort of thing will gain traction with the groups that want to use it as an example of ivory tower education system being out of touch with dang-gum common sense.

gang-dum common sense?
TMCTLT Offline
#85 Posted:
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tamapatom wrote:
As opposed to.....gang-dum common sense?




Pardon me Tom but I had to "tweek that " a lil bit....


And toss this back in again, well worth the watch IMHO



http://www.gopusa.com/freshink/2015/11/12/sad-and-pathetic-conservative-prof-hits-back-at-students-seeking-her-ouster/[/color]


This (Black Female) Prof of Law is THE POSTER CHILD of the opportunities and successes the LEFTISTS say they want for the poor and less fortunate and minorities......So why do these lefties turn on her and attack her????


Why did I point out her gender and race???? Because she falls into TWO differing groups of MINORITIES and coming from a poverty driven upbringing.....has clearly STILL BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND not allowed herself to become delusional about how and why she was able to get where she is!!!!!!
tailgater Offline
#86 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
You don't think the individuals, exhibited by Z in this thread, are a little hyperbolic with their whole "in an environment that is tyrannical"?

The issue is, at best, puzzling. I'm puzzled by why the protesters think this is the molehill they're willing to die on. But it isn't my job, responsibility or right to tell them where their efforts and credibility are best spent. But of course this sort of thing will gain traction with the groups that want to use it as an example of ivory tower education system being out of touch with dang-gum common sense.


Are you saying that this is not an example of the "ivory tower education system being out of touch with dang-gum common sense"?

Speyside Offline
#87 Posted:
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I am puzzled by what the protest is about. There seems to me to be nothing there worth protesting about.

I find it unacceptable that university police are trying to limit free speech.

I find it unacceptable that the protesters are trying to limit access by the press.

I find it saddening that careers were ruined without an obviously logical reason.

I fully support the students right to protest.
DrafterX Offline
#88 Posted:
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We were watching TV
In Tiananmen Square
Lost my baby there
My yellow rose
In her bloodstained clothes.... Whistle
TMCTLT Offline
#89 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
I am puzzled by what the protest is about. There seems to me to be nothing there worth protesting about. And when it becomes physical ( which it did ) someone (many) should have been charged with intimidation

I find it unacceptable that university police are trying to limit free speech.

I find it unacceptable that the protesters are trying to limit access by the press.

I find it saddening that careers were ruined without an obviously logical reason.

I fully support the students right to protest.




Agreed but I'd have swapped your first line....for your last!! :)


And even more from our Higher Thinking Darlings.....

http://www.gopusa.com/freshink/2015/11/13/mizzou-student-vp-1st-amendment-creates-hostile-and-unsafe-learning-environment/?subscriber=1
tonygraz Offline
#90 Posted:
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Why do you hate higher education ?
TMCTLT Offline
#91 Posted:
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tonygraz wrote:
Why do you hate higher education ?




Because as we are seeing it " in some cases " leads to severe Ignorance...fog
victor809 Offline
#92 Posted:
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.... so because the occasional result of educating someone is "severe ignorance" you hate the entire process of reducing ignorance?
tonygraz Offline
#93 Posted:
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Sounds like you (TCBY) are against the pursuit of higher education.
tailgater Offline
#94 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
.... so because the occasional result of educating someone is "severe ignorance" you hate the entire process of reducing ignorance?


"process of reducing ignorance".

Unfortunately, that's not what colleges provide nowadays.

Those who enter ignorant will invariably exit in the same manner, albeit with a different skillset of ignorance.
victor809 Offline
#95 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
"process of reducing ignorance".

Unfortunately, that's not what colleges provide nowadays.

Those who enter ignorant will invariably exit in the same manner, albeit with a different skillset of ignorance.


Tail.... I'm saddened that you don't feel that you can learn anything from college.

When I went in I was ignorant of a lot of things. I didn't know the process by which cells generated energy, I was unfamiliar with the genetic regulation of specific proteins, I didn't know multivariable calculus nor could I speak russian.

I'm sure colleges these days still provide these services to individuals who don't go in already knowing all of this. You must have just been a very very advanced highschool student.
pdxstogieman Offline
#96 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
not to me, but you could donate them to The Library of Congress.


Another work of art from the Mapplethorpe School
Brewha Offline
#97 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Tail.... I'm saddened that you don't feel that you can learn anything from college.

When I went in I was ignorant of a lot of things. I didn't know the process by which cells generated energy, I was unfamiliar with the genetic regulation of specific proteins, I didn't know multivariable calculus nor could I speak russian.

I'm sure colleges these days still provide these services to individuals who don't go in already knowing all of this. You must have just been a very very advanced highschool student.

College educations are by and large overpriced and overrated.

College is needed if you want to pass the bar, or practice medicine, but then there is the case of most people. Where trade school or even a few of the right books are what is actually needed. Truth is that is is wasted time and money for many. Remember, Bill Gates doesn't have a degree.....
tonygraz Offline
#98 Posted:
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As someone once said - "We still need ditch diggers" - or something like that.
victor809 Offline
#99 Posted:
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...or a couple MIT engineers to design a ditch digging robot....
tamapatom Offline
#100 Posted:
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They just came up with a robot that will crawl under a crawlspace and spray foam insulation.
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