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Barry should apologize first and then resign.

So you're asking what should be done with private land-owners being overthrown by the US guberment for exercising their right, and who passed all gun-control background checks???

Are these the "Private land owners" that armed themselves, and took over some government owned land? Well, I guess they have the right to be stupid. If they hate the government so much, they could leave. Or they could do something stupid, and get what they are asking for. And what they are asking for, is not what they think they want.

Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)

Some folks are for law and order only when they agree, which of course makes them not for law and order. Many of the same folks are also anti compromise of any kind and believe if they do not get their way they should just ignore the end result. They claim to wrap themselves in the constitution while really being anti democracy. It reminds me of other unfortunate situations.

Ultimately most if not all involved should be leased a few feet of land in Leavenworth.

Giddy up Tee Dub.

Tell ALL that to your boy and his merry band of thieves in DC...

Ask yourself WHY the Feds waited 20 years to do anything about this!! What were the Feds themselves wanting of the land these ranchers were renting???

Borrowed from " Marlene " @ Disqus


I don't recognize the so-called "rights" the federal government claims to have either.. The constitution gives the states the right to sell land to the federal government but does not say they must. Reviewing the facts surrounding the sale of the reserved tract to the federal government it appears it forced the states to sell them this land. At first the state refused, but through government's usual unwavering pressure, they gave in. So the basis upon which the government claims ownership, together with its restricted use by the people, is a crime itself. Thus, in any lawsuit against it, the government should not prevail because of the "dirty hands" doctrine. Nevertheless,in this and in all matters of the federal government's encroachment, there is no statute of limitations on unconstitutional laws and no precedent overrides the Constitution. And no greedy thief, whether foreign or domestic, who buys a seat or a bench in our government will, with or without congress' consent, rule over us or control our lives. Nor should we let them. The farther and farther one goes back to 1776, the more and more stealth measure taken by tyranny are revealed in unconstitutional Act, laws, mandates, rulings, orders, and fiats - all of which are null, void, and without force. Our state constitutional Militias, both well-regulated and of the people where no Militia exists, have been replaced, illegally, by National Guards, which are US military reserves, controlled by a US Military Chief of Staff, and whose only powers lie in being for duty in cases of domestic emergencies and national disasters such as hurricanes, flood, earthquakes. We have been deprived of our state Militias and their power to protect and defend us against the tyranny of government. This is why I urge everyone to demand that their state provide the people with an armed, constitutional Militia, whether regulated or not, since further reading of the constitution does in fact provide for both. The dominoes that our corrupt government has put in place to control us by removing our protections against them, through stealth maneuvers and backdoor political trade offs, and with congress' unconstitutional laws in support of "whatever government wants, government gets", must fall. How dare the government presume they could continue their erosion of our individual rights, freedoms and liberties, once we reached the end of the line! I support this Oregon Militia and call for more in every state. Our government on all levels has failed us dangerously and left us vulnerable to the same types of governments people escaped from when they came to America. But there is no place in the world that we the people could escape to when the SHTF, so make sure the S doesn't HTF and fight for your right to be free.






True, for both sides though

Vanilla ISIS.

LOL

I guess folks need to look up Eminent Domain. It is simple really.
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)

I find it absolutely LAUGHABLE the times THIS administration chooses to use the term Terrorism....

Were the OBLMers in Ferguson not then terrorists by the same comparison or definition ?

Where are their Federal charges and jail time?

18 - anyone protesting in Ferguson with arms should be arrested. If they take over government institutions with arms the penalty should be tough. You are correct.

If the black panthers took over this facility for whatever reason they should end up in Leavenworth next to bundy.

Protest is ok. Being antigovernment is ok. Taking arms in this manner is not.

Because they burnt some grazing land they were brought up on Terrorist charges....again where are the terrorist charges being leveled @ OBLM protesters who burned and looted? Many citizens do not feel as though the use of ARMED SWAT teams as always necessary either....yet we all continue to see that across the country don't we?

Only 3 letters would be more correct you ignorant bufoon troll.

So in you mind if you disagree with the charges or the court system it's ok to take over government intitutiobs while armed in all instances or just those of your choosing? You see the issue right?

So the real question is, which is better?

Vanilla Isis (thank you TW)
or
Y'all Queda


???

Have they fired ANY shots @ anyone? Yet it's getting attention right? If you are a fan of the way ours courts operate today....good for you, many to include me think they're running amok and using their benches as they see fit.

No one is saying I'm a fan of the courts. Your mental process is bizzarro. Not fireing shots means nothing other than if they do the punishment should be even more severe.

The tactics are wrong. Period.

I didn't see you praising the occupoopers.

TW is a fan of the courts.






You heard it here first.

The funny part is its the same issue ..... abuse of authority. Just a matter of who you back. Both wrong. And at this point in my life I'm less of a fan of the authorities than I've ever been. But you can't just do what you want because you disagree.

And sorry about the sitting thing. I forgot the safe word.

Apples and oranges only because you agree with one and not the other. That's the point.

Okay so....if we agree they're BOTH abuses of authority..but in one case they ( the ranchers ) go back to prison while the " other " offenders ( rogue court appointments ) get off Scott Free....how then does the " little guy " get justice? In this country....they don't anymore. surely you can see the imbalance when our courts who have an endless stream of revenue
( taxpayer dollars ) to fight the " little guy " the field id @ the very start lopsided and illegal in some way.

Have they not already been punished? Should our government be allowed to use the new and favorite buzzword TERRORISM when referring to brush fires to increase grazing possiblities so they can justify their behavior? Is the original 2nd Amendment right granted us not being used here....legally? How much press or attention would this case get had the father / son combo simply caved and returned to prison? I'm not saying this was THE ONLY way to have handled this situation....but neither was the BLM's

They are armed insurgents. They should be convicted on whatever charges are brought against them that they actually broke. Anything else would be putting them above the law.

Drone strikes FTW.

Nor do I, yet this administration cannot use it enough....and we both know why!!! Because it DOES have an effect on the majority of Americans. Although until this admin. it WAS reserved for things like plane highjacking / bombings / mass killings etc. Now apparently it's for anything to include brush fires, and do not even try to go there!!! I'm not anti government across the board, but IT / THEY need to be reigned in!!!!