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No. It's clearly Fed Gubmint overreach. God told me so.

You would not know the truth if it hit you between the eyes.

I say let her win the primaries... the news will be flooded with her incompetence if she goes up against Trump.

She stands no chance.

Yes, even if the messages were originated by others. You are responsible for recognizing classification mistakes by others and taking specified action to safeguard classified content. This responsibility is above any other consideration, period.

Oh, and Hillary saying she wants the emails shown is public is a truly disingenuous and telling statement. She know they cannot due to the content of the emails.

Yup. But context and timing is also part of the equation and consequences may not be as harsh as some would like. Calls to have her in jail may be a little early and harsh and maybe a little hyperbole based on politics. Saying the only reason she isn't already in jail is the system is fixed blah blah blah is convenient if your view of guilt (regardless of where the process is or what evidence is there) is all that is important and due process isn't a concern.

If she is guilty she WILL pay for it dearly with a minimum of her aspirations going away. There are enough professionals working on this that if there is a solid case she won't slide. She is so divisive that for every person willing to slime for her there is another sliming against her. If there is a smoking gun there is no way it will slide by unused and ineffective. She has just as many or more powerful enemies as friends. And many of her friends won't fall on their sword for her. She's just not likeable even to her friends.

When there is no smoking gun that's when the politically blinded morons go crazy about she should be in jail what a world what a world. If there is one it will play out. And the later it players out in the process the better it is for the republicans. To those convinced at the beginning with no evidence or information at all none of this matters. She's guilty period. Anything short of that is a fix. Some know this approach isn't accurate but is convenient. Others don't know, actually believe, and are merely the idiotic sheep they accuse the other side as being.

so, let me see if I understand you.
There is blue AND red koolaid?

Nice to see a voice of reason on this subject.

She sure has suffered like Petreus.

Blow jobs don't count...

I have not been following this too closely. Did she also have a secure email account that she used?

If not, then she is saying she NEVER received or sent any classified emails during her term?

And, TW, a person's grand aspirations should not mitigate the punishment. Losing the office of President is not punishment under the law.

Drnos I agree and didn't say differently. The process needs to play out. If folks are saying anything short of jail is fixed at the beginning of the process their credibility is shot. It's like the crowd that says all formal or "traditional" sources are tainted or bunk so you must ignore them and follow the only real truth which is in a blog supporting my position. You can't argue with it because they've set up a false argument.

I hate Hillary, but believe if there is anything there she will get what she deserves. She has enough enemies she might get more than she deserves. There are just a group of people in here that will jump at anything and call it absolute fact and anything disputing their position is part of some grand conspiracy. It's sad really.

Yes.

I will take your answer meaning that you did more than just have a clearance and handle classified material once a year.

With that being a given, do you feel that Hill could have handled her duties as Secretary of State by using a personal server and not broken any number of classified/COMSEC protocols?

I for one think it is impossible.

+1

Well, she wasn't held accountable in the Benghazi incident.....


but then again she really didn't "do" anything, so maybe the argument "if she did something wrong, she will be held accountable" doesn't really apply in my example.

Like Bill did when he lied to a grand jury?

All they have to do is find a couple ssn's from a few veterans to slap her with sensitive violation charges. I'm sure those are pretty abundant in contrast to the blatant top secret level emails that are sure to exist. At the very least they can pop her with a couple hundred grand plus jailtime for sensitive level information. It's definitely a possibility.

Jjanecka that could happen, but I'm not sure why a cabin ate head would ever receive SSNs. I think it may go deeper than that though. We'll see.

True story - The Bush White House was throwing an event in KC (red dress charity). They collected all the names and SSNs of everyone that we're going to attend for background checks etc. They used the same list for other purposes and accidentally email blasted the list out with the SSNs. No repercussions, no outrage.

If Hillary loses, she will be pardoned. End of story.

Hang on... Are we now citing Michael Bay movies as factual representations? Because that means there's transformers....

It's bad, but it isn't the same. Very different rules for personal data versus for state secrets. There is also a difference between inadvertent exposure data, your example and the intentional mishandling of classified data.

so, you would prefer Americans actually value the institutions that define us, actually value the pillars of our society that sometimes has us send our young to death overseas in order that these pillars be preserved, actually value the system of justice that affords even the lowest among us to not be railroaded by a rush to judgement, and allow the process to follow the same deliberate course we would all want for ourselves even before being charged with a crime?

You. sir, are like a idiot.


As am I.

you really pay attention.

Don't give a crap about a pardon as long as she is not Commander in Chief.

True true..