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Stinkdyr Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2017, 12:52 PM EST
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Oliva V

Don't get me wrong, it is an ok cigar.
But WAY over-rated.

Herfing
ovid Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2017, 12:59 PM EST
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Anything in the Padron "thousand" series
hnixon12 Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2017, 12:59 PM EST
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Stinkdyr wrote:
Oliva V

Don't get me wrong, it is an ok cigar.
But WAY over-rated.

Herfing



no way..great cigar IMO
ovid Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2017, 1:04 PM EST
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Stinkdyr wrote:
Oliva V

Don't get me wrong, it is an ok cigar.
But WAY over-rated.

Herfing

Big Oliva fan here. The serie V is the only one I didn't like. Now the serie v melanio is a beautiful smoke
delta1 Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2017, 1:06 PM EST
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Illusione eccj 20th: very good, but I was hoping to have my socks knocked off
jjanecka Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2017, 1:06 PM EST
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Olivas and Padron x000's are great but I could see how they're a bit overhyped, fuente and cubans too.

I'll go with the Cohiba Siglo Line. They're good smokes but the flavor, I feel like I can get the same out of a good dominican for the same price point.
Hank_The_Tank Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2017, 1:13 PM EST
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Granted, I have only had 5-6 CC's, but all but one was overrated.

I had a RASCC from dstieger that people rave about but didn't find it very interesting. Wish I would have had it when I wasn't doing anything other than smoking a cigar rather than playing poker and drinking beer.
KingoftheCove Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2017, 1:51 PM EST
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Stinkdyr wrote:
Oliva V

Don't get me wrong, it is an ok cigar.
But WAY over-rated.

Herfing

Years ago I loved them, bought them often.
Then ran into too many fivers that had a bit of a harsh edge to them, even after rest.
Still have a handful, but quit buying them some time ago.
bgz Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2017, 2:00 PM EST
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Most of what I've had from DE.

Overrated IMO.

I've been disappointed with even the LPs that I've had. Stinger sent me one recently that was better than others I've tried, but in it's transitions, some spots were very good, others not so much.

I don't know... guess they just don't hit my pallet right for what ever reason.
delta1 Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2017, 2:13 PM EST
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^ agreed, and the same with most Viajes...
gummy jones Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2017, 2:32 PM EST
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ovid wrote:
Anything in the Padron "thousand" series


id disagree
they are like $4 cigars and are pleasurable and consistent in that and even a slightly higher price range

if you expect them to be a $10 cigar then yes, i would agree that they are over rated in that regard
Salmoneye Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2017, 4:16 PM EST
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F Nub
dstieger Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2017, 4:18 PM EST
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WTH is an overrated cigar?

All the ones that I don't like? I'll start working on a list....
Kerbey Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2017, 4:45 PM EST
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Feral Flying Pig

Friends made it sound like it was going to give me a cigargasm and then make me a sandwich.
Not so much. It was OK, and at that price, no thanks. Of course if somebody handed me one I'd give it another try as I've only had the one.
I've had the same experience with the other LPs as well. People really seem to like them and maybe unreal expectations did it in for me..
bgz Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2017, 4:50 PM EST
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Kerbey wrote:
Feral Flying Pig

Friends made it sound like it was going to give me a cigargasm and then make me a sandwich.
Not so much. It was OK, and at that price, no thanks. Of course if somebody handed me one I'd give it another try as I've only had the one.
I've had the same experience with the other LPs as well. People really seem to like them and maybe unreal expectations did it in for me..


Apparently cameroon isn't feeling well today and is missing opportunities to re-name noobs.

Because most of us on this forum do not answer our doors for door to door salesmen and have never heard of the vacuum of the same name, is it ok if we call you Hoover?
99cobra2881 Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2017, 4:52 PM EST
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Aging room f55 expressivo 20 relights on a well rested cigar is unacceptable.
hnixon12 Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2017, 4:53 PM EST
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OPUS X God of Fire...$20 and I didnt like it at all
elRopo Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2017, 4:57 PM EST
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bgz wrote:
Apparently cameroon isn't feeling well today and is missing opportunities to re-name noobs.

Because most of us on this forum do not answer our doors for door to door salesmen and have never heard of the vacuum of the same name, is it ok if we call you Hoover?

Nothing sucks like Electrolux!
Kerbey Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2017, 5:19 PM EST
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bgz wrote:
Apparently cameroon isn't feeling well today and is missing opportunities to re-name noobs.

Because most of us on this forum do not answer our doors for door to door salesmen and have never heard of the vacuum of the same name, is it ok if we call you Hoover?


I accept my noob name. I promise I'm not driving up bids. Except for maybe 5 Vegas Gold. I mean it has gold right in the name. How can one resist?

Can I call cameroon 'cāmtoosoon'?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2017, 5:31 PM EST
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elRopo wrote:
Nothing sucks like Electrolux!


Not talking Not talking Not talking






Your sister!


















BAZINGA!













Herfing
Pudding Mittens Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2017, 5:35 PM EST
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Kerbey wrote:
Feral Flying Pig

Friends made it sound like it was going to give me a cigargasm and then make me a sandwich.
Not so much. It was OK, and at that price, no thanks. Of course if somebody handed me one I'd give it another try as I've only had the one.
I've had the same experience with the other LPs as well. People really seem to like them and maybe unreal expectations did it in for me..

DE seem to be masters at marketing and hype. I can get the same level of flavor and overall enjoyment from cigars costing a third as much, and they're widely and always available, too.

What those cheaper alternatives don't have is some ultra-cool, trendy marketing machine behind them headed by some NYC type all decked out in sunglasses and hip clothes plus ridiculous ad copy featuring stuff like calling a cigar "an algorithm" (REALLY?), but I can't smoke any of that, I can only pay through the nose for it and waste time hunting down constantly-scarce product, while other brands seem to have no problem keeping retailers' shelves consistently stocked with products of equivalent quality for a fraction of the price... so yeah, until someone comes up with a way to actually smoke a hip image, ridiculous descriptions and constant scarcity, I'll pass on the LPs.
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elRopo Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2017, 5:43 PM EST
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[quote=DrMaddVibe]Not talking Not talking Not talking






Your sister!


















BAZINGA!





I gots a seester but chee wouldn't let chu sneef her arm peets!whip
Zigarro Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, Mar 8 2017, 7:35 PM EST
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Montecristo and Monte-classic. I enjoyed Montecristo back in the 70's & 80's but these today are zero!
dgomberg Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Mar 9 2017, 7:13 AM EST
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I havent heard any hype on the interwebz, but my local shpo just recently got Regius cigars in and they were acting like they were the next coming of jesus. i can think of many different cigars at the $10 price point.

This is also the point where I learned to take everything the shpo owner said with a grain of salt.... "everything he has is gold and everything everyone else has is garbage"

Thank the lord its getting warmer here in Masshole nation so i can start lighting up outside!
dharbolt Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Mar 9 2017, 8:18 AM EST
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^^

A certain small West coast shpo blows "batches" of these out from time to time. I've heard good things...
jjanecka Offline
#26 Posted: Thu, Mar 9 2017, 8:47 AM EST
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Regius? They look ok, still can't justify buying one though. I really have a feeling like others they're not gonna be that great.
dgomberg Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Mar 9 2017, 8:55 AM EST
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dharbolt wrote:
^^

A certain small West coast shpo blows "batches" of these out from time to time. I've heard good things...


The cigar itself wasnt bad.... just did not live up to the hype.
KingoftheCove Offline
#28 Posted: Thu, Mar 9 2017, 8:58 AM EST
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dgomberg wrote:
I havent heard any hype on the interwebz, but my local shpo just recently got Regius cigars in and they were acting like they were the next coming of jesus. i can think of many different cigars at the $10 price point.

This is also the point where I learned to take everything the shpo owner said with a grain of salt.... "everything he has is gold and everything everyone else has is garbage"

Thank the lord its getting warmer here in Masshole nation so i can start lighting up outside!

Well I have very little experience with them...........as in, one cigar............that a botl from another group gifted me at a herf 2 or 3 years ago.
It was a 2013 Regius Orchant,...........big Robusto........and that's all I remember.......it was a darker wrapper, but not maduro dark.
One of the best, if not THE best cigar I've ever smoked..............spectacular.
I tried to get more, but the 2013s were gone, and the few that were left here and there were crazy$$$...........and I wasn't going to spend that on 2014 release not knowing if they were that good.
KingoftheCove Offline
#29 Posted: Thu, Mar 9 2017, 9:00 AM EST
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dharbolt wrote:
^^

A certain small West coast shpo blows "batches" of these out from time to time. I've heard good things...

Can I have some info please............pm..........thx
Hank_The_Tank Offline
#30 Posted: Thu, Mar 9 2017, 9:24 AM EST
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I am overly appreciative that I have been given another chance at the RASCC, due to the generosity of Youngra (I am assuming it is the same one...looks like it). Going to smoke this one while doing nothing else other than trying to enjoy it.
frankj1 Offline
#31 Posted: Thu, Mar 9 2017, 10:57 PM EST
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gummy jones wrote:
id disagree
they are like $4 cigars and are pleasurable and consistent in that and even a slightly higher price range

if you expect them to be a $10 cigar then yes, i would agree that they are over rated in that regard

even though you unfriended me (sob), I agree with you.

Probably the most dependable cigar line anywhere, one after the other, year after year, just continues having the same ease of draw, the same flavor profile, and the same affordability.

Now, if someone just doesn't care for a particular flavor profile, that may not equal "overrated". Not when they just keep rolling out consistency for years.
jjanecka Offline
#32 Posted: Thu, Mar 9 2017, 11:49 PM EST
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Graycliff...
bgz Offline
#33 Posted: Fri, Mar 10 2017, 2:45 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
even though you unfriended me (sob), I agree with you.

Probably the most dependable cigar line anywhere, one after the other, year after year, just continues having the same ease of draw, the same flavor profile, and the same affordability.

Now, if someone just doesn't care for a particular flavor profile, that may not equal "overrated". Not when they just keep rolling out consistency for years.


^this
stinger88 Offline
#34 Posted: Fri, Mar 10 2017, 7:52 AM EST
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To me the Padron x000 series is a pretty damn good smoke. The key is to age that sucker for a long a$$ time.

Personally I like LPs. The taste might not me complex but you sure as hell know you are smoking a cigar, with an abundance of smoke billowing out of the cigar.

I can't say the Olivia V's have me jumping for joy but they are a solid smoke.

On another note "cigargasm" cracked me up. Never heard that term before.
Mr. Jones Offline
#35 Posted: Fri, Mar 10 2017, 8:14 AM EST
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Anything in the entire BAHIA LINE UP...
AND THE ENTIRE GREYCLIFF LINE UP

BAHIA WAS supposed to be a BIG BOUTIQUE
SECRECT....KINDA LIKE GREYCLIFF RESORT CIGARS
IN THE BAHAMAS....

I REMEMBER "wayback" on the forum
"Mr. WIZARD" ( the president of Bahia)
Getting on the forum and threating to YANK his
CIGARS off this site....seems like it was all a
"HOT air threat " on his part....his feelings gots' all
Hurt like...to bad , most of his CIGARS suck....
Same with GREYCLIFF ( but At least they have a few
Good ones)

I just won some Bahia white label Connecticut Deluxe
Robustos last week ( to try and use for yard gars)
But man are they harsh, loosely rolled and burn all canoe like. I was shooting for the "buck a stick"
Price point but missed 40 for $45...
I may sell them at flea markets in
Five packs for $7.50-$10.00, if I can?

The John Bulls churchills @ 30 for $31.00
Are WAY BETTER THAN THE BAHIA C.D.'s
tonygraz Offline
#36 Posted: Fri, Mar 10 2017, 9:20 AM EST
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Bahia Deluxe are not great cigars, they are yard gars. The only decent low cost Bahia's is the Maduro line. Now the old Bahia Gold, Gold maduro and gold maduro white label cigars are quite good. I have many of them aging. Tried the new Bahia Gold box press and was not pleased - maybe after a longer nap. Haven't found a good Graycliff yet - heck I haven't even found one worth a buck as a yard gar.
Stinkdyr Offline
#37 Posted: Fri, Mar 10 2017, 10:41 AM EST
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jjanecka wrote:
Graycliff...



Amen to that, brother!

Applause
midmofan Offline
#38 Posted: Fri, Mar 10 2017, 1:07 PM EST
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jjanecka wrote:
Graycliff...



Second...er...Third that.

The strange thing is the the very first Graycliffs I ever had were in a sampler from the Mothership and they were outstanding. I knew it wasn't really made down at the resort like a "real" Graycliff, but it was a really amazing smoke. Even gave it a great review at CI. That suckered me into ordering them again and, wow, blah, yuch and no-thank-you. On the off chance that I had an unlucky batch, picked up a single at the Superstore and same thing - lousy.

My other entry into this is Punch Bareknuckle. This is a horrible cigar but always gets featured on several sites. I am guessing its like the Last Supper in "History of the World Part 1" - "Push the Malt Wine"
Pudding Mittens Offline
#39 Posted: Fri, Mar 10 2017, 1:26 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
Bahia Deluxe are not great cigars, they are yard gars. The only decent low cost Bahia's is the Maduro line. Now the old Bahia Gold, Gold maduro and gold maduro white label cigars are quite good. I have many of them aging. Tried the new Bahia Gold box press and was not pleased - maybe after a longer nap. Haven't found a good Graycliff yet - heck I haven't even found one worth a buck as a yard gar.

Buy a bundle of Bahia Blus and forget you have them for a few years. They turn into a really nice cigar.

And yes, Graycliffs taste like nothing, unravel and flake themselves into self-destruction as you smoke, burn unevenly and MSRP for like $20 (but typically aren't worth $1). It's so bad that a major online retailer I'll call "The Opposite of Pacific" Cigars completely stopped selling Graycliffs some years back, and for awhile their Graycliff brand page was replaced with text saying that they're no longer carried because their quality is terrible and their prices are high. I believe the page is completely gone now though (along with the brand).
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gummy jones Offline
#40 Posted: Fri, Mar 10 2017, 2:24 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
even though you unfriended me (sob), I agree with you.


try as you may
you shall not get back into my good graces
unfriended Speak to the hand

im gummy jones and i support this message
delta1 Offline
#41 Posted: Fri, Mar 10 2017, 2:32 PM EST
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^ dang....can't we all get along?...sniff...
gummy jones Offline
#42 Posted: Fri, Mar 10 2017, 2:34 PM EST
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nope
now that #cigarbidpocalypse has occurred lines must be drawn and sides chosen
delta1 Offline
#43 Posted: Fri, Mar 10 2017, 2:36 PM EST
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gulp...how can you tell if someone is a zombie?
gummy jones Offline
#44 Posted: Fri, Mar 10 2017, 3:02 PM EST
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if they are currently eating your face, most likely they are a zombie
if they are not then it is 50/50
DrafterX Offline
#45 Posted: Fri, Mar 10 2017, 3:06 PM EST
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Double tap first.. ask later... Mellow
RMAN4443 Offline
#46 Posted: Fri, Mar 10 2017, 3:07 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
gulp...how can you tell if someone is a zombie?

I'm pretty sure if they try to eat your brain, they're a Zombie.....Anxious
Stinkdyr Offline
#47 Posted: Fri, Mar 10 2017, 3:14 PM EST
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jjanecka wrote:
Graycliff...


Actually.....maybe these DON'T qualify as over-rated, since everyone here seems to hate them.

Think
delta1 Offline
#48 Posted: Fri, Mar 10 2017, 3:43 PM EST
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RMAN4443 wrote:
I'm pretty sure if they try to eat your brain, they're a Zombie.....Anxious


hah...poor zombies will starve if they wanna feed on our brains...
elRopo Offline
#49 Posted: Fri, Mar 10 2017, 3:45 PM EST
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I never smoke over rated cigars.
DCLover Offline
#50 Posted: Fri, Mar 10 2017, 6:36 PM EST
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dgomberg wrote:
I havent heard any hype on the interwebz, but my local shpo just recently got Regius cigars in and they were acting like they were the next coming of jesus. i can think of many different cigars at the $10 price point.

This is also the point where I learned to take everything the shpo owner said with a grain of salt.... "everything he has is gold and everything everyone else has is garbage"

Thank the lord its getting warmer here in Masshole nation so i can start lighting up outside!

Your shpo obviously does not protect you.
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