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DrafterX Offline
#51 Posted: Fri, Jan 19 2018, 6:35 PM EST
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Laugh
frankj1 Offline
#52 Posted: Fri, Jan 19 2018, 6:38 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Laugh

exactly!
tailgater Offline
#53 Posted: Fri, Jan 19 2018, 8:11 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Anyone who whines and complains about cities like NYC and SF having a homeless problem because of their "endless social welfare" and hasn't themselves killed a homeless person is just flapping their lips.

If you aren't willing to find a way to help them, and you aren't willing to kill them off, then you're just a whiny part of the problem.


If we can just condense this so it will fit on a bumper sticker.
HuckFinn Offline
#54 Posted: Fri, Jan 19 2018, 8:18 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
If we can just condense this so it will fit on a bumper sticker.



Would work on a bus
TMCTLT Offline
#55 Posted: Sat, Jan 20 2018, 6:47 AM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
Not a big believer in Christian charity, eh? Your choice. Homelessness is largely symptomatic of problems with us, our society. *ducks tomatoes
In all likelihood these people were once happy kids. So, given what we know about them now, if we'd the option, when they were still in the womb should they have been aborted? *guessing you said no there cause babies are more valuable than grownups, right? * cabbage now
Most cities have limited bus and train routes to their neighboring suburbs. The homeless are essentially trapped in urban areas.They have no insurance and depend on Medicaid/Medicare which is readily accepted at county (urban) hospitals. Also, city cops are more tolerant than suburban cops. So your suburb is safe. Take a deep breath.

Finally, is your reasoning so simplistic (aka Trumpian) that you actually think anything short of opening my doors to homeless folks makes it hypocritical for me to post an excerpt from A Christmas Carol signifying my sentiments? And btw, do you really have No compassion for these sick/destitute people? Again, your choice.
So my volunteering at soup kitchens, mentoring kids, and charitable donations don't count. Wait! You're not homeless, are ya?..Maybe I should reconsider...?...ok, nah. *locks door
Yeah, I don't know how to solve homelessness but I DO know it's not simple (Trumpian) and I sure as hell know I don't want YOU in charge of it especially now as I hear the actual gas chambers from Auschwitz are on sale at Ebay.




I'd say on the whole that very much depends on the city....some have little tolerance @ all.
Ever wonder why soup kitchens can't be manned by those who benefit from them?? I have.


You socialists always trying to somehow prove " your more caring and sensitive " Stop with the hand outs and give them some qualifications to land a JOB. Don't tell me none of these people you defend cannot WORK
8trackdisco Offline
#56 Posted: Sat, Jan 20 2018, 9:02 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:

Ever wonder why soup kitchens can't be manned by those who benefit from them?? I have.


Help me understand this comment. ^
8trackdisco Offline
#57 Posted: Sat, Jan 20 2018, 9:06 AM EST
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Our governor is working to pass a law forcing drug tests to be taken and passed in order to qualify for benefits.

More than reasonable.

In the current state, where is the motivation to work?

If getting paid for getting drunk or high seems like the "job" many of these seem to have the needed qualifications.
tailgater Offline
#58 Posted: Sat, Jan 20 2018, 10:55 AM EST
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Government benefits should require drug testing.

Welfare. That's an easy one.
Government workers. ALL of them.
Corporate owners who get tax breaks. Yup, them too.

You want MY money?
Then prove you're not on drugs.

DrafterX Offline
#59 Posted: Sat, Jan 20 2018, 11:00 AM EST
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Except for pot of course... Mellow
HuckFinn Offline
#60 Posted: Sat, Jan 20 2018, 11:21 AM EST
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And pharmaceuticals
opelmanta1900 Offline
#61 Posted: Sat, Jan 20 2018, 11:29 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Don't tell me none of these people you defend cannot WORK
opelmanta1900 Offline
#62 Posted: Sat, Jan 20 2018, 11:32 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Government benefits should require drug testing.

Welfare. That's an easy one.
Government workers. ALL of them.
Corporate owners who get tax breaks. Yup, them too.

You want MY money?
Then prove you're not on drugs.


You do realize this is an internet forum that literally centers around the use of one specific drug....
Gene363 Offline
#63 Posted: Sat, Jan 20 2018, 11:55 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
I'd say on the whole that very much depends on the city....some have little tolerance @ all.
Ever wonder why soup kitchens can't be manned by those who benefit from them?? I have.


You socialists always trying to somehow prove " your more caring and sensitive " Stop with the hand outs and give them some qualifications to land a JOB. Don't tell me none of these people you defend cannot WORK


Exactly. I started working in South Carolina right after Hurricane Hugo wreaked havoc. I joined a local church group putting roofs back on low income family homes in the Charleston area. I tried to get the group and the folks they were coordinating with in the area to get local folks to work with us and learn how to do their own roofing. Oh, no, we just fix them in place, nothing to improve their situation. Some of these folks used a pitcher pump for water, had an outhouse not far from the well and heated the house with wood.

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.
Phil222 Offline
#64 Posted: Sat, Jan 20 2018, 12:01 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Government benefits should require drug testing.

Welfare. That's an easy one.
Government workers. ALL of them.
Corporate owners who get tax breaks. Yup, them too.

You want MY money?
Then prove you're not on drugs.



It has been tried for welfare. Waste of money.

https://thinkprogress.org/what-7-states-discovered-after-spending-more-than-1-million-drug-testing-welfare-recipients-c346e0b4305d/

Now our elected officals on the other hand...anything to piss them off.
delta1 Offline
#65 Posted: Sat, Jan 20 2018, 12:10 PM EST
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HELP or KILL the Homeless <---------bumpersticker worthy?
SteveS Offline
#66 Posted: Sat, Jan 20 2018, 2:21 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
HELP or KILL the Homeless <---------bumpersticker worthy?


I sorta like the idea of buying them a bus ticket for an out of town destination ... pile 'em up in DC where all the government people can see and step around 'em ...
HuckFinn Offline
#67 Posted: Sat, Jan 20 2018, 3:16 PM EST
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SteveS wrote:
I sorta like the idea of buying them a bus ticket for an out of town destination ... pile 'em up in DC where all the government people can see and step around 'em ...

Lawmakers don't live in DC like they used to.
Most fly in and out weekly.
SteveS Offline
#68 Posted: Sat, Jan 20 2018, 8:33 PM EST
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SteveS wrote:
I sorta like the idea of buying them a bus ticket for an out of town destination ... pile 'em up in DC where all the government people can see and step around 'em ...

HuckFinn wrote:
Lawmakers don't live in DC like they used to. Most fly in and out weekly.


No matter ... I don't actually live in SF, but the homeless tend to mass themselves near entrances to BART and at the bus station as well as in popular places such as Union Square making them impossible to ignore when commuting into The City for work or play ...
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