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gary96 Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 6:46 AM EST
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So yesterday, I clicked on a you tube link somewhere on here that lead to a video from the White House Correspondence Dinner where the black comedian joked with the President and called him the N-word. The debate was whether it was appropriate and as it turns out it is OK for a black to call another black that word.

So I sat here thinking about political correctness. So we got the actual “N-word” which is taboo to say. It is so taboo, I can’t even type it here. If you say it you will be drawn and quartered on all the social media and you’ll end up with threats against you. So we came up with the phrase “the N-word” to replace the actual “N-word.” My thoughts were… If we keep saying the phrase “the N-word” to replace the actual “N-word” how long will it be before the phrase, “the-N-word” becomes taboo?

Logically if A = B, with B being the condition it is unsayable, and C = A, shouldn’t C = B also?

I wonder how long it is before we just start grunting at each other for fear of using any word. Political correctness is starting to apply to a whole lot of phrases and words. Read last week that bringing up golf is now considered "micro-aggression."
DrafterX Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 6:48 AM EST
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I knew Brewha was up to somethin... Not talking
TMCTLT Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 7:03 AM EST
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Here I thought we were gonna be talkin bout Nipples...d'oh!
jjanecka Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 7:06 AM EST
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Where's the nudity?
Brewha Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 7:14 AM EST
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Damn!

...they're on to me....
DrafterX Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 7:17 AM EST
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Laugh



makes you wonder tho what kind of sick twisted aggression Victor has been pushing with all that Rugby talk... Think


Brewha Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 7:40 AM EST
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gary96 wrote:
So yesterday, I clicked on a you tube link somewhere on here that lead to a video from the White House Correspondence Dinner where the black comedian joked with the President and called him the N-word. The debate was whether it was appropriate and as it turns out it is OK for a black to call another black that word.

So I sat here thinking about political correctness. So we got the actual “N-word” which is taboo to say. It is so taboo, I can’t even type it here. If you say it you will be drawn and quartered on all the social media and you’ll end up with threats against you. So we came up with the phrase “the N-word” to replace the actual “N-word.” My thoughts were… If we keep saying the phrase “the N-word” to replace the actual “N-word” how long will it be before the phrase, “the-N-word” becomes taboo?

Logically if A = B, with B being the condition it is unsayable, and C = A, shouldn’t C = B also?

I wonder how long it is before we just start grunting at each other for fear of using any word. Political correctness is starting to apply to a whole lot of phrases and words. Read last week that bringing up golf is now considered "micro-aggression."

If we consider the ever evolving nature of language from a logical point of view, and consider words as non-regressive cultural place keepers, it seems clear that the ongoing shift in meaning is asymptomatic of races and only typical linguistic neoplasia.

As far as the “N-word” goes, No one like being called a Nagger…..it’s just rude.
tamapatom Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 8:28 AM EST
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N-word.........Noob?
Gene363 Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 10:28 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
If we consider the ever evolving nature of language from a logical point of view, and consider words as non-regressive cultural place keepers, it seems clear that the ongoing shift in meaning is asymptomatic of races and only typical linguistic neoplasia.

As far as the “N-word” goes, No one like being called a Nagger…..it’s just rude.


Just don't say that with too much ak'cent. horse
teedubbya Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 10:49 AM EST
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I dunno. I try not to purposefully offend people. Sometimes I will in a good natured way but once I find out their are really offended or it's not taken as intended I tend to try to stop. I too think PC has gone too far and is often used as a tool to blunt real dialog and debate. But I also have no desire to have a free pass to say certain words. It's wasted energy. Good old common sense goes a long way.
DrafterX Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 10:50 AM EST
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True... true..... Mellow
Carib1 Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 11:10 AM EST
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You Cracka assed Cracka!

Why is THAT ok?
DrafterX Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 11:12 AM EST
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It's not..!! You Bassard..!! Mad
Gene363 Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 11:45 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I dunno. I try not to purposefully offend people. Sometimes I will in a good natured way but once I find out their are really offended or it's not taken as intended I tend to try to stop. I too think PC has gone too far and is often used as a tool to blunt real dialog and debate. But I also have no desire to have a free pass to say certain words. It's wasted energy. Good old common sense goes a long way.


Agree, Ironically, some of the most insidious racists would never use the N word.
teedubbya Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 11:48 AM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
Agree, Ironically, some of the most insidious racists would never use the N word.



Absolutely. Odd isn't it.
JadeRose Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 12:13 PM EST
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I agree with Louis CK on the use of the phrase "N-word". It's crap and lazy and by using it, you take the onus off of you and put it on ME..the listener or reader. If...for some reason....you feel the need to write or say the word nigger than gaddam say it. A better bet...avoid saying it or writing it in the first place. And no...I do NOT think that comedian should have referred to the President as "My ****" or whatever he said.
ZRX1200 Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 12:46 PM EST
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Racists totally ruined the best word for "being cheap"......
DrafterX Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 12:49 PM EST
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Think
banderl Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 12:53 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Racists totally ruined the best word for "being cheap"......



Scottish?
ZRX1200 Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 12:55 PM EST
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Hey now......
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#21 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 12:57 PM EST
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_about_the_word_%22niggardly%22

Technically the words are not related at all. They come from different roots. Complaining about it is on par with saying the word posse is an offensive reference to female genitalia.
DrafterX Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 12:59 PM EST
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Victor finds female genitalia offensive..?? Huh


Think
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#23 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 1:09 PM EST
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Carib1 wrote:
You Cracka assed Cracka!

Why is THAT ok?

I'm so old I used to be a honkie.
tailgater Offline
#24 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 1:22 PM EST
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It just proves that people are not only overly sensitive, but they're stupid as well.

There is a bigger and far worse reaction when someone says "n*gger" than if they said "mother f*cker".
Think about that.

It's somehow worse to use a derogatory term, than it is to suggest that a person has sexual intercourse with their own biological mother.
Likely without ample protection.
Knowing your mother...
teedubbya Offline
#25 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 1:37 PM EST
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people are only overly sensitive if you get to be the one to define normal. You can use whatever words you like but that doesn't gaurentee no reaction. Go ahead and use it if you want to that bad. Just don't bitch about the reaction if it is a predictable one.
tailgater Offline
#26 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 1:38 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
people are only overly sensitive if you get to be the one to define normal. You can use whatever words you like but that doesn't gaurentee no reaction. Go ahead and use it if you want to that bad. Just don't bitch about the reaction if it is a predictable one.


Miss the point much?
teedubbya Offline
#27 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 1:41 PM EST
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nope.... always think everything is about you or you get to define the point?

I didn't take issue with the mother effer stuff.... meh
tailgater Offline
#28 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 1:43 PM EST
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Say something stupid or knowingly offensive and we get it: there will be backlash. You're not telling us something we don't understand.

But the backlash for the "n-word" is disproportionate based on any common sense application of the term "normal".
banderl Offline
#29 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 1:43 PM EST
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I would think that only a person who actually effed his mother would be offended by the term.
teedubbya Offline
#30 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 1:44 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Say something stupid or knowingly offensive and we get it: there will be backlash. You're not telling us something we don't understand.

But the backlash for the "n-word" is disproportionate based on any common sense application of the term "normal".





according to you if you get to define normal. apparently in reality you are wrong. the reality is you can say it and predict the reaction.
tailgater Offline
#31 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 1:46 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
nope.... always think everything is about you or you get to define the point?

I didn't take issue with the mother effer stuff.... meh


Dude.
I post about being "overly sensitive".
You use that term in the very next post.
So you were addressing my post and you missed the point. Which was NOT the m'fer joke.

"meh"
teedubbya Offline
#32 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 1:48 PM EST
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yes I did play off the overly sensitive part but didn't miss the point. I actually agreed with some of what you said so didn't comment. it is weird how we as a society find one more or equally offensive as the other.. but we do....

to be honest I didn't feel like I was responding directly to you or your thought.... those words sparked a thought and I typed it.... it isn't all about you

meh.
DrafterX Offline
#33 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 1:50 PM EST
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I find meh offensive cause it's not a real word... Not talking
teedubbya Offline
#34 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 1:52 PM EST
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it means no more half price cheeseburger day
DrafterX Offline
#35 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 2:00 PM EST
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damn... Sad
teedubbya Offline
#36 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 2:06 PM EST
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well thats not true.... half price cheeseburger day will continue but the original price will be doubled
DrafterX Offline
#37 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 2:11 PM EST
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Damn ethanol.. Mad
robertsccr5 Offline
#38 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 2:31 PM EST
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this being a cigar website, I was hoping to see a discussion about Nicaragua, Nicotine, Nubs.
teedubbya Offline
#39 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 2:35 PM EST
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nubs are irish right?
Gene363 Offline
#40 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 2:49 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I find meh offensive cause it's not a real word... Not talking


Meh...
DrafterX Offline
#41 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 3:30 PM EST
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Mad
Gene363 Offline
#42 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 5:40 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Mad


Meh, it's like a careless shrug of the shoulders accompanied by rolling eyes. Besides, you know the rulez here, if you say something bothers or offends you, it hangs a virtual, "Lick Me" sign on your back. Times ten if it involves grammar or spelling.Boo hoo!
Mr. Jones Offline
#43 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 6:30 PM EST
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I'm IRISH and I DON'T care.

I never say that word.
teedubbya Offline
#44 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 7:34 PM EST
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You have a nub too huh?
Mithrandir Offline
#45 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 8:38 PM EST
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gary96 wrote:
Logically if A = B, with B being the condition it is unsayable, and C = A, shouldn’t C = B also?


Is this that new math everyone is talking about?
frankj1 Offline
#46 Posted: Wed, Aug 17 2016, 9:13 PM EST
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Curb Your Enthusiasm (HBO):

Larry David somehow became friends with a rapper named something like Crazy Eye Killah who always asked Larry "are you my niggah?"

One time Larry, unaware of current PC and in an example of brilliantly innocent social commentary, replied "are you my Caucasion?"

Killah was forced to reply "yeah".

Both actors played it to perfection.
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#47 Posted: Thu, Aug 18 2016, 6:00 AM EST
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If it walks like a duck, squawks like a duck, and looks like a duck… It's a mallard.
teedubbya Offline
#48 Posted: Thu, Aug 18 2016, 8:22 AM EST
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I heard there are no ducks at altitude
cacman Offline
#49 Posted: Thu, Aug 18 2016, 8:47 AM EST
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^^^ Grouse season starts Labor Day weekend. Waterfowl (duck & geese) season starts at the end of Oct.
Love bird hunting. Just don't recommend doing it with Cheney.
teedubbya Offline
#50 Posted: Thu, Aug 18 2016, 8:50 AM EST
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It wasn't his fault. His buddy was eating pringles
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