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DrMaddVibe Offline
#1 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 9:38 AM EST
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1st it was 20 now 50...Thank you President Clown Shoes for making it easier for islamofascists to come here and create their 7th Century funhouses.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#2 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 9:45 AM EST
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Shoebat.com reported on the threat three days ago.
ISIS Muslim terrorists released a statement on their plan to attack Florida, and even put out a list with the names of people in Florida that they plan on killing. According to one report:

A pro-Isis group has released a hit list with the names of more than 8,000 peoplemostly Americans.

More than 600-people live in Florida, and one security expert believes that many of those targeted live in Palm Beach County and on the Treasure Coast.

The “United Cyber Caliphate” that hacked U.S. Central Command, 54,000 Twitter accounts and threatened President Barack Obama is the same pro-Isis group that’s reportedly created a “kill list” with the names, addresses and emails of thousands of civilian Americans.

Reports of the list came to light online when Vocativ reported the list was shared via the encrypted app, Telegram, and called on supporters to kill.

Former FBI agent-turned lawyer Stuart Kaplan says the threat is especially alarming, because the people on this list are civilians who don’t have the security necessary to protect themselves.

“It’s going to create some hysteria,” he said…

The Pulse nightclub killer was identified as Omar Mateen.


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/isis-announced-florida-attack-three-days-ago/
Burner02 Offline
#3 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 9:45 AM EST
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Could be work place violence, one just never knows until Barry makes the call.
Speyside Offline
#4 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 9:54 AM EST
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A sad day. May they rest in peace.
DrafterX Offline
#5 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 10:06 AM EST
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Damn.... Sad
danmdevries Offline
#6 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 10:35 AM EST
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Thought it wasn't allowed to be called terrorist if they had a name like his, it's just practicing one's view on the world or their religious beliefs and we need to tolerate them.
Brewha Offline
#7 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 11:23 AM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
1st it was 20 now 50...Thank you President Clown Shoes for making it easier for islamofascists to come here and create their 7th Century funhouses.

You're going to blame the president for the mass murders?

Let me ask you a question DMV; What are you, stupid?
ZRX1200 Offline
#8 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 11:44 AM EST
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http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/06/12/joy-reid-on-fl-shooting-the-core-issue-is-how-easy-it-is-to-get-a-gun/
Brewha Offline
#9 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 11:50 AM EST
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So it looks like the Kid was from New York and had some deep issues with gays. So he locked and loaded, went to a gay bar and killed all he could. So not international terroisum - Domestic hate crime.
Brewha Offline
#10 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 11:54 AM EST
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As icing on the cake, Dan Patric, our Texas Lt. Governor tweeted the bible verse about "you shall reap what you sow" regarding the shooting. What a POS.
jeferris Offline
#11 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 12:14 PM EST
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My daughter lives 3 miles from there....Please pray for the families and all those affected.

Some info on the "kid"...
http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2016/06/12/exclusive-top-gazan-jihadist-claims-orlando-shooter-terror-group-member/
DrMaddVibe Offline
#12 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 12:55 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
You're going to blame the president for the mass murders?

Let me ask you a question DMV; What are you, stupid?



Yes, I do blame the President and his entire administration.

They have turned their collective backs time and time again. Now he wants Syrian refugees, that there is NO WAY they can be properly vetted to come here en masse.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/white-house-wants-increase-of-syrian-refugees/article/2584498

Islamic fundamentalist terrorist attacks on US soil? Check.

Gun running in multiple nations? Check.

Military boots on the ground in over 90% of the continent of Africa? Check.

Wars still raging AND escalating in Iraq and Afghanistan? Check.

Reading never was your strong suit anyways so please by all means call me whatever names you want. You fail to grasp reality in every sense of the word...time and again. Don't ever read the links...no...shoot the messenger.


Meanwhile, US Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) cited intelligence sources to say that there “appears to be” a link to Islamic radicalism and ISIS.

“I asked the FBI if there was any connection to Islamic radicalism. There appears to be,” Nelson said. “But they are naturally cautious and waiting throughout to see if if this is, facts emerge.”

“At this point, this is an incident, as I can see it, we can certainly classify as a domestic terror incident,” Jerry Demings of the Orange County Sheriff’s Office said.

The shooting — one of the worst mass shootings in US history — left at least 50 people dead, including the gunman, and more than 53 wounded, officials said.

http://nypost.com/2016/06/12/suspected-gunman-in-florida-gay-club-mass-shooting-idd/
ZRX1200 Offline
#13 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 1:14 PM EST
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And he was a registered Democrat.
Speyside Offline
#14 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 1:39 PM EST
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The gunman made a 911 call from inside the club pledging alligence to ISIS and ISIS has claimed him as one of theirs according to ABC news.
Burner02 Offline
#15 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 1:41 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
And he was a registered Democrat.




That does it, we need to keep guns from the Democrats.
8trackdisco Offline
#16 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 1:59 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
So it looks like the Kid was from New York and had some deep issues with gays. So he locked and loaded, went to a gay bar and killed all he could. So not international terroisum - Domestic hate crime.


They hate Americans
They hate gays.


They get a two for one sale.

ISIS is deplorable, although they couldn't have (from their perspective) done this better. In addition to the above.

-the person was born in the USA.
-it can be labeled a homegrown event
-Obama is now just an executive order away from taking guns away from Americans.
-once regular Americans don't have guns, ISIS will be able to kill more Americans, faster.

Brilliant strategy.

Get ready for our Commander and Chief tear the fabric of America further.
jjanecka Offline
#17 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 2:06 PM EST
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Isn't there a case in California right now claiming that the 2nd ammendment doesn't guarantee you the right to own a gun?
Brewha Offline
#18 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 2:09 PM EST
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Burner02 wrote:
That does it, we need to keep guns from the Democrats.

And all people in gay bars should be armed to prevent this kind of thing.


Ah, the Cbid logic train is under full steam.....
DrafterX Offline
#19 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 2:12 PM EST
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Democrat ehh..?? A Trump supporter would never do something like this. ... Mellow
8trackdisco Offline
#20 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 2:17 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Yes, I do blame the President and his entire administration.

They have turned their collective backs time and time again. Now he wants Syrian refugees, that there is NO WAY they can be properly vetted to come here en masse.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/white-house-wants-increase-of-syrian-refugees/article/2584498

Islamic fundamentalist terrorist attacks on US soil? Check. .... They started under Bush

Gun running in multiple nations? Check. .......started under Reagan and Ollie North.

Military boots on the ground in over 90% of the continent of Africa? Check.

Wars still raging AND escalating in Iraq and Afghanistan? Check. ........... They started under Bush.

Reading never was your strong suit anyways so please by all means call me whatever names you want. You fail to grasp reality in every sense of the word...time and again. Don't ever read the links...no...shoot the messenger.


Meanwhile, US Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) cited intelligence sources to say that there “appears to be” a link to Islamic radicalism and ISIS.

“I asked the FBI if there was any connection to Islamic radicalism. There appears to be,” Nelson said. “But they are naturally cautious and waiting throughout to see if if this is, facts emerge.”

“At this point, this is an incident, as I can see it, we can certainly classify as a domestic terror incident,” Jerry Demings of the Orange County Sheriff’s Office said.

The shooting — one of the worst mass shootings in US history — left at least 50 people dead, including the gunman, and more than 53 wounded, officials said.

http://nypost.com/2016/06/12/suspected-gunman-in-florida-gay-club-mass-shooting-idd/


Although I agree with the concept Doctor, do make the Reagan & Bush amendments to your rant for clarity. Unless the Fox News rot has gotten to you.
Burner02 Offline
#21 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 2:29 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
And all people in gay bars should be armed to prevent this kind of thing.


Ah, the Cbid logic train is under full steam.....




Only if you say so.
Burner02 Offline
#22 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 2:36 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
So it looks like the Kid was from New York and had some deep issues with gays. So he locked and loaded, went to a gay bar and killed all he could. So not international terroisum - Domestic hate crime.



So, domestic hate crime is what you get when the killer is stating "Allah Akbar" on his 911 call.


O did mention terror and hate in his news conference but no mention of radical Islam, guess it is a hate crime.
Brewha Offline
#23 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 2:36 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Democrat ehh..?? A Trump supporter would never do something like this. ... Mellow

Because they are scared to go into gay bars??? Think
victor809 Offline
#24 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 2:38 PM EST
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Well... Not when using their real name.
victor809 Offline
#25 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 2:41 PM EST
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In the end tho, this is just another tragic occurrence, but nothing to get too riled up over.

Part of freedom means we will have soft spots where this sort of tragedy can occur. It's sad, but in no way means we should change our day to day life.

People should still be allowed to have high capacity fully automatic weapons of any sort, and people should still be allowed to be Muslim.

I'm gonna chalk this up to a "meh". The guy is dead, it's a wash.
Brewha Offline
#26 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 2:47 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Well... Not when using their real name.

LOL
MACS Offline
#27 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 2:55 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
In the end tho, this is just another tragic occurrence, but nothing to get too riled up over.

Part of freedom means we will have soft spots where this sort of tragedy can occur. It's sad, but in no way means we should change our day to day life.

People should still be allowed to have high capacity fully automatic weapons of any sort, and people should still be allowed to be Muslim.

I'm gonna chalk this up to a "meh". The guy is dead, it's a wash.


Not quite a wash. If 50 other muslims died with him and 53 were injured, it'd be a wash.
victor809 Offline
#28 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 3:03 PM EST
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100% of the people planning and executing the attack are dead.

If you want to go kill 50 random Muslims because of this... Well that might be a trumpism
Speyside Offline
#29 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 3:14 PM EST
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That is a very narrow point of view. He had been investigated by the FBI, he pledged alligence to ISIS, and ISIS has taken responsibility for his actions. I would simply state the dead and wounded deserve justice.
Mattie B Offline
#30 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 3:15 PM EST
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For the life of me I can't understand our gun laws.


How was this guy on the FBI list in 2013 and buys a gun a few weeks ago??????


Why make new laws when we don't do the job current laws should do?
This will wrongly be made into a political issue.

The only ones that suffer from new legislation are the honest gun owners.

Man this crap pisses me off!
Speyside Offline
#31 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 3:19 PM EST
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Mattie, the FBI stated their investigation was inconclusive.
MACS Offline
#32 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 3:21 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
100% of the people planning and executing the attack are dead.

If you want to go kill 50 random Muslims because of this... Well that might be a trumpism


You have more info than the folks investigating this, eh?

How about I edit my post to say if 50 isis muslims were dead and 53 of them injured it'd be a wash?
victor809 Offline
#33 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 3:30 PM EST
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You're right macs, we don't know if there were others involved in the planning. Seems unlikely to me, not a really sophisticated attack... Walk in, shoot until you can't, die. If that takes more than one person to come up with.... We're really overestimating our enemy.

But if more people are involved, kill them too...
8trackdisco Offline
#34 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 4:25 PM EST
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Obama needs to close all gay bars. It would stop gay bar shootings.

If he doesn't, it shows he hates gays and wants them all shot.

Bassard.
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#35 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 5:08 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
1st it was 20 now 50...Thank you President Clown Shoes for making it easier for islamofascists to come here and create their 7th Century funhouses.


Fifty people are dead and you're outraged.... at your perception of the President's response? Spare us your crocodile tears.
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#36 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 5:13 PM EST
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The news said the gay bar in Tulsa is closed tonite...guess they're a little paranoid. .. Mellow
riverdog Offline
#37 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 6:07 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Yes, I do blame the president and his entire administration.[/b][/i]


And you think that's a reasoned response? Jesus H. Christ! It's that kind of thinking from someone who otherwise seems lucid that really makes me sad for this country.
Gene363 Offline
#38 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 6:15 PM EST
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With Orlando shooting victims still dying our feckless leader and his designated replacement, can only talk about taking guns away from innocent US citizens. Nothing about the islamic sh|tbag that did the killing, nothing about the FBI knowing about this sh|tbag and nothing about not arming more fighters in the Middle East.
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#39 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 6:53 PM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
With Orlando shooting victims still dying our feckless leader and his designated replacement, can only talk about taking guns away from innocent US citizens. Nothing about the islamic sh|tbag that did the killing, nothing about the FBI knowing about this sh|tbag and nothing about not arming more fighters in the Middle East.


I'm pretty sure arming or not arming more fighters in the middle east wouldn't make any difference in this. Seems like you're just as guilty as they are in just using this as an excuse for your own agenda.
Brewha Offline
#40 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 7:36 PM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
With Orlando shooting victims still dying our feckless leader and his designated replacement, can only talk about taking guns away from innocent US citizens. Nothing about the islamic sh|tbag that did the killing, nothing about the FBI knowing about this sh|tbag and nothing about not arming more fighters in the Middle East.

Guns nothing - Obama's gonna take your steak knives, jumper cables, and all your old VHS tapes.

That's right Gene, them liberbulls wanna make sure that you can't even lock your front door.

And this is where us good people have to band together - Anyone should be able to have any weapon that they like sos as to feel safe. Why can't you buy Clamores and grenades at Walmart? Liberals. And they are keeping us from buying plasma rifles in the 40 watt range.

Face it, if them gays had properly armed themselves that mooslum woulda never had a chance. Why is it even leagal for a person to go into a saloon without a side arm? Don't they know they might get shot????
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#41 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 8:00 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
I'm pretty sure arming or not arming more fighters in the middle east wouldn't make any difference in this. Seems like you're just as guilty as they are in just using this as an excuse for your own agenda.


One of the head scratchers for me is us stopping jihadists from leaving the US for jihadi-land. Easier to pop them in the sand with out Air Force video gamers @ Nellis.

Instead, we force them to stay here, and they go lone wolf.

Fly them non-stop from New York to Fallujah. Maybe they get a real bad peanut allergy.

If not that, maybe get a depressed German pilot to fly them half way.
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#42 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 9:06 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
The news said the gay bar in Tulsa is closed tonite...guess they're a little paranoid. .. Mellow


Drinking at home tonight,eh?Anxious
Burner02 Offline
#43 Posted: Sun, Jun 12 2016, 9:19 PM EST
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If I had a radical Islamic son, he would look like Omar Mir Mateen.

Signed, Barry "O"
Gene363 Offline
#44 Posted: Mon, Jun 13 2016, 12:17 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Guns nothing - Obama's gonna take your steak knives, jumper cables, and all your old VHS tapes.

That's right Gene, them liberbulls wanna make sure that you can't even lock your front door.

And this is where us good people have to band together - Anyone should be able to have any weapon that they like sos as to feel safe. Why can't you buy Clamores and grenades at Walmart? Liberals. And they are keeping us from buying plasma rifles in the 40 watt range.

Face it, if them gays had properly armed themselves that mooslum woulda never had a chance. Why is it even leagal for a person to go into a saloon without a side arm? Don't they know they might get shot????


Speaking of knee jerks, apparently you didn't listen to what Obummer and Hildog said about the shooting.

Brewha, why do armed LGBTs scare you? And yes, if they were armed they may have been able to shoot back, or do you believe LGBTs cannot shoot?
Gene363 Offline
#45 Posted: Mon, Jun 13 2016, 12:24 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
I'm pretty sure arming or not arming more fighters in the middle east wouldn't make any difference in this. Seems like you're just as guilty as they are in just using this as an excuse for your own agenda.


And, I'm pretty sure more gun laws are not going to stop the goat humpers from committing more massacres.
8trackdisco Offline
#46 Posted: Mon, Jun 13 2016, 5:23 AM EST
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Now it's time to make tough decisions.

Maybe we can double the number of security people at gay bars by taking them away from the schools.

We need to protect the lgbt community above all else.

Killing homosexuals is a hate crime with enhanced penalties. Doing the same to regular school kids is not.

At least our politicians have made their priorities clear.
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#47 Posted: Mon, Jun 13 2016, 5:48 AM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
And, I'm pretty sure more gun laws are not going to stop the goat humpers from committing more massacres.



Careful, using logic could be dangerous.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#48 Posted: Mon, Jun 13 2016, 6:15 AM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
Although I agree with the concept Doctor, do make the Reagan & Bush amendments to your rant for clarity. Unless the Fox News rot has gotten to you.



Actually I was referring to Post 9-11, and Operation Fast & Furious as well as Benghazi CIA safe house often confused as an embassy but thanks..
DrMaddVibe Offline
#49 Posted: Mon, Jun 13 2016, 6:19 AM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
Now it's time to make tough decisions.

Maybe we can double the number of security people at gay bars by taking them away from the schools.

We need to protect the lgbt community above all else.

Killing homosexuals is a hate crime with enhanced penalties. Doing the same to regular school kids is not.

At least our politicians have made their priorities clear.



President Kennedy put a man on the moon.

President Obama put a man in a girls restroom.
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#50 Posted: Mon, Jun 13 2016, 7:09 AM EST
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And the NRA used bribery and propaganda to keep it easy to buy guns and ammo.
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