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So, what should be done about the Bundy militia ?
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Brewha Offline
#101 Posted: Mon, Jan 4 2016, 4:44 PM EST
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If they were black kids with hoodies and squirt guns they’d already be shot.



Did I say that out loud?
opelmanta1900 Offline
#102 Posted: Mon, Jan 4 2016, 4:55 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
If they were black kids with hoodies and squirt guns they’d already be shot.



Did I say that out loud?


That'd be kinda weird if you did... I know Doogie Howser used to do it and I think Mr Belvedeere did too, but most people don't say out loud whatever it is they're typing... I guess if you're alone it's no big deal but if there are people around they're gonna think you're weird...
gummy jones Offline
#103 Posted: Mon, Jan 4 2016, 5:00 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
If they were black kids with hoodies and squirt guns they’d already be shot.



Did I say that out loud?


didn't see many shot in baltimore, ferguson, all the mall riots that weren't publicized a couple weeks ago, etc

but i digress...
tonygraz Offline
#104 Posted: Mon, Jan 4 2016, 5:17 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
To waste any more time on Toni the troll is just foolishness compounded, I have blocked the troll and won't reply to his musings any longer.


I take that as an admission of being a troll.
tailgater Offline
#105 Posted: Mon, Jan 4 2016, 5:23 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
That'd be kinda weird if you did... I know Doogie Howser used to do it and I think Mr Belvedeere did too, but most people don't say out loud whatever it is they're typing... I guess if you're alone it's no big deal but if there are people around they're gonna think you're weird...


Shhhh.
tailgater Offline
#106 Posted: Mon, Jan 4 2016, 5:24 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
I take that as an admission of being a troll.


So you admit it?
ZRX1200 Offline
#107 Posted: Mon, Jan 4 2016, 5:53 PM EST
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http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/03/full-story-on-whats-going-on-in-oregon-militia-take-over-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge-in-protest-to-hammond-family-persecution/

Some added info at the bottom of the story.
teedubbya Offline
#108 Posted: Mon, Jan 4 2016, 6:02 PM EST
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I found the same on several similar sites but could never find the original or any annotation.

I don't know what really happened but know there are usually more than one side. Your take is the trial was flawed, the jury was wrong (presumably due to misinformation) the court was poisoned etc and anything suggesting otherwise is propaganda or the like. That's quite a story. That said stranger things have happened and I suppose it's possible. Quite a few stars had to line up perfectly though and it still doesn't justify what's going on here anymore than presumed wrong doing by authorities justify what went on in balmer or Ferguson. Remember they are so sure they are right too based on their street info and blogs vs the info coming from the man.

ZRX1200 Offline
#109 Posted: Mon, Jan 4 2016, 6:03 PM EST
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Also teedubya you should take a peek at judge Atkins.
teedubbya Offline
#110 Posted: Mon, Jan 4 2016, 6:11 PM EST
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Already have. Meh.

I don't buy into conspiracy theory as quickly as you do but I know that doesn't necessarily make you wrong. I'm just more conservative about it and don't see all the stars aligned on this one yet.

Bundy and crew are still wrong in their approach and the law should be applied.
victor809 Offline
#111 Posted: Mon, Jan 4 2016, 6:35 PM EST
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Not to point out the obvious...

But if you really were convinced that the Federal govt is evil, is unwilling to give you a fair trial and this evil oppressive president will force the courts to be extra mean to any poor armed white guys...

Why would you take over a federal government building while armed... And say you'll defend yourself and refuse to leave?

Everyone knows the US government has bigger guns... Why would you put yourself in a position to force the US government to use those bigger guns?

Either these people realize that as white males they are a lot less likely to get the full "armed militia takes over a federal building" treatment... Or they are absolutely retarded... Like protesting gravity by standing under one of those cartoon acme weights retarded...
jjanecka Offline
#112 Posted: Mon, Jan 4 2016, 7:41 PM EST
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It's all a political stunt so there is justification for writing a gun control executive order. The media is in control of this fiasco and its nothing more than a dog and pony show.
victor809 Offline
#113 Posted: Mon, Jan 4 2016, 7:46 PM EST
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...hang on? Obama sent the armed protesters in to taje control of a building so he can write an executive order? Wow... He's devious.
tonygraz Offline
#114 Posted: Mon, Jan 4 2016, 8:19 PM EST
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He even got the word out about the upcoming executive order nicely in advance of Bundy's takeover. What a devious genius.
gummy jones Offline
#115 Posted: Mon, Jan 4 2016, 8:23 PM EST
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jjanecka wrote:
It's all a political stunt so there is justification for writing a gun control executive order. The media is in control of this fiasco and its nothing more than a dog and pony show.


im not so sure i agree with the above

so bundy now works for obama?

all that stuff when he and his family were getting surrounded by the blm to "save the desert tortoise" was just to build his street cred or something for this ultimate collaborative plan?
gummy jones Offline
#116 Posted: Mon, Jan 4 2016, 8:58 PM EST
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MDYavVAZRLw
ZRX1200 Offline
#117 Posted: Mon, Jan 4 2016, 10:12 PM EST
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http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/04/unbelievable-update-oregon-bundy-militia-standoff-the-federal-prosecutor-at-the-heart-of-the-hammond-family-problem/

Links provided in the story TW.

Judge Atkins ruled against an Eco-terrorist group and gave them a sentence which included watching some "ok" Eco-groups movie on how to protest for mother earth.
tonygraz Offline
#118 Posted: Mon, Jan 4 2016, 11:44 PM EST
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jjanecka wrote:
It's all a political stunt so there is justification for writing a gun control executive order. The media is in control of this fiasco and its nothing more than a dog and pony show.


Great first post ! Another conspiracy nutcase.
DrafterX Offline
#119 Posted: Tue, Jan 5 2016, 8:20 AM EST
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well, this worked at that Mizzura college didn't it..?? Huh
teedubbya Offline
#120 Posted: Tue, Jan 5 2016, 8:24 AM EST
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The bundys are refusing to play the foosball?
DrafterX Offline
#121 Posted: Tue, Jan 5 2016, 8:31 AM EST
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That's what I heard... Mellow
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#122 Posted: Tue, Jan 5 2016, 9:50 AM EST
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Have we had that drone strike yet? All it takes is one, maybe two, Hellfire missile(s) to resolve this. We can be done by lunch if we hurry up.
tonygraz Offline
#123 Posted: Tue, Jan 5 2016, 10:01 AM EST
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I've heard commentary that there are over 150 there, but from what videos I saw it looked more like 15. First attempt at resolution should be encirclement and shutting off water and power. After a couple of weeks they should be done.
DrafterX Offline
#124 Posted: Tue, Jan 5 2016, 10:02 AM EST
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we could pound them with deafening non-stop rock & roll too... Mellow
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#125 Posted: Tue, Jan 5 2016, 10:04 AM EST
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No tear gas?

Pussies.
tonygraz Offline
#126 Posted: Tue, Jan 5 2016, 10:08 AM EST
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They seem to be crying enough.
fiddler898 Offline
#127 Posted: Tue, Jan 5 2016, 8:26 PM EST
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Bunch of losers.
Gene363 Offline
#128 Posted: Tue, Jan 5 2016, 11:38 PM EST
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For a local point of view: https://youtu.be/XegdowqgJ4w

Armed Militia Standoff: Bundys Go Home!
teedubbya Offline
#129 Posted: Wed, Jan 6 2016, 11:31 AM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
For a local point of view: https://youtu.be/XegdowqgJ4w

Armed Militia Standoff: Bundys Go Home!




Very good video. Most of what he says is where I am at.
DrafterX Offline
#130 Posted: Wed, Jan 6 2016, 11:51 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Very good video. Most of what he says is where I am at.



And if not the video woulda sucked..?? Huh
dstieger Offline
#131 Posted: Wed, Jan 6 2016, 12:08 PM EST
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And all this time, who's minding the shoe store?
teedubbya Offline
#132 Posted: Wed, Jan 6 2016, 12:25 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
And if not the video woulda sucked..?? Huh



not necessarily I find the Riley Martin types amusing.
DrafterX Offline
#133 Posted: Wed, Jan 6 2016, 12:38 PM EST
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You mean Ricki..?? Huh
teedubbya Offline
#134 Posted: Wed, Jan 6 2016, 12:48 PM EST
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No. Have you bought your symbol yet?


If not you might be doomed.

http://www.rileymartin.com/
DrafterX Offline
#135 Posted: Wed, Jan 6 2016, 1:32 PM EST
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Doomed..?? you been talking to Bloody..?? Huh


50 bucks for a symbol that may or may not guarantee me a seat will require some more thought... Think Think
pdxstogieman Offline
#136 Posted: Tue, Jan 12 2016, 8:43 AM EST
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cacman wrote:
So you're asking what should be done with private land-owners being overthrown by the US guberment for exercising their right, and who passed all gun-control background checks???


No. He's asking what should be done with a bunch of **** who never owned the land they are squatting on and who somehow think they are entitled to it by virtue of their being gun wielding pieces of ****. What should be done with a bunch of hyper aggressive outside agitating jackwads, who have invaded and disrupted a county that really wants nothing to do with them. **** who proclaim to be "we the people" whose main surreptitious support is from billionaires and corporations that want to privatize what belongs to the public so they can rape the land once again.

The federal government was accorded ownership of all land acquired outside of the original 13 colonies, and in Oregon provisions of the offer of statehood that were accepted in 1859 were that land in federal ownership would remain in federal ownership.

Turn off the power and water at the Malheur Reserve facility, set up a perimeter to prevent any supplies from being delivered and let them starve, freeze, or come out and surrender. If they walk with shooting distance of the perimeter with weapons in hand, shoot their asses. They got away with pointing guns at federal employees in Nevada. Don't let them do it a second time without consequences.

The Bundy's are total scumbag freeloaders. Takers. Hang them.
pdxstogieman Offline
#137 Posted: Tue, Jan 12 2016, 8:56 AM EST
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Homebrew wrote:
I guess folks need to look up Eminent Domain. It is simple really.
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)Beer


The same folks who seemed to think the government exercising eminent domain was great if it was to seize private land for the purpose of building an oil pipeline from Canada to the Gulf of Mexico, now rationalize that land that has always been in government ownership should be used for free by a small group of crackpot thugs with guns who proclaim themselves "we the people". Last time I checked I am a citizen of the US and if I bought a hundred head of cattle and trucked them to the federal land that the Bundy clan has been usurping to run their cattle on for free, they probably wouldn't welcome my heard grazing on "our land". These motherfuckers just want to take what never belonged to them in the first place. If they want to return the land to the original owners, give it to the Paiute tribe that got run off of it.
pdxstogieman Offline
#138 Posted: Tue, Jan 12 2016, 9:06 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Because they burnt some grazing land they were brought up on Terrorist charges....again where are the terrorist charges being leveled @ OBLM protesters who burned and looted? Many citizens do not feel as though the use of ARMED SWAT teams as always necessary either....yet we all continue to see that across the country don't we?


What he is saying folks is "white folk using guns to break laws good. Law enforcement enforcing the law broken by said white folk with guns bad. Black folks using guns to break laws bad, Law enforcement enforcing the law broken by black folk with guns good".

He doesn't know squat about the Hammond's case other than what he's read in the "mainstream media". They aren't the persecuted saints he wants to make them out to be. They purposefully ran a brush fire up a hill where firefighters were located. They're lucky to only get a few years for arson instead of 20 for attempted murder.
pdxstogieman Offline
#139 Posted: Tue, Jan 12 2016, 9:09 AM EST
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Hmmm...they claim to be a militia? Federalize that militia and send them all to Afghanistan
frankj1 Offline
#140 Posted: Tue, Jan 12 2016, 1:12 PM EST
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you been cooped up for awhile, Chuck? HA!
pdxstogieman Offline
#141 Posted: Fri, Jan 15 2016, 6:31 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
you been cooped up for awhile, Chuck? HA!


I just decided I am "we the people" and F#ck civility as it is unnecessary when dealing with people who hold the view that a mob of mooching, gun toting POS's are somehow "Patriotic".
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#142 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 9:59 PM EST
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r2AJjuAMzBY
ZRX1200 Offline
#143 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 10:59 AM EST
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http://koin.com/2016/01/14/3-harney-county-school-officials-announce-resignations/
ZRX1200 Offline
#144 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 11:42 AM EST
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http://tvoinews.com/featured/the-fbi-meets-real-americans/
victor809 Offline
#145 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 3:11 PM EST
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Have we Waco'ed these azzes yet?
DrafterX Offline
#146 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 4:00 PM EST
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You mean like at the Twin Peaks..?? Huh
ZRX1200 Offline
#147 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 4:34 PM EST
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http://thefreethoughtproject.com/black-oregon-militiaman-bridges-divide-asks-black-lives-matter-activists-join/#hDqsFps5eBJeJAQQ.01
victor809 Offline
#148 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 5:16 PM EST
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Having a black dude in your militia shouldn't keep it from being run over by the full force of our American military might.

Show these rebels what we do to people who don't recognize the American land as such... Go all Sherman on their ass...
Brewha Offline
#149 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 6:49 PM EST
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We should send them hoodies.
And Skittles......
victor809 Offline
#150 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 7:24 PM EST
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Turn the entire rebel territory into glass.
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