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frankj1 Offline
#51 Posted: Fri, Apr 15 2016, 10:54 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
I live in Southern California. South of I80. But I'm from Rhode Island... born, raised, and educated.

I don't have to guess who or what I am. I'm a self-sufficient family man that has never asked anyone for anything. Everything I have is due to my own hard work and the grace of God.

I know that anyone born into poverty can become self sufficient because I did it. People now make every excuse in the world why it's okay to take someone else's money because "they have too much, or more than they need". Our country was founded by men who did not like government, and certainly did not like socialism or the redistribution of wealth.

You reap what you sow, says the bible. No work? No eating. Nobody deserves something for nothing. NOBODY. Being liberal doesn't make you smart, it makes you smug... just not sure why.

you should reread. what did they do with the 10% (or whatever %) of what was tithed?
Someone deserves the help.
gummy jones Offline
#52 Posted: Fri, Apr 15 2016, 11:01 PM EST
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Tithing was never forced and generational welfare would have been unfathomable.
frankj1 Offline
#53 Posted: Fri, Apr 15 2016, 11:23 PM EST
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gummy jones wrote:
Tithing was never forced and generational welfare would have been unfathomable.

not about forced, it's about giving when needed.
banderl Offline
#54 Posted: Sat, Apr 16 2016, 9:56 AM EST
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MACS wrote:
I live in Southern California. South of I80. But I'm from Rhode Island... born, raised, and educated.



I know that anyone born into poverty can become self sufficient because I did it. People now make every excuse in the world why it's okay to take someone else's money because "they have too much, or more than they need". Our country was founded by men who did not like government, and certainly did not like socialism or the redistribution of wealth.

You reap what you sow, says the bible. No work? No eating. Nobody deserves something for nothing. NOBODY. Being liberal doesn't make you smart, it makes you smug... just not sure why.



What does this have to do with anything that I said?

What is a liberal?
I want to see if I fit the definition.
Maybe I'm just anti-republican.
banderl Offline
#55 Posted: Sat, Apr 16 2016, 9:58 AM EST
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MACS wrote:
The original post still makes me laugh. As if democrats have nobody who did something felonious, or lied, or cheated, or was a hypocrite about it.

I'm an unashamed fiscal conservative. As far as I am concerned our gov't should use our money to fund national defense, and infrastructure. I would be happy if they'd spend more on schools and offer free college and trade school, like England does... but they'd have to fund it by cutting all those other "free sh*t" programs.



Makes you laugh?
The third highest ranking federal government official was a pedophile.
LOL
gummy jones Offline
#56 Posted: Sat, Apr 16 2016, 12:51 PM EST
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#53 think uncle Bernie will accept that answer?
gummy jones Offline
#57 Posted: Sat, Apr 16 2016, 12:53 PM EST
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#55 I guess the dems didn't learn anything then based on their nominee for the highest ranking job :(
MACS Offline
#58 Posted: Sat, Apr 16 2016, 1:40 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
Makes you laugh?
The third highest ranking federal government official was a pedophile.
LOL


I was laughing at you... not the pedo.
MACS Offline
#59 Posted: Sat, Apr 16 2016, 1:45 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
you should reread. what did they do with the 10% (or whatever %) of what was tithed?
Someone deserves the help.


Tithing was not forced, and the priests provided a service for what they received. I don't have an issue with helping people. I do it all the time. In fact, I just made 2 donations to goodwill, and I'll be making more.

I can't hate welfare completely, it fed me and put clothes on my back... but I also watched my household, and all those in the section 8 households around me, abuse it. It is rampant. The government should not be in charge of social programs.
tonygraz Offline
#60 Posted: Sat, Apr 16 2016, 3:18 PM EST
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Yes and some of those priests got arrested for those services performed.
sd72 Offline
#61 Posted: Sat, Apr 16 2016, 3:27 PM EST
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Why, did they charge for said services?
MACS Offline
#62 Posted: Sat, Apr 16 2016, 3:53 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
Yes and some of those priests got arrested for those services performed.


I'm certainly not defending priests who preyed on kids, but A) the vast majority do not, and B) we were talking about the old testament, where the priests were allowed to take their food from the sacrifices tithed by others... which were supposed to be the good stuff, first fruits and fatted calfs and such. But they did the Lord's work which prevented them from sowing and reaping their own food.
frankj1 Offline
#63 Posted: Sat, Apr 16 2016, 4:36 PM EST
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MACS and Gummy, I was simply responding to a small part of a post. It wasn't about Sanders, redistribution of wealth, taxes, forced tithing, or the Welfare system,

it was a gentle suggestion to reread the Book since I felt it was misquoted as saying..."you reap what you sow, Nobody deserves something for nothing. NOBODY".

I am sure you are not against giving, my friends. Just felt a few words were lined up and interpreted incorrectly.
MACS Offline
#64 Posted: Sat, Apr 16 2016, 5:29 PM EST
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I ain't mad atcha Frank.

I know sometimes I am wrong, but to my credit I am willing to change my mind when presented with information that warrants it. I value hard work and independence, but I know not everyone is capable of it. I also have no issues with charity, I just don't think the gov't should be in that business. They're essentially buying votes with our money.
banderl Offline
#65 Posted: Sat, Apr 16 2016, 6:00 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
I was laughing at you... not the pedo.



Just reporting the news in a fair and balanced manner.
banderl Offline
#66 Posted: Sat, Apr 16 2016, 6:04 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Tithing was not forced, and the priests provided a service for what they received. I don't have an issue with helping people. I do it all the time. In fact, I just made 2 donations to goodwill, and I'll be making more.

I can't hate welfare completely, it fed me and put clothes on my back... but I also watched my household, and all those in the section 8 households around me, abuse it. It is rampant. The government should not be in charge of social programs.




So why or how was your household abusing welfare?

FYI, never been on welfare, been on unemployment but I paid into that.

I believe that welfare should be a short term solution, maybe a year or two.
MACS Offline
#67 Posted: Sat, Apr 16 2016, 8:11 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
So why or how was your household abusing welfare?

FYI, never been on welfare, been on unemployment but I paid into that.

I believe that welfare should be a short term solution, maybe a year or two.


I don't disagree with you on short term, but again, gov't screws up anything they attempt and fraud is always an issue.

Working under the table, mostly, and not reporting the income was the main issue.
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#68 Posted: Sat, Apr 16 2016, 9:33 PM EST
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gummy jones wrote:
Tithing was never forced and generational welfare would have been unfathomable.




I was asked to pay or leave a church once... in fact, it was the last church I attended... Mellow
tonygraz Offline
#69 Posted: Sat, Apr 16 2016, 9:42 PM EST
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Charitable organizations often give little of what they get to their cause. When asked for a contribution, I request a financial statement and a list of the top highest paid workers on the charity. I have yet to get that list from anyone. The Cancer Fund of America spends all of 1% of what it takes in for cause items.
tonygraz Offline
#70 Posted: Sat, Apr 16 2016, 9:44 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I was asked to pay or leave a church once... in fact, it was the last church I attended... Mellow


I heard you ate the collection basket and drank the holy water before they threw you out.
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#71 Posted: Sat, Apr 16 2016, 9:51 PM EST
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nope.. preacher requested a meeting with me and laid it on the line.. I could take a hint.. Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#72 Posted: Sat, Apr 16 2016, 11:15 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
I ain't mad atcha Frank.

I know sometimes I am wrong, but to my credit I am willing to change my mind when presented with information that warrants it. I value hard work and independence, but I know not everyone is capable of it. I also have no issues with charity, I just don't think the gov't should be in that business. They're essentially buying votes with our money.

No problem here either
gummy jones Offline
#73 Posted: Sun, Apr 17 2016, 6:51 AM EST
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#68 if it is as you say then you should have left that place. I just wish you would have found a good one after. Most of my friends who left "the church" have done so because some one wronged them. I just try to encourage them to realize that it was a messy human who hurt them and not Jesus.
gummy jones Offline
#74 Posted: Sun, Apr 17 2016, 6:52 AM EST
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#63 I'm raging mad at you frank grrrr. Drool
tonygraz Offline
#75 Posted: Sun, Apr 17 2016, 9:27 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
nope.. preacher requested a meeting with me and laid it on the line.. I could take a hint.. Mellow


In my former short term stint as a church goer, I was assigned the task of going out and soliciting pledges from those who belonged or were known to attend the church. After the pastor of the church left to lead another congregation, I stopped going to church. After a decade or so of pastor changes, the church finally closed and is now for sale.
A Catholic church in a town I lived in had a building project and expected a certain amount of donations from every parishioner. For those who did not meet the expectation. a list was put up in the church lobby of their names and amount still expected from them.
frankj1 Offline
#76 Posted: Sun, Apr 17 2016, 10:13 AM EST
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gummy jones wrote:
#63 I'm raging mad at you frank grrrr. Drool

so then there's probably no chance I could interest you in buying Israeli Bonds?

HA!
gummy jones Offline
#77 Posted: Sun, Apr 17 2016, 3:43 PM EST
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Not talking
tonygraz Offline
#78 Posted: Sun, Apr 17 2016, 6:33 PM EST
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No bondage for Gummy.
Carib1 Offline
#79 Posted: Thu, Apr 21 2016, 1:45 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
I live in Southern California. South of I80. But I'm from Rhode Island... born, raised, and educated.

I don't have to guess who or what I am. I'm a self-sufficient family man that has never asked anyone for anything. Everything I have is due to my own hard work and the grace of God.

I know that anyone born into poverty can become self sufficient because I did it. People now make every excuse in the world why it's okay to take someone else's money because "they have too much, or more than they need". Our country was founded by men who did not like government, and certainly did not like socialism or the redistribution of wealth.

You reap what you sow, says the bible. No work? No eating. Nobody deserves something for nothing. NOBODY. Being liberal doesn't make you smart, it makes you smug... just not sure why.



You really should take it easy on them there Liberals. Liberalism is a mental disorder. It's not nice to make fun of
people with mental issues and such......
frankj1 Offline
#80 Posted: Thu, Apr 21 2016, 3:56 PM EST
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Carib1 wrote:
You really should take it easy on them there Liberals. Liberalism is a mental disorder. It's not nice to make fun of
people with mental issues and such......

I am blown away by your science.
teedubbya Offline
#81 Posted: Thu, Apr 21 2016, 4:06 PM EST
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yea he blows alright
tonygraz Offline
#82 Posted: Thu, Apr 21 2016, 4:46 PM EST
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He thinks relying on facts is a mental disorder.
DrafterX Offline
#83 Posted: Thu, Apr 21 2016, 4:47 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
He thinks making up facts is a mental disorder.



Think
gummy jones Offline
#84 Posted: Thu, Apr 21 2016, 5:03 PM EST
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Ill have to think about that fact
banderl Offline
#85 Posted: Thu, Apr 21 2016, 5:33 PM EST
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Carib1 wrote:
You really should take it easy on them there Liberals. Liberalism is a mental disorder. It's not nice to make fun of
people with mental issues and such......



This thread is about a Republican Speaker of the House who greatly enjoyed blowing teenage boys and this clown says that Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Probably has a Denny poster in his room to whack off to.
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#86 Posted: Thu, Apr 21 2016, 5:33 PM EST
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Carib1 wrote:
You really should take it easy on them there Liberals. Liberalism is a mental disorder.....

It's for true - many amerkins knowed that all that high thinkin' them liberbulls do just ain't right....

Why, they's so sick in da head they thinks change is a good thing!
Burner02 Offline
#87 Posted: Thu, Apr 21 2016, 6:07 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
This thread is about a Republican Speaker of the House who greatly enjoyed blowing teenage boys and this clown says that Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Probably has a Denny poster in his room to whack off to.




Lets cut to the chase, are you more concerned that he is a POS or a Republican POS? You would not be within a hundred miles of this thread if he were a liberal POS.
banderl Offline
#88 Posted: Thu, Apr 21 2016, 6:15 PM EST
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If you can find any instance of of Democrat Speaker of the house (Other than Nancy Pelosi) who liked to blow teenage boys, feel free to post. I'll be more than happy to contribute to your thread.
I'll stand by.
frankj1 Offline
#89 Posted: Thu, Apr 21 2016, 6:42 PM EST
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Burner02 wrote:
Lets cut to the chase, are you more concerned that he is a POS or a Republican POS? You would not be within a hundred miles of this thread if he was a liberal POS.

you. sir, are making the same point I was making to Carib.
No side owns morality either.

would you ever take a comment like Carib's to task? If not, why lecture Banderl?
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#90 Posted: Thu, Apr 21 2016, 6:56 PM EST
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In fairness, there is a different the level of hypocrisy here - Liberal don't care about LGBT other than to say leave them alone. The conservatives are out spoken against sodomy, homosexual extrusions, and (in this case) eating chain.
banderl Offline
#91 Posted: Thu, Apr 21 2016, 7:01 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
you. sir, are making the same point I was making to Carib.
No side owns morality either.

would you ever take a comment like Carib's to task? If not, why lecture Banderl?


Of course he wouldn't, Frank.
That wouldn't fit his agenda.
Try to take the high road by calling them Republicans, yet they like to call a Democrat a Liberal, as if it's some kind of grade school cut down.
He doesn't know my politics well enough to call me anything other than I'm not usually a Republican.
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#92 Posted: Thu, Apr 21 2016, 7:03 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
In fairness, there is a different the level of hypocrisy here - Liberal don't care about LGBT other than to say leave them alone. The conservatives are out spoken against sodomy, homosexual extrusions, and (in this case) eating chain.



I'm confused now.
Are you saying that they support blowing teenage boys?
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#93 Posted: Thu, Apr 21 2016, 7:04 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
Of course he wouldn't, Frank.
That wouldn't fit his agenda.
Try to take the high road by calling them Republicans, yet they like to call a Democrat a Liberal, as if it's some kind of grade school cut down.
He doesn't know my politics well enough to call me anything other than I'm not usually a Republican.

Truthfully, I am pretty cool with Burner. Was just making a point to remind all of the unnecessary stuff such as Carib is posting as a way of pandering for membership with the majority here.
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#94 Posted: Thu, Apr 21 2016, 7:06 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
I'm confused now.
Are you saying that they support blowing teenage boys?

No- I'm sure he just blows them - not supports them. I mean, money is money.
banderl Offline
#95 Posted: Thu, Apr 21 2016, 7:11 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
No- I'm sure he just blows them - not supports them. I mean, money is money.



Poor CROS!
Brewha Offline
#96 Posted: Thu, Apr 21 2016, 7:17 PM EST
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I just hope Frank is accepted by the majority here.

And that he washes off good after the pandering.
Isn't that illegal in Oklahoma?
banderl Offline
#97 Posted: Thu, Apr 21 2016, 7:26 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
I just hope Frank is accepted by the majority here.

And that he washes off good after the pandering.
Isn't that illegal in Oklahoma?



Poor Frank!
Heard that he only washes off when he makes a batch of Old Man Soup™.
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#98 Posted: Thu, Apr 21 2016, 7:44 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
you. sir, are making the same point I was making to Carib.
No side owns morality either.

would you ever take a comment like Carib's to task? If not, why lecture Banderl?



To be honest Frank, I had not read Carib's post until after you called me out. Now that I have, I would agree that you have a valid point.

So handle it.
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#99 Posted: Thu, Apr 21 2016, 7:57 PM EST
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You guys are adorable, god bless your get along little hearts.

I miss RICKAMAVEN pissing in the pool and licking everyone's jello so he'd get more lime.

*sigh*
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#100 Posted: Thu, Apr 21 2016, 8:43 PM EST
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