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DrafterX Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 7:05 AM EST
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Donald Trump is beating Hillary Clinton among white men because guns, gays, and God, according to former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

“I think that, so many times, white — non-college-educated white males have voted Republican. They voted against their own economic interests because of guns, because of gays, and because of God, the three G’s, God being the woman’s right to choose,” Pelosi told PBS’s Judy Woodruff in an interview Wednesday.

But, Pelosi contended, that’s changing because of Clinton’s “economic agenda to create jobs, good-paying jobs, increasing paychecks.”

The opposition from white males “is softening,” she argued.

“Some of those people were never going to be voting Democratic anyway. But I believe that, with the turnout that we expect to have, we will draw some of them in with our message, and enough other people to win the election.”

Film at 11.... Think Think Think



Term limits... Mellow
Mikekoz13 Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 7:14 AM EST
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Oh yes............... term limits. Please let a Higher Power make this happen.
TMCTLT Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 7:20 AM EST
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Nancy Pelosi has for sometime spoken as though the lobotomy procedure....has already been completed.
What's more surprising than ANYTHING she has to say....it that folks continue to vote for that dog in heat
DrafterX Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 7:25 AM EST
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Speaking of right to choose tho... Clinton had an interesting take on it... 'If you're against abortion you should change your religious beliefs'.. or somethin like that... Mellow
tailgater Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 8:05 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Donald Trump is beating Hillary Clinton among white men because guns, gays, and God, according to former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

“I think that, so many times, white — non-college-educated white males have voted Republican. They voted against their own economic interests because of guns, because of gays, and because of God, the three G’s, God being the woman’s right to choose,” Pelosi told PBS’s Judy Woodruff in an interview Wednesday.

But, Pelosi contended, that’s changing because of Clinton’s “economic agenda to create jobs, good-paying jobs, increasing paychecks.”

The opposition from white males “is softening,” she argued.

“Some of those people were never going to be voting Democratic anyway. But I believe that, with the turnout that we expect to have, we will draw some of them in with our message, and enough other people to win the election.”

Film at 11.... Think Think Think



Term limits... Mellow


Sounds an awful lot like the "47%" quote that killed the Romney ticket.
DrafterX Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 8:18 AM EST
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Sounds to me like she's offering them more money to vote Democrat.... Mellow



I guess they plan to give everyone a raise before they cut their paychecks in half with more taxes.... Think
Speyside Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 8:25 AM EST
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If she thinks God is only about a woman's right to choose I feel sorry for her.
TMCTLT Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 9:42 AM EST
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She ( Hillary Rotten Clinton ) was asked " point blank " if she believed that a fetus that was ONE DAY from birth had any constitutional rights......she simply replied she was a supporter of Roe V Wade. So NO not even a baby one day from being born is NOT a human being and enjoys NO RIGHTS

IMHO, there IS something VERY wrong with this.
MACS Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 9:44 AM EST
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I'm just going to say that I do not like her, or anything that spews forth from her sewer of a mouth.
DrafterX Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 10:27 AM EST
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Pelosi or Clinton..?? Huh
DrafterX Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 10:30 AM EST
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'Hillary Clinton said that Americans will have to change their religious and personal convictions. Convictions and belief systems of citizens should not stand in her way. Cultural codes and religious beliefs have to change, Hillary said. She said the same thing in April of last year at the the sixth annual Women in the World Summit.'


Think Think




Gene363 Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 10:55 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
'Hillary Clinton said that Americans will have to change their religious and personal convictions. Convictions and belief systems of citizens should not stand in her way. Cultural codes and religious beliefs have to change, Hillary said. She said the same thing in April of last year at the the sixth annual Women in the World Summit.'


Think Think






Sounds like government controlled religion, she ought to be telling her goat humper friends/donors they need to change their religion to take out the killing and disrespect for women.
Speyside Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 11:24 AM EST
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I never understand what she is talking about. God is only about a woman's right to choose? My God is about a lot more than that.
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#14 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 11:37 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
'Hillary Clinton said that Americans will have to change their religious and personal convictions. Convictions and belief systems of citizens should not stand in her way. Cultural codes and religious beliefs have to change, Hillary said. She said the same thing in April of last year at the the sixth annual Women in the World Summit.'

Hilldog wants our God and Guns??? Should we all be like her instead???
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#15 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 12:29 PM EST
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she doesn't want us to be like her... she just wants to be able to punish us cause we're not... Mellow
MACS Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 2:06 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Pelosi or Clinton..?? Huh


Both.
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#17 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 3:06 PM EST
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If you had to send one of them over to Victor's cause his girlfriend is out of town and he's lonely, which one would you send..?? Huh
MACS Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 3:38 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
If you had to send one of them over to Victor's cause his girlfriend is out of town and he's lonely, which one would you send..?? Huh


Hillary. But then I'd let Victor know to vacate the premises because nobody deserves that.

Well... maybe anyone willing to vote for her does.
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#19 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 3:43 PM EST
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Laugh
Brewha Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 3:48 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Donald Trump is beating Hillary Clinton among white men because guns, gays, and God, according to former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

“I think that, so many times, white — non-college-educated white males have voted Republican. They voted against their own economic interests because of guns, because of gays, and because of God, the three G’s, God being the woman’s right to choose,” Pelosi told PBS’s Judy Woodruff in an interview Wednesday.

But, Pelosi contended, that’s changing because of Clinton’s “economic agenda to create jobs, good-paying jobs, increasing paychecks.”

The opposition from white males “is softening,” she argued.

“Some of those people were never going to be voting Democratic anyway. But I believe that, with the turnout that we expect to have, we will draw some of them in with our message, and enough other people to win the election.”



So I can see where this would be offensive to some - undereducated white men......

But you have to admit there is a lot of truth in it. Ultra-right conservatives are classically blinded to a candidates overall platform by wedge issues.

Proof of this is that no ones wants Lord Cheeto in office for any reason other than to block Clinton - or prolly any progressive.




Funny - Pelosi was not PC, but did hit the nail on the head. And since this is Donald's most endearing (if not only) quality, maybe Pelosi is just emulating him.....
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#21 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 3:51 PM EST
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I dunno man... I know a lot of guys that just don't like her... Mellow




then she (Hillary) basically says the true conservatives God is wrong... she's not doing well with this crowd... Mellow
Gene363 Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 5:41 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
So I can see where this would be offensive to some - undereducated white men......

But you have to admit there is a lot of truth in it. Ultra-right conservatives are classically blinded to a candidates overall platform by wedge issues.

Proof of this is that no ones wants Lord Cheeto in office for any reason other than to block Clinton - or prolly any progressive.




Funny - Pelosi was not PC, but did hit the nail on the head. And since this is Donald's most endearing (if not only) quality, maybe Pelosi is just emulating him.....


I course this would't find this offensive it validates your prejudice.
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#23 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 7:48 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I dunno man... I know a lot of guys that just don't like her... Mellow




then she (Hillary) basically says the true conservatives God is wrong... she's not doing well with this crowd... Mellow

The assertion is that the religious fundamentalists may live as they choose, but not inflict their view and laws on others. - not that their God is wrong. Beware those who proport to know the mind of God - it is the ultimate conceit.

I get it though - Hillery represents all that is wrong, bad, and evil in government to many. Yet, on the whole, there really is no evidence of this. I think it is a general rage towards the injustice of our country with progressives as the scape goats. But it is not the progressives that back the wage gaps, concentration of wealth or stifled social programs.

Just sayin'
MACS Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 7:54 PM EST
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^No... it's the democrats. Who choose to give people 'just enough to live on', instead of making people fend for themselves.

Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day... teach him to fish, and he doesn't need you... so he might start to think for himself and vote against your sorry ass.
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#25 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 8:00 PM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
I course this would't find this offensive it validates your prejudice.

Oh, nothing against the uneducated white males - there are lots of people that tend to have a lack of vision.

I go into a lot of warehouses. And the workers will tell me that Obama is a mooslum from Kenya and he want to destroy our country. And that if you are sick you should drink orange soda. And that we need a real man like Trump to fly to every nation and kick their leader in the balls - so they know not to eff with the US.....

Checkers really does sell more than chess.
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#26 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 8:12 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
^No... it's the democrats. Who choose to give people 'just enough to live on', instead of making people fend for themselves.

Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day... teach him to fish, and he doesn't need you... so he might start to think for himself and vote against your sorry ass.


Oh - too much charity. Fine. Who do we cut off first? What standard do you have for disqualifying people from govmut benefits?

You wanna start with Walmart?
MACS Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 8:20 PM EST
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Typical democrat. You think you're smarter and better than the unwashed (or uneducated) masses.

I'd much rather socialize with blue collar, hard working people who do for themselves than philosophers who think because they attended a few more years of school they're wise.

I don't profess to know a lot... but I do know the gov't is wasteful. Can we agree on that? And if we can agree on that... you still think they can do a better job with your money? I don't. I don't want my gov't to support me. I don't want them to do any more than enforce the laws we have, secure our borders, and provide for our infrastructure.

Hell, I don't even want them in charge of our education anymore. When 3rd world countries are churning out much smarter students... we have a problem.
MACS Offline
#28 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 8:22 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Oh - too much charity. Fine. Who do we cut off first? What standard do you have for disqualifying people from govmut benefits?

You wanna start with Walmart?


YES!!! The government should not be in the charity business. The money they control is NOT theirs. It belongs to the people who actually pay taxes... you know... the ones who work.
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#29 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 8:28 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Typical democrat. You think you're smarter and better than the unwashed (or uneducated) masses.

I'd much rather socialize with blue collar, hard working people who do for themselves than philosophers who think because they attended a few more years of school they're wise.

I don't profess to know a lot... but I do know the gov't is wasteful. Can we agree on that? And if we can agree on that... you still think they can do a better job with your money? I don't. I don't want my gov't to support me. I don't want them to do any more than enforce the laws we have, secure our borders, and provide for our infrastructure.

Hell, I don't even want them in charge of our education anymore. When 3rd world countries are churning out much smarter students... we have a problem.



Don't you work for the government?
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#30 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 8:35 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Typical democrat. You think you're smarter and better than the unwashed (or uneducated) masses.

I'd much rather socialize with blue collar, hard working people who do for themselves than philosophers who think because they attended a few more years of school they're wise.

I don't profess to know a lot... but I do know the gov't is wasteful. Can we agree on that? And if we can agree on that... you still think they can do a better job with your money? I don't. I don't want my gov't to support me. I don't want them to do any more than enforce the laws we have, secure our borders, and provide for our infrastructure.

Hell, I don't even want them in charge of our education anymore. When 3rd world countries are churning out much smarter students... we have a problem.


Not to kick a hornets nest... but the whole "hard working people are the salt of the earth and educated people are all egotistical asses who just philosophize the lint in their navel" trope is a bit worn don't you think?? (yes, I know, you're going to use me as an example of an egotistical azz. But guess what, my being an egotistical azz is completely unrelated to whether all educated people are egotistical asses, so I'll stop you right there.)

I mean... sure, you can have a smart person who never got educated and works hard.
But you can also have smart people who got educated and work hard and create many of the important advances of our nation. But you wouldn't want to hang out with them... because they don't "do for themselves".

There are also a lot of uneducated people who simply didn't want to get an education because it was too hard to do back when they were 19. Maybe they work hard now, maybe they do just as much as necessary to keep their supervisors off their back (yes, you know exactly the type of person I'm talking about). There isn't anything special about them, and they may actually be azzholes.

simply put, your stereotype is just as inaccurate as any other, and honestly a crappy way to choose who you want to socialize with.
MACS Offline
#31 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 8:35 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
Don't you work for the government?


The key word there is WORK. And the answer is yes... 20 years defending your sorry ass, and another 9 housing the jack-holes who like to victimize the populace. An often dangerous JOB that many don't want to do.

So while I am paid by the government, I actually provide services to earn the money I am paid, and I pay taxes. Next question.
MACS Offline
#32 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 8:43 PM EST
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Victor, if that's what you got out of that... you may wish to consult the library of Doctor Freud. I've been 4 lower division classes away from my bachelor's degree for 3 years. I don't care to finish it. I'm educated. I've also been to over a dozen different countries and lived in 2 of them for extended periods.

There are a lot of intelligent people who don't vote democrat. I dare say all of them. HA!

I happily spend time with democrats... delta1... xibbumbero... I was using a bit of hyperbole. I know, I know... that never happens here.
MACS Offline
#33 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 8:44 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Victor, if that's what you got out of that... you may wish to consult the library of Doctor Freud. I've been 4 lower division classes away from my bachelor's degree for 3 years. I don't care to finish it. I'm educated. I've also been to over a dozen different countries and lived in 2 of them for extended periods.

There are a lot of intelligent people who don't vote democrat. I dare say all of them. HA!

I happily spend time with democrats... delta1... xibbumbero... I was using a bit of hyperbole. I know, I know... that never happens here.


No offense meant to my two brothers who both WORKED for their retirements.
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#34 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 8:51 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
The key word there is WORK. And the answer is yes... 20 years defending your sorry ass, and another 9 housing the jack-holes who like to victimize the populace. An often dangerous JOB that many don't want to do.

So while I am paid by the government, I actually provide services to earn the money I am paid, and I pay taxes. Next question.



So how many years have you not been sucking off of the government teet?
MACS Offline
#35 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 8:58 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
So how many years have you not been sucking off of the government teet?


LOL LOL Okay, that got a chuckle out of me.
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#36 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 9:02 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Victor, if that's what you got out of that... you may wish to consult the library of Doctor Freud. I've been 4 lower division classes away from my bachelor's degree for 3 years. I don't care to finish it. I'm educated. I've also been to over a dozen different countries and lived in 2 of them for extended periods.

There are a lot of intelligent people who don't vote democrat. I dare say all of them. HA!

I happily spend time with democrats... delta1... xibbumbero... I was using a bit of hyperbole. I know, I know... that never happens here.


MACS.... I was just pointing out you were leaning very heavily on a tired trope. Now you tell me you're educated, so based on the trope I have to assume you don't do a hard day's work. You probably sit around an philosophize all day... you ivory tower intellectual.

You're the one who painted the world black and white in your statement. I just wanted to point out it was a tired and overused idea.... not sure what it has to do with hanging out with democrats... unless they're hard working salt of the earth? Because we already determined you're an ivory tower intellectual.

Where exactly are you going with your trope again?
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#37 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 9:03 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Typical democrat. You think you're smarter and better than the unwashed (or uneducated) masses.

I'd much rather socialize with blue collar, hard working people who do for themselves than philosophers who think because they attended a few more years of school they're wise.

I don't profess to know a lot... but I do know the gov't is wasteful. Can we agree on that? And if we can agree on that... you still think they can do a better job with your money? I don't. I don't want my gov't to support me. I don't want them to do any more than enforce the laws we have, secure our borders, and provide for our infrastructure.

Hell, I don't even want them in charge of our education anymore. When 3rd world countries are churning out much smarter students... we have a problem.

Smarter, more educated, more intellectual is not better. It has it place - that's all. And it is a mistake to grade people's quality by their gray matter qualifications. Some of the worst people who ever lived were smart and educated.....

I am not "better". But I have my place. We need disension and progressive ideas and much as we need conservative values and an honor of history. I can tell you as a career engineer that the ideas are nothing without the skills and talents to build the machines and make them work. My Brother is a machinist. And he has skills and understandings of thing I never will. But don't ask him to explain how a engine coil produces 35,000 volts from 12. But that's ok - he does not design field coils.


Anyway - The government is wasteful. People scam the system. Companies scam the system.
About the money - and I could be wrong - somethings need to be a public trust. Not for profit. Buisness if fine and good, but I don't want to see people getting creative making money off of prisons, education, medicine, road building.
Too many "creative" ways to profit - needs to be municipally run. Yes - socialisum in a small bottle.

And that is my crazy azz liberal 2 cents.
MACS Offline
#38 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 9:16 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
MACS.... I was just pointing out you were leaning very heavily on a tired trope. Now you tell me you're educated, so based on the trope I have to assume you don't do a hard day's work. You probably sit around an philosophize all day... you ivory tower intellectual.

You're the one who painted the world black and white in your statement. I just wanted to point out it was a tired and overused idea.... not sure what it has to do with hanging out with democrats... unless they're hard working salt of the earth? Because we already determined you're an ivory tower intellectual.

Where exactly are you going with your trope again?


Says the guy who takes every statement to its extreme one way or the other, to fit what he thinks you said.

I actually prefer Brewha's reply. Well thought out, and gives a bit of himself... you know, instead of just criticizing others, he offers his take. Much respect, Brew.
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#39 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 9:26 PM EST
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Brewha, well said.
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#40 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 9:27 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Oh, nothing against the uneducated white males - there are lots of people that tend to have a lack of vision.

I go into a lot of warehouses. And the workers will tell me that Obama is a mooslum from Kenya and he want to destroy our country. And that if you are sick you should drink orange soda. And that we need a real man like Trump to fly to every nation and kick their leader in the balls - so they know not to eff with the US.....

Checkers really does sell more than chess.


As long as those warehouse oafs are the only people voting for Trump, you win. Applause
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#41 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 9:27 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Says the guy who takes every statement to its extreme one way or the other, to fit what he thinks you said.

I actually prefer Brewha's reply. Well thought out, and gives a bit of himself... you know, instead of just criticizing others, he offers his take. Much respect, Brew.


I make my examples black and white. I don't make my actual perception of the world black and white.

You probably prefer Brew's reply because you're a closet liberal.
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#42 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 9:28 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
I make my examples black and white. I don't make my actual perception of the world black and white.

You probably prefer Brew's reply because you're a closet liberal.


Yet another belly laugh. Good show.
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#43 Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 9:32 PM EST
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Too much charity becomes enabling and robs the recipient of their self worth. People that contribute nothing have no path to self realization. They tend to loathe themselves and take it out on people like themselves.
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#44 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 8:28 AM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
Too much charity becomes enabling and robs the recipient of their self worth. People that contribute nothing have no path to self realization. They tend to loathe themselves and take it out on people like themselves.

That explains a lot about our ghettos.
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#45 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 8:30 AM EST
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As the snow flies..... Sad
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#46 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 8:40 AM EST
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somehow that isnt a racist and bigoted statement?

can i say all the uneducated blacks vote dem because of free stuff, abortion on demand for their baby mammas, etc?

both blanketed statements are equally true/untrue and bigoted yet only one is accepted
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#47 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 8:55 AM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
Too much charity becomes enabling and robs the recipient of their self worth. People that contribute nothing have no path to self realization. They tend to loathe themselves and take it out on people like themselves.

I don't think there is any argument there. I know I agree.

But you can't throw out the baby with the bath water. Too much of anything is not good. And charity needs to be applied judiciously - but it is needed. It will always be needed.

I think we both have a problem with the charity systems being cheated or over applied. I think you rage at the bums that leach the system. I rage at the companies that do. And better controls are needed on both fronts.
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#48 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 8:59 AM EST
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gummy jones wrote:
somehow that isnt a racist and bigoted statement?

can i say all the uneducated blacks vote dem because of free stuff, abortion on demand for their baby mammas, etc?

both blanketed statements are equally true/untrue and bigoted yet only one is accepted

There is a line between discussing demographics and making racist statements – and you are trying to erase it.
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#49 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 9:05 AM EST
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On a cold and gray Chicago mornin'
A poor little baby child is born.... Whistle
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#50 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 9:14 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
There is a line between discussing demographics and making racist statements – and you are trying to erase it.


i guess it depends on the demographic being discussed and who is discussing it

pelosi is showing the typical elitist belittling and demonization most dems show towards their opponents

but i guess sometimes you have to "pass a bill to see whats in it"

she really is a gem
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