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Let's say Cruz becomes POTUS.
And a few years in he decides to make "Common Sense" restrictions in regards to abortion.
A bipartisan congress deny's him, so he creates a series of executive orders to make it happen.

To all those applauding Obama on his gun plan, be careful what you wish for.

Then the mere consciousness of existence, without thought – a condition which lasted long. Then, very suddenly, thought, and shuddering terror, and earnest endeavor to comprehend my true state...

Here is one example

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President-elect Barack Obama is considering issuing an executive order to reverse a controversial Bush administration abortion policy in his first week in office, three Democratic sources said Monday.

Obama's second full day as president falls on the 36th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion in the United States.

The sources said Obama may use the occasion to reverse the "Mexico City policy" reinstated in 2001 by Bush that prohibits U.S. money from funding international family planning groups that promote abortion or provide information, counseling or referrals about abortion services. It bans any organization receiving family planning funds from the U.S. Agency for International Development from offering abortions or abortion counseling.

The "Mexico City policy," commonly referred to by critics as "the global gag rule," was devised by President Ronald Reagan in 1984 at a population conference in Mexico City.

President Bill Clinton lifted the ban in January 1993 as one of his first acts as president, but President George W. Bush reinstated it in his first executive order on January 22, 2001, the 28th anniversary of Roe v. Wade.

At the time, critics -- including Planned Parenthood -- called the move a "legislative ambush."

Bush defended the action, saying then: "It is my conviction that taxpayer funds should not be used to pay for abortion or actively promote abortion." E-mail to a friend

That's as far as I could handle. Sorry.

You mean like recently when Texas governor Greg Abbott shut down most all of the abortion clinics?

He did a great job as Felix in the Odd Couple.

I saw her play.

does that include shotguns..??

I don't want to deflate you, but I didn't think you were actually sitting at an adult table. You should try putting first things first- like president Cruz = doomsday.

Is it watermelon season?

Executive orders are how our government works. Like it or not.

And as far as abortions go - Oh, no you don't!
The view that legal abortion is murder is a religious view. It is not a fact of science or law. Some feel that birth control is and act murder or against God’s will and some feel that the morning after pill is murder – this is their choice. But these are spiritual views – again not science or law. We have a separation of church and state in this country. Thank God!

When you vote democrat, you are voting for "the man"

The big obtrusive government "Man"

No. In fact there are a great many things about our governments’ workings that I do not like. Congressional blockades, super packs, graft…..

But no one has sited that Obama did anything egregious that has not been done by other presidents. I get the indignation – but his actions are par for the course.




What “free choice”? They say keep your nose and religion out of other people’s wombs.
And you should.

I thought this was about executive orders?

That's what I heard....

Can we get back to John Lennon?

Yup.
And Bill Clinton did not have sexual relations, depending what the definition of "is" is.

This is a discussion, not a legal proceeding.
Until it draws its first breath??
Are you serious?
So the day before your wife gives birth the baby isn't a baby?
I don't need to know the legal definitions, but for the record I think you might be wrong on that whole "breath" definition.

All I saw was the steel, don't know if the bullet came out pristine tho. I still remember the AR15 that some clown used a hand reload in, despite the warnings not to.

Look, you may believe that and egg is a human life even if it is unfertilized - more power to you.

Me - I've already spoke my piece.

What is funnier than a dead baby..??
A dead baby in a clown costume...

So the first cannibal says to the second cannibal;
“Does this clown taste funny?”

Who said an egg was a human life?
The fact that you have to lie in order to make you point speaks volumes.

Thread jacking my own thread here, but the term "viable" is the key.
Viable how?
If keeping it alive with a machine counts, then today's fetus becomes tomorrows "viable baby" since we can assume our equipment will get better over time.

And is it "morality" that we're trying to define?
At some point, it's just common sense.
example:
If a woman wants to abort after 8 months, she would have to have a medical procedure to kill "it".
In other words, she would have to do "something" to prevent it from living.
If the same woman gave birth and decided she didn't want a baby after 1 month, she could technically do nothing and it would die.
Is this her "choice"?
Rhetorical, yes. But people get so caught up in the word "choice" that they forget what their choosing.
Religious freaks frown on contraception.
But there's a middle ground between the RU486 pill and a third term abortion a week before delivery. Since nobody here can tell us that precise moment when a fetus becomes a baby my gut (not my religion) says to err on the side of life.
But saying this out loud makes people like Brewha falsify what I'm saying in order to give legs to his narrow minded viewpoint.
The subject wasn't even ABOUT abortion, but because it was used in the example I provided to start the thread we get the Brewha's of the world wetting themselves in a fury over religion.
It would be comical if it weren't so sad.

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