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tailgater Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 1:13 PM EST
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That's what Spike Lee says.
So he's going to boycott.
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#2 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 1:14 PM EST
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Maybe he doesn't win because 98.2% of his movies suck and are basically the same premise over and over.
tailgater Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 1:32 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Maybe he doesn't win because 98.2% of his movies suck and are basically the same premise over and over.


That.
And the fact that he's black.

And according to him, the Academy is "Lily White".
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#4 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 1:33 PM EST
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Maybe Spike Lee is racist...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 1:35 PM EST
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True story: In 1996 I was in a Snapple commercial directed by Spike Lee...
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#6 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 2:04 PM EST
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I was shocked that "Straight Out Of Compton" didn't receive more nominations. It was such a great movie. It told a very powerful story.

"The Revenant" is such a magnificent movie that it deserves to win everything it's up for.
tailgater Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 2:53 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
True story: In 1996 I was in a Snapple commercial directed by Spike Lee...


Snapple?
Or skittles and Iced Tea?
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#8 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 3:08 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Maybe Spike Lee is racist...



Spike is racist. Remember he said when he would see a interracial couple (white and black)... he would stare at them with "visual daggers" so they will feel uncomfortable.

Maybe he will do a Kanye West and crash the awards ceremony stage.
tonygraz Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 3:33 PM EST
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All indications are they they are racist.
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#10 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 3:41 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
All indications are they they are racist.


Is is that that so so?

Here's a big list of indications you're wrong:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_black_Academy_Award_winners_and_nominees
Mikekoz13 Offline
#11 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 4:00 PM EST
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I agree that the Academy Awards are racist.................. unlike the BET awards.


Sarcasm
tailgater Offline
#12 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 4:27 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
All indications are they they are racist.


In all honesty, I find that your comments over time have painted you as a decidedly racist person.
I don't suggest you hate or even dislike persons of color. Simply that you look for color first, then decide how you will respond.
Perhaps the proper term isn't "racist", but you certainly are racially motivated.


Now, do you honestly feel that the Academy picks and chooses nominations based on skin color?
It's time we stop blaming race on anything perceived as negative.
I guess if Alfred Hitchcock were black he could blame racism for never winning best picture or even best director.

It's time for America to pull up their big boy pants and stop blaming OTHER people when they're not chosen for an award. Lest we degenerate to a nation of "participation" trophies for all.


Hey spike lee: sometimes the suck is simply YOU.
Mr. Jones Offline
#13 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 5:08 PM EST
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spike lee has made some very good movie's...

my guess is that funding them, getting publicity and
getting in the bigtime theatre chains has been a tough road to hoe for him....

he doesn't get many breaks at all....

that being said...

no way is he a racist....
but...
HE IS ONE PREJUDICED MOFO....
ZRX1200 Offline
#14 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 5:35 PM EST
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"Making films has to be one of the hardest endeavors known to humankind"
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#15 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 5:48 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Is is that that so so?

Here's a big list of indications you're wrong:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_black_Academy_Award_winners_and_nominees


And Spike Lee is on that list 3 times. Two nominations, one award.
bgz Offline
#16 Posted: Mon, Jan 18 2016, 6:09 PM EST
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Everyone's a racist, just not everyone admits it.

I think in order to not be a racist, blindness and deafness from birth would be a prerequisite.

Doesn't just stop at race, fatties, midgets, chicks with too many moles (thanks cable guy), punks, goths, nerds, jocks, dweebs, etc....

There's a reason why we're the dominant species on this planet..., and it's not because we're all a bunch of tree hugging hippies. If that were the case, the lions, tigers and bears would have took us out thousands of years ago.


Oh... back to the original topic...

Academy Awards can't be racist,it's just an event put on by racist humans :)
bgz Offline
#17 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 11:56 AM EST
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lol, I need to change my name to "Thread Killer".
cacman Offline
#18 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 12:24 PM EST
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friggin' hypocrites.
Wonder how many Caucasians are nominated for the BET Awards.
Oh that's right… that's different and doesn't count.

Make a decent movie… then you will get nominated.
Or are you expecting a "participation award"?
bgz Offline
#19 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 12:42 PM EST
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Eminem won a BET award once (just looked it up on Wikipedia lol).

Surprised people didn't riot over that one.
tonygraz Offline
#20 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 1:03 PM EST
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cacman wrote:
friggin' hypocrites.
Wonder how many Caucasians are nominated for the BET Awards.
Oh that's right… that's different and doesn't count.

Make a decent movie… then you will get nominated.
Or are you expecting a "participation award"?



I think the B should be investigated for its actual meaning and if the Academy is white only maybe they should say so.
tailgater Offline
#21 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 1:50 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
... if the Academy is white only maybe they should say so.


Were you literally born yesterday?
There is a long history of black actors, directors, etc. who have been nominated and won awards at these silly events.
For Spike Lee and Mrs. Will Smith to protest over this shows nothing more than how shallow they are.
bgz Offline
#22 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 2:20 PM EST
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Take it a step further, I wonder what the ratio is of Jewish award winners vs Non-Jewish award winners.

I think the blacks are picking the wrong fight.

After all, Jews pretty much own Hollywood.

If Spike Lee wants to win another academy award, he might want consider changing his name to Goldlee, or Leestein.

Just a thought.
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#23 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 3:26 PM EST
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Spike lee blows.
John singleton makes him and his movies look like what they are, trash. The only thing worse than spike lee movies is his acting.
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#24 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 3:34 PM EST
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What happened to, "Until the colour of a man's skin, Is of no more significance than the colour of his eyes" and "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."?

I thought we were supposed to be colorblind. fog
bgz Offline
#25 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 4:21 PM EST
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sd72 wrote:
Spike lee blows.
John singleton makes him and his movies look like what they are, trash. The only thing worse than spike lee movies is his acting.


Yep, spike lee's movies are chit. I can agree with that, I think I've only saw a couple of them, both were bad.

Might be a cultural thing though, maybe I just "didn't get it", but I think it's more likely the acting was trash...

Been a while, you only have to see 1 or 2 chitty movies from someone before you decide to not watch any more.
victor809 Offline
#26 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 4:42 PM EST
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Tail, Tony's argument is sound.
Ignore the argument of whether the Oscars is racist or not... Cacmans argument against it is that a BET (black entertainment television) award show doesn't nominate enough whites. His argument literally presupposes that the Oscars is equivalent to BET, but white... Which makes Tony's comment the logical follow up question.

In the context it makes sense and is kind of amusing
tonygraz Offline
#27 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 4:46 PM EST
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Yes Victor, some people have no sense of humor, particularly when it comes to racial equality, gender equality and religion.
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#28 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 4:57 PM EST
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well, none of those things really matter anyways... Mellow
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#29 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 5:58 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Tail, Tony's argument is sound.
Ignore the argument of whether the Oscars is racist or not... Cacmans argument against it is that a BET (black entertainment television) award show doesn't nominate enough whites. His argument literally presupposes that the Oscars is equivalent to BET, but white... Which makes Tony's comment the logical follow up question.

In the context it makes sense and is kind of amusing

Funny that the black community is the only one screaming racism. The same community that has their own television network, their own colleges, their own awards shows, etc. etc. etc. The list of items segregated by the black community is A LOT larger than the white community they are always blaming racism on. Jada Pinkett & Spike Lee are two of the most racist celebrities in Hollywood - literally the pot calling the kettle black.

What's next, are they going to say not enough black actors/directors where nominated for the Golden Globes or the Tony. Those nominations usually run fairly similar to the Oscars. Are they also going to say they didn't get enough "People's Choice" awards?

Fuq them and the racism they bring to every god damn topic they can just to stay relevant on TV.
tonygraz Offline
#30 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 6:18 PM EST
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I guess the fact that they had to come up with their own awards because they were ignored escaped you.
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#31 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 6:21 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
I guess the fact that they had to come up with their own awards because they were ignored escaped you.

What hasn't escaped me is that they have come up with their "own", segregate everyone else, and then have the balls to complain they are segregated against when they do it to themselves.
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#32 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 6:29 PM EST
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Cacman,

This is unrelated, but on this site I used to run, a black dude got on there arguing that it's impossible for a black person to be racist because they are a minority all the while talking crap about white people.

This mentality is shared by many, I'm sure it's shared by Lee and Pinkett.

You can't argue with people who have dramatic egocentric views such as that because they simply refuse to hear what you are saying.

Tony,

It has gone beyond the point of racial equality... there's nobody stopping anybody from doing what they want to do, or achieving their goals through hard work and dedication.

What they are asking/protesting/rioting/looting for is racial inequality in their favor.


Thread related,

Want an award, make a better movie.
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#33 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 6:42 PM EST
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Janet Hubert – who played Aunt Vivian on the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air – posted a video response to Will Smith’s wife, who announced that she will not be attending the Oscars due to the lack of diversity among the nominees. “First of all, Miss Thing, does your man not have a mouth of his own with which to speak?” Hubert declared. “The second thing, girlfriend, there’s a lot of sh** going on in the world that you all don’t seem to recognize. People are dying. Our boys are being shot left and right. People are starving. People are trying to pay bills. And you’re talking about some motherf**king actors and Oscars. It just ain’t that deep.”

Hubert also did not agree with Jada asking other people in Hollywood to boycott the awards show. “And here’s the other thing, for you to ask other actors, and other black actresses and actors, too, to jeopardize their career and their standing in a town that you know damn well you don’t do that,” she said. “And here’s the other thing – they don’t care. They don’t care! And I find it ironic that somebody who has made their living, and made millions and millions of dollars from the very people you’re talking about boycotting just because you didn’t get a nomination, just because you didn’t win. That is not the way life works, baby.”

On Fresh Prince, Hubert played Aunt Viv from 1990 to 1993 before she was replaced by Daphne Maxwell-Reid. During her rant against Jada’s Oscars boycott, the actress called out her former on-screen nephew – whose work in Concussion was snubbed by the Academy – for not helping her and her co-stars negotiate raises while she was on the show. “Karma’s a b**ch,” Hubert exclaimed. “You ain’t Barack and Michelle Obama, and y'all need to get over yourselves.”

- Entertainment Tonight
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#34 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 7:20 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Tail, Tony's argument is sound.
Ignore the argument of whether the Oscars is racist or not... Cacmans argument against it is that a BET (black entertainment television) award show doesn't nominate enough whites. His argument literally presupposes that the Oscars is equivalent to BET, but white... Which makes Tony's comment the logical follow up question.

In the context it makes sense and is kind of amusing


No.
It's amusing when Chris Rock calls the Academy Awards the "White BET awards".

It's borish when someone is driven by white guilt to question what needs no questioning.

A 2 year perceived drought for the black community doesn't even come close to racially motivated voting by the academy.

This is Spike Lee trying to regain relevance, and when braindead liberals take the bait it's bad for America.

If someone were truly serious about fighting race inequality they wouldn't worry about an awards ceremony that is famous for high profile snubs nearly every year.

Shame on these posers for polluting an otherwise worthy cause.
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#35 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 7:22 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
Yes Victor, some people have no sense of humor, particularly when it comes to racial equality, gender equality and religion.


And some people have no testosterone or male genitalia, but you really shouldn't make it so obvious.
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#36 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 7:23 PM EST
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I noticed you didn't disagree with my argument.
I'll take your entire post as a "you are right, I am wrong Victor".
tailgater Offline
#37 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 7:23 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
I guess the fact that they had to come up with their own awards because they were ignored escaped you.


Yeah.
It's just like the days of the negro league baseball.


Hank Aaron would be embarrassed to be black if he were alive today.
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#38 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 7:28 PM EST
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I do find it a little... Questionable... When a bunch of old fat white guys speculate on whether a historic black figure would or would not be "embarrassed to be black" today.

Seriously... Neither you, nor I nor any of the other old fat white guys know enough about "being black" to be able to make that speculation. It's weird enough that the thread is a bunch of angry fat white guys arguing over what constitutes racism... Let's not let it get more weird than that.
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#39 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 7:29 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
I noticed you didn't disagree with my argument.
I'll take your entire post as a "you are right, I am wrong Victor".


Oh, you were serious?

OK.
Cacman's argument doesn't have to presuppose that the oscars are the ying to the BET yang.
In fact, he is saying they are NOT.

The Oscars are inclusive for all races.
The only ones crying are a few black entertainers.
Yet only Black Entertainers have an award program EXCLUSIVELY for them.
One based on color.
Not character.
Which probably fares well for Spike Lee.


The Good Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. would be embarrassed to be a black man today.
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#40 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 7:30 PM EST
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Look at that!
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#41 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 7:30 PM EST
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Hah!
tailgater Offline
#42 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 7:35 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
I do find it a little... Questionable... When a bunch of old fat white guys speculate on whether a historic black figure would or would not be "embarrassed to be black" today.

Seriously... Neither you, nor I nor any of the other old fat white guys know enough about "being black" to be able to make that speculation. It's weird enough that the thread is a bunch of angry fat white guys arguing over what constitutes racism... Let's not let it get more weird than that.


Oh stop it.
Why would color matter?

You could argue that no man could speculate about any other man.
To bring in color is beyond stupid.

A white man of today could sooner relate to a black man of today, then today's black man could relate to someone from MLK's day. (does that read OK?)
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#43 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 7:35 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Yeah.
It's just like the days of the negro league baseball.


Hank Aaron would be embarrassed to be black if he were alive today.

He is black today.
tailgater Offline
#44 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 7:37 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
He is black today.


I thought he was dead?
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#45 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 7:59 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Let's not let it get more weird than that.



Show me on the doll where the bad man touched you...
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#46 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 8:18 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
I thought he was dead?


Ernie Banks
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#47 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 8:26 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
I do find it a little... Questionable... When a bunch of old fat white guys speculate on whether a historic black figure would or would not be "embarrassed to be black" today.

Seriously... Neither you, nor I nor any of the other old fat white guys know enough about "being black" to be able to make that speculation. It's weird enough that the thread is a bunch of angry fat white guys arguing over what constitutes racism... Let's not let it get more weird than that.


LOL!

I'm not fat!!!

Nor am I black...

but I'm not white either.

I've had my share of racism handed out against me, but I don't give a flying fk what other people think of me, nor do I cry when chit don't go my way.

Oh, I'm not angry either :)


So I have to assume you're talking about everyone else.
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#48 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 8:31 PM EST
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This whole ...
"Made up OSCAR OUTRAGE"
IS
A
LOAD
OF
B.U.N.K.

Jada Pinkett Smith is so freakin' rich and HOT....
WTF does she have to b# tch about in life?

#A stupid gold ART DECO STATUE???

Christ....walk a mile in my shoes ....beeee-otch...
and you'd really be bitchin'....

She spawned one of the weirdest kids in Hollywood who thinks he's reincarnated and "Has special powers"...ffffuuuuucccckkkk....he was parked in front of the T.V. 24-7-365 and had a Spanish Nanny as for his real mother....

THIS WHOLE OSCAR OUTRAGE IS A COMPLETE
JOKE AND PRESS STORY H.Y.P.E....

I COULD CARE LESS...
WGAF
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#49 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 8:35 PM EST
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^^^
probably could not care less, based on the capital letters.
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#50 Posted: Tue, Jan 19 2016, 8:43 PM EST
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I can't get worked up, nor am I a huge Spike fan, even less do I care if anyone else is or not. I have enjoyed some of his work though, have not seen all of it.

But though his style of movie making is a matter of taste, I have to say he has done his share of skewering his own race. Many unflattering caricatures appear, and he even goes after intra-black prejudice. I believe the movie School Daze pits light skinned blacks against dark skinned blacks and exposes stuff that many whites and BGZ may not know happens routinely...just for an example.

Meh, whatever.
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