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DrafterX Offline
#51 Posted: Thu, Jul 14 2016, 10:08 AM EST
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Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said Thursday she regrets the critical comments she made about presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, after facing a bipartisan backlash.

“On reflection, my recent remarks in response to press inquiries were ill-advised and I regret making them. Judges should avoid commenting on a candidate for public office. In the future I will be more circumspect,” she said in a statement.

Ginsburg had given an interview to The New York Times saying she didn’t “even want to contemplate” the country and court under a President Trump.

Film at 11.... Mellow
ZRX1200 Offline
#52 Posted: Thu, Jul 14 2016, 10:24 AM EST
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Even the NYT opposed her saying what she did.....good to hear her ^ say that.
DrafterX Offline
#53 Posted: Thu, Jul 14 2016, 10:31 AM EST
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I heard they had to cut off a couple of her toes but she finally came around... Mellow
Brewha Offline
#54 Posted: Thu, Jul 14 2016, 10:34 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said Thursday she regrets the critical comments she made about presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, after facing a bipartisan backlash.

“On reflection, my recent remarks in response to press inquiries were ill-advised and I regret making them. Judges should avoid commenting on a candidate for public office. In the future I will be more circumspect,” she said in a statement.

Ginsburg had given an interview to The New York Times saying she didn’t “even want to contemplate” the country and court under a President Trump.

Film at 11.... Mellow

So, just like Trump - she can change her mind too.

Kewl!
DrafterX Offline
#55 Posted: Thu, Jul 14 2016, 10:36 AM EST
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She never apologized tho... Not talking
Brewha Offline
#56 Posted: Thu, Jul 14 2016, 10:40 AM EST
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Neither did Trump....
DrafterX Offline
#57 Posted: Thu, Jul 14 2016, 10:43 AM EST
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for..?? Huh
Brewha Offline
#58 Posted: Thu, Jul 14 2016, 12:28 PM EST
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Wow - you really do watch Fox.
Exclusively....
DrafterX Offline
#59 Posted: Thu, Jul 14 2016, 12:29 PM EST
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actually I get most of my news here... Mellow
Brewha Offline
#60 Posted: Thu, Jul 14 2016, 12:44 PM EST
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Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#61 Posted: Thu, Jul 14 2016, 1:00 PM EST
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I try not to google stuff tho... Mellow
Brewha Offline
#62 Posted: Thu, Jul 14 2016, 1:03 PM EST
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Just snopes?
DrafterX Offline
#63 Posted: Thu, Jul 14 2016, 1:20 PM EST
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you can only believe snopes on certain stuff.... Mellow
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#64 Posted: Thu, Jul 14 2016, 1:24 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Obama will pardon her.... Mellow


For what? Poor judgement? fog
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#65 Posted: Thu, Jul 14 2016, 2:12 PM EST
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"Sorry seems to be the hardest word...."Whistle
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#66 Posted: Thu, Jul 14 2016, 2:14 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
So very true.....






ALSO very true!!!


All this and I just discovered...it's BASTILLE DAY!!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekoxIb85rww
DrMaddVibe Offline
#67 Posted: Thu, Jul 14 2016, 2:20 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
you can only believe snopes on certain stuff.... Mellow



If it fits a left leaning political agenda...otherwise..No.

They circle the wagons.
Brewha Offline
#68 Posted: Thu, Jul 14 2016, 3:02 PM EST
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This just in:

In a further response to Ginsburg's comments and lack of apology, Trump tweeted:

"THERE WILL BE HELL TOUPEE"
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#69 Posted: Thu, Jul 14 2016, 3:03 PM EST
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Mellow
calavera Offline
#70 Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2016, 12:45 PM EST
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Her remarks were inappropriate.

If any cases involving Trump come before the Supreme Court, she had best recuse herself. Otherwise, she will open the door to accusations of not being impartial.

Poor form on her part.





J
banderl Offline
#71 Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2016, 1:11 PM EST
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http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/03/18/scalia.recusal/
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#72 Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2016, 5:59 PM EST
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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/6-other-times-justices-came-under-fire-being-too-political-n609416
teedubbya Offline
#73 Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2016, 6:08 PM EST
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Calavera I agree with you. But I can't help but think the other judges that have similar views on either side but kept it to themselves won't have to recuse themselves. Not being contrarian just an observation.
tailgater Offline
#74 Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2016, 7:08 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/03/18/scalia.recusal/




Scalia hunting with Cheney is not only a poor comparison, but it also shows that Scalia lived dangerously.
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#75 Posted: Fri, Jul 15 2016, 7:21 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Scalia hunting with Cheney is not only a poor comparison, but it also shows that Scalia lived dangerously.



That was posted in response to a poster insisting that Ginsberg recuse herself if a Trump case came before the SC.


She could use Scallia's argument:
"I do not believe my impartiality can reasonably be questioned," Scalia said in a 21-page memorandum, rejecting suggestions of an appearance of a conflict of interest.

So I would say that it's an excellent comparison.
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#76 Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2016, 7:25 AM EST
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banderl wrote:
That was posted in response to a poster insisting that Ginsberg recuse herself if a Trump case came before the SC.


She could use Scallia's argument:
"I do not believe my impartiality can reasonably be questioned," Scalia said in a 21-page memorandum, rejecting suggestions of an appearance of a conflict of interest.

So I would say that it's an excellent comparison.




HE WENT HUNTING with the guy......he is NOT on record making negative commentary about an individual running for the highest office in the land. The two issues are not even remotely comparable....IMHO
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#77 Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2016, 8:17 AM EST
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Speyside wrote:
I think the Supreme Court is not supposed to show political bias. I cannot remember any Supreme Court member being so blatantly biased. Yes there are liberal and conservative members of the court, and I would want a conservative member to step down if they disparaged Hillary Clinton in a similar manner.


I think she should've kept her thoughts to herself but it is laughable to think that the justices on the Supreme Court are not politically biased. Hell, they are appointed based on their political biases. fog
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#78 Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2016, 9:28 AM EST
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banderl wrote:
That was posted in response to a poster insisting that Ginsberg recuse herself if a Trump case came before the SC.


She could use Scallia's argument:
"I do not believe my impartiality can reasonably be questioned," Scalia said in a 21-page memorandum, rejecting suggestions of an appearance of a conflict of interest.

So I would say that it's an excellent comparison.


I hear what you're saying, but the two are completely different.
Consider that you're the boss in a company and there is a new position open.
Are you more likely to give undeserved favor to a friend? Or to dismiss a person you dislike and have no respect for?

It's not even close.
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#79 Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2016, 9:36 AM EST
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TG, I like what you did, but I would change the analogy a little. No disrespect intended.

Most friends of the boss will try to do the best they possibly can do. Most people who dislike the boss and have no respect for him will try to stab him in the back every chance they get.
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#80 Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2016, 3:16 PM EST
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How about SD O'connor?

Sandy felt that that the election of Gore was "terrible" and said so in a public setting.
She didn't recuse herself from the Bush/Gore case and was part of the 5-4 majority for Bush .

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/07/ruth-bader-ginsburg-donald-trump-supreme-court-politics-history-214044
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#81 Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2016, 4:54 PM EST
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That's a fair comparison.
tailgater Offline
#82 Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2016, 8:02 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
TG, I like what you did, but I would change the analogy a little. No disrespect intended.

Most friends of the boss will try to do the best they possibly can do. Most people who dislike the boss and have no respect for him will try to stab him in the back every chance they get.


True. True.
tailgater Offline
#83 Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2016, 8:05 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
How about SD O'connor?

Sandy felt that that the election of Gore was "terrible" and said so in a public setting.
She didn't recuse herself from the Bush/Gore case and was part of the 5-4 majority for Bush .

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/07/ruth-bader-ginsburg-donald-trump-supreme-court-politics-history-214044


Didn't open the link, but from what you say above I'd say that's a great comparison.

Question:
Are you saying that "therefore it's OK that Ginsburg is anti-Trump"?

Because my take from the Bush analogy is that Sandra should have recused herself.
We should stop doing the wrong thing, rather than use previous mistakes as precedent.
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#84 Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2016, 8:08 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Didn't open the link, but from what you say above I'd say that's a great comparison.

Question:
Are you saying that "therefore it's OK that Ginsburg is anti-Trump"?

Because my take from the Bush analogy is that Sandra should have recused herself.
We should stop doing the wrong thing, rather than use previous mistakes as precedent.


It appears that the precedent is not to recuse yourself.
Should Ginsberg be the first?
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#85 Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2016, 8:29 PM EST
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In theory yes, in reality we know the answer is no.
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#86 Posted: Sat, Jul 16 2016, 10:52 PM EST
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I'd agree with tailgater.
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#87 Posted: Sun, Jul 17 2016, 7:55 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Didn't open the link, but from what you say above I'd say that's a great comparison.

Question:
Are you saying that "therefore it's OK that Ginsburg is anti-Trump"?

Because my take from the Bush analogy is that Sandra should have recused herself.
We should stop doing the wrong thing, rather than use previous mistakes as precedent.





He's saying YES.....two wrongs DO make a right!!!!! He's engaging in elementary grade politics....that's all.


Buckwheat wrote:
I think she should've kept her thoughts to herself but it is laughable to think that the justices on the Supreme Court are not politically biased. Hell, they are appointed based on their political biases. fog



Unfortunately....Julian pretty well nailed it right here^^^^
teedubbya Offline
#88 Posted: Sun, Jul 17 2016, 7:56 AM EST
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Lol that happens all the time in here. It's only called elementary grade when you disagree.
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#89 Posted: Sun, Jul 17 2016, 8:02 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Lol that happens all the time in here. It's only called elementary grade when you disagree.





Examples TW??? or just having fun? You should see some of the really nice PM's that he sent me the last time we " disagreed on something " he's a REAL CLASSY GUY
teedubbya Offline
#90 Posted: Sun, Jul 17 2016, 8:27 AM EST
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I don't know or care anything about that nor does it have anything to do with my comment.

As for examples you need not look far. One was pointed out within minutes. But if you seriously doubt the accuracy of what I said you haven't been reading. It happens every day.

I'm not judging. I do it too.
teedubbya Offline
#91 Posted: Sun, Jul 17 2016, 8:28 AM EST
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And YOU was a general or royal you. Not a specific person.
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#92 Posted: Sun, Jul 17 2016, 8:48 AM EST
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banderl wrote:
How about SD O'connor?

Sandy felt that that the election of Gore was "terrible" and said so in a public setting.
She didn't recuse herself from the Bush/Gore case and was part of the 5-4 majority for Bush .

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/07/ruth-bader-ginsburg-donald-trump-supreme-court-politics-history-214044



She certainly should have recused herself on that one.

I can't imagine what kind of ****storm we would have been dealing with if the Court would have been 4-4. Who would have decided the election?

And I agree with the post that said that we should do the right thing, and not use the wrongs of the past to justify the wrongs of today.






J
tailgater Offline
#93 Posted: Sun, Jul 17 2016, 9:29 AM EST
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banderl wrote:
It appears that the precedent is not to recuse yourself.
Should Ginsberg be the first?


So doing the right thing requires a precedent?
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#94 Posted: Sun, Jul 17 2016, 9:42 AM EST
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#53 DrafterX ^^^^

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Plastic XIKAR cigar cutter that was discarded
AT A FGM spring camp out that was used to cut
Kindling for NIGHTLY MO-HO "BONEFIRE" that always
goes on at those gatherings...

Also , she stayed awake and "took the pain"...
The cutter fainted at the sight of those departed toes featuring toenails of 2 inch thick infected nasty fungus.
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TMCTLT wrote:
Examples TW??? or just having fun? You should see some of the really nice PM's that he sent me the last time we " disagreed on something " he's a REAL CLASSY GUY



All of the things which I said to you were true. Not my problem if you can't handle the truth.
Don't you have some cigars to sell or something?
banderl Offline
#96 Posted: Sun, Jul 17 2016, 5:47 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
So doing the right thing requires a precedent?



The "right" thing is going to be defined by your preconceived notions.
Give me an example of any of them doing the "right" thing.
tailgater Offline
#97 Posted: Sun, Jul 17 2016, 6:48 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
The "right" thing is going to be defined by your preconceived notions.
Give me an example of any of them doing the "right" thing.


First you should deflect the question.


Oh.
Always one step ahead...
Brewha Offline
#98 Posted: Sun, Jul 17 2016, 7:59 PM EST
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When we roll the credits for this thread, we'll list TG as the Projectionist.....
banderl Offline
#99 Posted: Sun, Jul 17 2016, 9:14 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
First you should deflect the question.


Oh.
Always one step ahead...












Why do people always expect the other side to do the right thing?
Especially when they were silent when their side didn't do the "right" thing.
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#100 Posted: Sun, Jul 17 2016, 9:24 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
All of the things which I said to you were true. Not my problem if you can't handle the truth.
Don't you have some cigars to sell or something?




@ least I can still enjoy them.... Sickquot;


Yes sir....your a classy guy....from my in box


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At least I'm not a retarded POS like yourself.


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