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cacman Offline
#51 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 9:23 AM EST
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gummy jones wrote:
somehow that isnt a racist and bigoted statement?

can i say all the uneducated blacks vote dem because of free stuff, abortion on demand for their baby mammas, etc?

both blanketed statements are equally true/untrue and bigoted yet only one is accepted

Ghettos are not made up entirely of blacks.

For some having an abortion is equivalent to taking a cut in pay. Some procreate just for the increase in social benefits. Not only does the mother of the child receive additional social benefits because you can't get child support from a father who is also on welfare, but often the grandmothers "operate" day care centers out of their home and also receive a raise.
gummy jones Offline
#52 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 9:25 AM EST
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yea dude, i know

just like all white republican males dont really care about the "gays"

hence the last sentence in my post you quote above
Stinkdyr Offline
#53 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 10:16 AM EST
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End welfare breeding....and slap term limits on all public elected offices.

Sipping tea
victor809 Offline
#54 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 2:34 PM EST
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You guys know the entire "welfare breeding" thing has been largely debunked, right?
tailgater Offline
#55 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 2:38 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
You guys know the entire "welfare breeding" thing has been largely debunked, right?


Next you'll tell us the gubment didn't give away Kools and Colt 45's to increase KENO revenues.
Brewha Offline
#56 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 2:38 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
You guys know the entire "welfare breeding" thing has been largely debunked, right?

Yeah, but it's so much fun to blame the poor.

Besides it is more palatable than acknowledging that the 1%'s are the real ones screwing us.
Brewha Offline
#57 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 2:39 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Next you'll tell us the gubment didn't give away Kools and Colt 45's to increase KENO revenues.



You mean if I play keno the guvmut will give me a six shooter and a pack of smokes?

Where do I sign up???
teedubbya Offline
#58 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 2:42 PM EST
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I read on the inter webs that MACS works hard for his monah and pays taxes which is wayyyy different than all the other people working for the government and paying taxes.
tailgater Offline
#59 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 2:44 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
You mean if I play keno the guvmut will give me a six shooter and a pack of smokes?

Where do I sign up???


You don't sign up.
You just hang at the local with all the gangstas and baby makers.

duh.
tailgater Offline
#60 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 2:45 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I read on the inter webs that MACS works hard for his monah and pays taxes which is wayyyy different than all the other people working for the government and paying taxes.


Monah?

Is that Boston-speak for "one who moans"?
Brewha Offline
#61 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 2:53 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
You don't sign up.
You just hang at the local with all the gangstas and baby makers.

duh.


I lean so much on these threads.....
DrafterX Offline
#62 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 2:54 PM EST
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of course if you had an Obama phone they'd automatically text you the locations... Mellow
Brewha Offline
#63 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 2:59 PM EST
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You think I could qualify for a voucher to get free keno tickets?

I've been practicing limping (in case I need to use the crip parking).
DrafterX Offline
#64 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 3:03 PM EST
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Shame on you CROS might show up...
Brewha Offline
#65 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 3:25 PM EST
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No Obama phone for Brewha either.... Bored
tailgater Offline
#66 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 3:26 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
You think I could qualify for a voucher to get free keno tickets?

I've been practicing limping (in case I need to use the crip parking).


No crip parking.

Bloods only.
TMCTLT Offline
#67 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 4:58 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
You guys know the entire "welfare breeding" thing has been largely debunked, right?




Can you show us the " work " to support your claim? Who claimed it was bunk...and how'd they go about proving it?
Brewha Offline
#68 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 5:03 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Can you show us the " work " to support your claim? Who claimed it was bunk...and how'd they go about proving it?

It's sooooo obvious that the only reason you doubt what Victor pointed out is because he is a liberal....



Just sayin'
victor809 Offline
#69 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 5:25 PM EST
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http://www.makezine.enoughenough.org/queens.html
victor809 Offline
#70 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 5:26 PM EST
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It's funny that I have to post proof that this myth is in fact a myth, when I'm betting tmct has never actually seen any study that talked about welfare breeding. He just has some commonly held myth in place.
victor809 Offline
#71 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 5:27 PM EST
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He has never investigated it because it is convenient for him to believe it.
banderl Offline
#72 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 5:30 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I read on the inter webs that MACS works hard for his monah and pays taxes which is wayyyy different than all the other people working for the government and paying taxes.



Next time you go to the DMV ask one of the slugs working there if they work hard for their money.
tailgater Offline
#73 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 5:37 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
Next time you go to the DMV ask one of the slugs working there if they work hard for their money.


I did.
The response was "...I don't understand the question...."
cacman Offline
#74 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 5:47 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
It's funny that I have to post proof that this myth is in fact a myth, when I'm betting tmct has never actually seen any study that talked about welfare breeding. He just has some commonly held myth in place.

Easy for a middle-class guy to say from white suburbia, whose biggest problem is the occasional homeless guy, and who has never lived in a welfare environment.

What makes the "proof" you provided so accurate? Why should we believe Dean Spade? Who the fuq is he? Never heard of him. Where's the footnotes indicating where he got his "facts" from? When was the article even written?? What a load of BS.
victor809 Offline
#75 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 5:51 PM EST
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He provided a link in the article to the study.

I don't live in the suburbs.

Where have you gotten your "facts" about welfare breeding?


Anything else you would like to be wrong about today?
victor809 Offline
#76 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 5:51 PM EST
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Oh... And I'm definitely not middle class.
cacman Offline
#77 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 6:09 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
He provided a link in the article to the study.

I don't live in the suburbs.

Where have you gotten your "facts" about welfare breeding?


Anything else you would like to be wrong about today?

I lived amongst it and witnessed it for almost 20yrs and your honestly going to sit there and tell me I'm wrong. LMFAO.

You do realize the link to the The Twentieth Century Fund that compiled statistics doesn't work!!! The latest year mentioned in the article is 1993. Do you think the stats may have changed in the last 20yrs??? DOH! d'oh!

Here's a link from April of this year.

Black Unmarried Welfare Breeding Couple - Dawn Scott, 28, and Raynell Kimbrough, 31 - shot dead in bed next to their newborn baby girl
http://truenewsusa.blogspot.com/2016/04/black-unmarried-welfare-breeding-couple.html
The guy had 10 kids alone.

Anything else you would like to be wrong about today?
Brewha Offline
#78 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 6:11 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
I did.
The response was "...I don't understand the question...."


Laugh
cacman Offline
#79 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 6:11 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Oh... And I'm definitely not middle class.

Yeah right. And all you smoke is Swisher Sweets from the gas station. What a load of BS.
Brewha Offline
#80 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 6:13 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Oh... And I'm definitely not middle class.

Keep up the struggle Victor, we're all pulling for ya!
victor809 Offline
#81 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 6:17 PM EST
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Cacman... I never said I was below middle class. Just that I wasn't middle class. I'm not sure what combined household income has to be to qualify as middle class, but I'm pretty sure I'm not in the range.
victor809 Offline
#82 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 6:19 PM EST
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Additionally, you haven't provided data. You've provided 2 anecdotes. Your life and an article about a single couple.

Learn what statistical data is.

I apologize, I'm working off my phone and didn't realize the link was down. I'll try to find more recent data. Meanwhile please look for any data at all.
Speyside Offline
#83 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 6:26 PM EST
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Well if your not middle class are you middle classless?
cacman Offline
#84 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 6:33 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Learn what statistical data is.

I haven't seen any statistical data that says it doesn't exist. Dean Spade's article has yet to be supported. Going to The Century Foundation's website and searching for "Welfare Breeding" returned a single article from 2013:
https://tcf.org/content/commentary/staying-classy/
The article does state "Benefits have also become less generous." and that less families are covered by TANF.

But, the number of low-income people on food stamps (officially called Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP) reached an all-time high during Obama's reign and only recently has begun to decline.
http://www.factcheck.org/2014/07/obamas-numbers-july-2014-update/

So to say it doesn't exist is wrong. It may be on the decline, but that is far different from saying it doesn't exist.
victor809 Offline
#85 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 6:38 PM EST
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http://www.acf.hhs.gov/ofa/resource/character/fy2010/fy2010-chap10-ys-final
There you go. Family size has decreased on welfare. 2010 info.

Number of people on foodstamps is irrelevant. You're arguing they are breeding on welfare, not the job market. Don't go off on an irrelevant tangent.
banderl Offline
#86 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 6:38 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Cacman... I never said I was below middle class. Just that I wasn't middle class. I'm not sure what combined household income has to be to qualify as middle class, but I'm pretty sure I'm not in the range.



But you have to work 24 hours a day to be whatever it is that you are.
victor809 Offline
#87 Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 6:39 PM EST
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... This is true
cacman Offline
#88 Posted: Sat, Jul 30 2016, 4:16 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
http://www.acf.hhs.gov/ofa/resource/character/fy2010/fy2010-chap10-ys-final
There you go. Family size has decreased on welfare. 2010 info.

The number of people on foodstamps is irrelevant. You're arguing they are breeding on welfare, not the job market. Don't go off on an irrelevant tangent.

Are the People suppose to lay all their faith on that article alone?? What a fug'n joke. Is that all you got???

The number of people receiving food stamps is directly relevant to the number of families recieveing TANF ( Temporary Assistance for Needy Families). Although TANF may show a decrease in families receiving benefits, the restrictions on family benefits do not correspond with the increased amount of people receiving welfare and food stamps. Just another work around the system. Take away from one system and transfer if to another does not abolish the facts. There are just as many people on welfare as there are people working full-time jobs. That fact in itself is admonishment.

What does it mean to be admonished in court
Admonition (or "being admonished") is a punishment under Scots law when an offender has been found guilty but is neither imprisoned nor fined but receives verbal discipline and is afterwards set free; the conviction is still recorded.

Why does the definition above sound a lot like Hillary and her fellow liberal Democrats?

Welfare has existed for a lot longer than 20yrs since Roosevelt enacted it in 1935. To assume the system has not been taken advantage of and practices passed from one generation to another is naive. If I was a betting man, if such atrocities existed in the small neighborhood I lived in, I think its fair to say that it may have occurred in other larger neighborhoods within the same city, and other larger cities throughout the Nation. Statistically speaking of course.

Get back to me when you have some real facts and statistics Vic. Otherwise you are full of schit. If you are not receiving guberment assistance, them IMHO you are middle-class. I've met many people that receive more on welfare than what many receive on a paycheck.


Anything else you would like to be wrong about today?
cacman Offline
#89 Posted: Sat, Jul 30 2016, 4:29 AM EST
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Remind me again how much Pelosi made on insider trading deals regarding Citibank.
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#90 Posted: Sat, Jul 30 2016, 5:14 AM EST
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banderl wrote:
But you have to work 24 hours a day to be whatever it is that you are.


Vince Lombardi wrote:
The price of success is hard work, dedication to the job at hand, and the determination that whether we win or lose, we have applied the best of ourselves to the task at hand.


And you want to count hours????
Brewha Offline
#91 Posted: Sat, Jul 30 2016, 10:45 AM EST
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This just in -

Many Trump supported were baffled and insulted by Stephen Hawking's remark that Trump was "a demigod that seems to appeal to the lowest common denominator."

Google reported a spike in searches for "demigod", "denominator", and "Stephen Hawking" after his comment.

The supporters reportedly felt that he was intentionally trying to confuse them.




So, it looks like Pelosi was spot on......
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#92 Posted: Sat, Jul 30 2016, 10:56 AM EST
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cacman wrote:
Remind me again how much Pelosi made on insider trading deals regarding Citibank.


about the same as that cali antigun congressman who was running rifles

but far less than harry reid who made far far less than hilary

gotta love those out there "fighting" for the middle class
TMCTLT Offline
#93 Posted: Sat, Jul 30 2016, 10:56 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
This just in -

Many Trump supported were baffled and insulted by Stephen Hawking's remark that Trump was "a demigod that seems to appeal to the lowest common denominator."

Google reported a spike in searches for "demigod", "denominator", and "Stephen Hawking" after his comment.

The supporters reportedly felt that he was intentionally trying to confuse them.




So, it looks like Pelosi was spot on......




Yeah,,,except all the searching was being done by his liberal ignorant haters.

The only correct answer to the OP's question is WGAF what that wench has to say about anything.

I'm sure she'd be tickled to know she has such a loyal believer / follower in you.

You'd have to physically open her head to see if there's anything in it besides air....
TMCTLT Offline
#94 Posted: Sat, Jul 30 2016, 11:03 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
It's sooooo obvious that the only reason you doubt what Victor pointed out is because he is a liberal....



Just sayin'




No actually this little tidbit caught my eye....

The Twentieth Century Fund has compiled statistics about welfare to debunk the lies about welfare recipients that excuse the travesties of welfare reform. I’ve picked some of the facts I think are really useful for activists, but you should look at them all. I recommend using these facts to create your own sticker campaign, graffiti, e-mails, poster/wheatpaste campaign, to educate your friends and family and classmates and whoeve




Just sayin.....
banderl Offline
#95 Posted: Sat, Jul 30 2016, 11:16 AM EST
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cacman wrote:
And you want to count hours????



It was a joke, but of course I wouldn't expect you to understand.
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#96 Posted: Sat, Jul 30 2016, 12:22 PM EST
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cacman wrote:
Are the People suppose to lay all their faith on that article alone?? What a fug'n joke. Is that all you got???

So. Provide me with actual statistics providing evidence for your point. You've got an idea in your head based on nothing but anecdotes... which you expect me to believe. Yet when I provide you with statistics, you say "is that all you got". It's more than you have provided, so either get some evidence or admit you're wrong.

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The number of people receiving food stamps is directly relevant to the number of families recieveing TANF ( Temporary Assistance for Needy Families). Although TANF may show a decrease in families receiving benefits, the restrictions on family benefits do not correspond with the increased amount of people receiving welfare and food stamps. Just another work around the system. Take away from one system and transfer if to another does not abolish the facts. There are just as many people on welfare as there are people working full-time jobs. That fact in itself is admonishment.

.......and completely irrelevant to the argument of welfare mothers breeding to get more money. I have no idea why you're running off on this tangent.

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What does it mean to be admonished in court
Admonition (or "being admonished") is a punishment under Scots law when an offender has been found guilty but is neither imprisoned nor fined but receives verbal discipline and is afterwards set free; the conviction is still recorded.

Why does the definition above sound a lot like Hillary and her fellow liberal Democrats?

....???? you're having a lot of trouble staying on topic. And you're not being graded on length here, so please leave definitions out of your argument. We all know what words mean, this isn't a high school paper you're trying to pad for length.

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Welfare has existed for a lot longer than 20yrs since Roosevelt enacted it in 1935. To assume the system has not been taken advantage of and practices passed from one generation to another is naive. If I was a betting man, if such atrocities existed in the small neighborhood I lived in, I think its fair to say that it may have occurred in other larger neighborhoods within the same city, and other larger cities throughout the Nation. Statistically speaking of course.

You do realize that just saying "statistically speaking" doesn't mean the words before that statement were statistics, right? Do you know what statistics are?

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Get back to me when you have some real facts and statistics Vic. Otherwise you are full of schit. If you are not receiving guberment assistance, them IMHO you are middle-class. I've met many people that receive more on welfare than what many receive on a paycheck.

I gave you real facts and statistics. You haven't even mentioned them. Feel free to point out where they are wrong, or where they may not apply. But jsut ranting about irrelevant stuff does not make an argument.

If you think anyone not receiving government assistance is "middle class" then you have a really bad understanding of the concept surrounding the word "middle".

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Anything else you would like to be wrong about today?

you've yet to show I'm wrong about anything.
victor809 Offline
#97 Posted: Sat, Jul 30 2016, 12:23 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
No actually this little tidbit caught my eye....

The Twentieth Century Fund has compiled statistics about welfare to debunk the lies about welfare recipients that excuse the travesties of welfare reform. I’ve picked some of the facts I think are really useful for activists, but you should look at them all. I recommend using these facts to create your own sticker campaign, graffiti, e-mails, poster/wheatpaste campaign, to educate your friends and family and classmates and whoeve




Just sayin.....


A Fact that is useful for activists is still a fact. You seem to be pulling your material from a collection of fiction.
TMCTLT Offline
#98 Posted: Sat, Jul 30 2016, 2:09 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
A Fact that is useful for activists is still a fact. You seem to be pulling your material from a collection of fiction.




Your a great teacher....what can I say
Oh and whose " facts " are we referring to? Just because your post's auther " claims these to be FACTS " doesn't make them so!!!
victor809 Offline
#99 Posted: Sat, Jul 30 2016, 3:59 PM EST
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Then provide some which contradict what I posted.

I'm bored of people spouting overused and unsupported ideas and basing their decisions on it. I gave you information to show it is incorrect. Just claiming you don't believe the data, when your beliefs aren't even based on data to begin with is absurd and childish.
TMCTLT Offline
#100 Posted: Sat, Jul 30 2016, 4:56 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Then provide some which contradict what I posted.

I'm bored of people spouting overused and unsupported ideas and basing their decisions on it. I gave you information to show it is incorrect. Just claiming you don't believe the data, when your beliefs aren't even based on data to begin with is absurd and childish.




Your NOT worth my time and energy....believe what you like....have fun with it!!!!
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