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Trump supporters, does this make you proud?
Speyside Offline
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The Washington Post

'Mr. Magoo’: Trump’s private nickname for Sessions raises intriguing questions.
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iirc, didn't Mr. Magoo usually wind up on the positive side, safe and sound?
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feels weird to feel bad for... or root for Sessions!
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Mr. Magoo couldn't see anything, right?

The perfect attribute for the orange imbecile's AG.
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I liked Mr. Magoo.. Mellow
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ah, Magoo. You've done it again.

the late great Jim Backus.
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Thurston Howell III
DrafterX Offline
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Laugh
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It does feel weird to support Sessions.
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The talking heads are saying Mueller is investigating Trump’s threats to fire Sessions
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Of course they are... Heard that on CNN did you... Another attempt to pressure an investigation... Mellow
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Something about obstruction of something or other
Speyside Offline
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The orange wall seems to be crumbling.
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Speyside wrote:
The orange wall seems to be crumbling.

Home Depot????
DrafterX Offline
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Well, it's not like he's funding Hezbollah or somethin.. Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
Well, it's not like he's funding Hezbollah or somethin.. Mellow

Or killing Bin Laden?
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DrafterX wrote:
Of course they are... Heard that on CNN did you... Another attempt to pressure an investigation... Mellow

the only attempts to pressure the investigation are coming from Trump, not the coverage of the investigation...

I am sorry.
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Wonder if Donald can move all dem confiscated assault rifles on Lebanese Ebay
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HuckFinn wrote:
Or killing Bin Laden?



The orange imbecile would have rushed into the compound and killed Bin Laden by himself using only his bare hands.
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Trump has mentioned there should be investigations into crimes that were ignored by the previous administration... I would have to agree.. Mellow
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+1
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Actually as I recall there were lots of investigations in to Hillary. Drafter and his man Trump just don’t accept the outcomes.

Anyone that thinks mueller won’t follow ant lead that leads him to trump or hillary is an idiot and a fool.

The oil is also looking in to things. What trump wants is a political smear job.
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Hillary lost.. why would he want a political smear job...


Wait, what do you consider a smear job..?? Huh
teedubbya Offline
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Reaccusing someone of things they had already been investigated for, claiming to know other things they did wrong and need to be investigated, using such rhetoric because you yourself are being investigated etc. it’s really clear and disappointing some pretend they don’t see it.

The president repeatedly calling for investigation of his political opponent..... yea that’s just normal.
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If it wasn't for the obvious cover-up I'd agree... Things were done expecting Hillary to be elected and never heard of again.. buying the DNC, the dossier just to name a couple.. we all know there's more.. Mellow
Speyside Offline
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Trump is president, congress is controlled by the Republicans, this has been true for a year, yet no indictments. What obvious cover up? You think the Republicans are continuing the cover up? Oh, I get it you think Trump is continuing the cover up and should be charged with something.
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As we all know, but many choose to ignore, Republicans have the majority but not control... Mellow
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Maybe after the next election... Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
If it wasn't for the obvious cover-up I'd agree... Things were done expecting Hillary to be elected and never heard of again.. buying the DNC, the dossier just to name a couple.. we all know there's more.. Mellow



Mueller is a Republican and a straight shooter. If he saw trouble with hillary he’d go after it. There is no obvious cover up and I have to admit I find that line of thinking truly bizarre and not based in reality.

You are buying the smoke screen being thrown up. I’m not buying trump is guilty yet but you are buying hillary was and she should be investigated not trump. Silliness.
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DrafterX wrote:
As we all know, but many choose to ignore, Republicans have the majority but not control... Mellow



And the republicans do have control. Control over the justice department, control over the house which is running a mockery of an investigation. Even if trump is cleared (hopefully he will be) Nunes will go down as a pathetic sad character in political history. The senate is the one place the republicans have control but it’s not total.

The fbi is largely republican, as is justice. The smear saying they are somehow libs now is silly. Deep down in you know this. You are just supporting your man trump blindly.
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How do we forget Hillary's crimes so easily..?? Because the Comey was told to give her a pass doesn't mean she's innocent.. the damn server was illegal.. wiping it was illegal.. destroying cell phones and iPads was illegal.. others have gone to jail for much less... Why is this ignored..?? Huh

Like I said, Trump tried to give her a pass... Mellow
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You may not like the result, or the law but it isn’t secret. The result and justification is out there. You can proclaim it to be whatever you want but you are simply wrong.

And to keep throwing that out there to protect your man trump or justify his crap is really sad.
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You keep bringing up stuff that has been investigated multiple times. You know what, she is innocent. In our country the standard is innocent until proven guilty. Do I like her, no, did I vote for her no, would I want her for president no. Would I be as voracious about posting what is verifiable about her if she was president instead of Trump yes. And TW is right, that you parrot Trumps crap is sad, though I think he is being nice, pathetic seems more accurate to me.
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LOL

Because she got away with it she's innocent... Ok... Laugh
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I gotta give her some credit tho.. it truly was a criminal mastermind that put it all together.. unfortunately for her she lost.. otherwise it woulda been the perfect crime... Mellow
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It’s not like OJ. If she’s guilty she can still go to trial. And the republicans have total control over that. There is just no there there. And you know it.

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Remember when trumps investigators had all the proof on birtherism and we’d find out soon? Obama was guilty too.
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And Obama coulda squashed that but he chose to divide.. Mellow
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Look, there's been a year of investigation of Trump's supposed collusion with the Russians and they found nothing against him... And because I didn't jump on the anti-Trump bandwagon I'm the bad guy... It is sad.. Mellow
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Who says they haven’t found anything. The investigation isn’t in to “trump”. There are now 4 or 5 convictions and many more indightments. I hope it doesn’t get to Trump but the investigation still needs to keep going.

Don’t confuse mueller still working and putting the prices together as found nothing. They may have, they may not have.

The Hillary investigation(s) were longer and they came up with nothing prosecutable. Yet you want it to start again.

I’m no fan of either. I never want to defend Hillary. But if you believe your nonsense and gyrations you are crazy. I hope you are kidding.

And the birtherism is Obama’s own fault he could have stopped it is dumb. Sorry. Just is. There are folks in here that still are birthers. It was dumb at the time it’s dumb now.
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Again you're ignoring the obvious crimes that would have taken most people down.. Comey's report was altered so it wouldn't take her down... Changing the word negligent to careless was all it took to give her a pass.. but it doesn't mean she didn't break the law... To ignore that is political bias... Mellow
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No I’m not ignoring anything. It was investigated and the evidence is still out there. Coney and the fbi don’t decide guilt. They investigate.

It can still be prosecuted. It’s bit. The Rs have total say in it at this point. They can’t prove a crime period. Or they would.

You want them to and wish they could. They can’t. The fact that you can’t or won’t recognize that doesn’t change anything.
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Sorry darafter I appreciate your fixation but you just don’t get it and it’s becomming harder and harder to take you seriously on this.

Then to use it to say trump and crew shouldn’t be investigated or to justify their actions is really hypocritical.

It just doesn’t make sense and I hope at some level you don’t beleive what you say. If you do then Jared has a building at 666 to sell you.
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Ok, so she didn't have an illegal server that stored top secret info.. she didn't wipe the illegal server after it was summoned.. she didn't destroy celk phones and iPads after being summoned.. top secret info wasn't discovered on Weiner's laptop used by her assistant... She didn't lie about it.. the list is long... But we should just ignore it... Mellow
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I never said Trump shouldn't be investigated.. if something turns up worth while I'll condemn him... But just because CNN says somethin should be investigated doesn't mean it should be. Mellow
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My fixation is just respect for the office... Sorry but that's just how I was raised... Mellow
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I am kinda saddened that because my outlook is different than yours you think i'm f^cked in da head or somethin.. the facts are there against Hillary.. and I've stated if true facts bring Trump down so be it.. speculation just isn't enough for me to jump on the hate wagon... Mellow
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Reagan, Clinton, Bush and Obama broke my heart at one time... but I gave them a chance... Mellow
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Hate from day one blows my mind.. Mellow
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Drafter it’s your fixation on hillary and this weird thing to connect it to Trump when there is no connection. It’s two separate things that shouldn’t keep getting connected. Trump does it as a diversionary thing. I’m not sure why you and others do. You do and have hated her “from day 1”. I take no issue with that. I do too. That doesn’t mean I have to leave logic behind. She did do things wrong. Many investigations happened. It’s public what went wrong. No credible legal minds beleive there is much if any chance of prosecuting for any criminal behavior based on the law. Her opponents and people that hate her as much as you and I control the mechanisms to do so and would gladly do it if they even thought they had a 30-40 percent chance. They don’t.

As for trump I do t like him. Never have. It’s not political to me I didn’t like him a few years ago when he was a democrat. I hope he did nothing wrong for the good of the country. I honestly hope lifelong Republican Mueller clears him. I also beleive Mueller is looking in to Russian influence and any crimes uncovered along the way. To me that includes if fisa courts were abused, if the dems had improper contacts etc. his charge doesn’t say Republican or trump abuses only.. his charge is from Republicans and it is dumb to think he’d ignore dem wrong doing but go after R or T wrong doing only. That defies logic and ignores who and what he has been over the years.

Every now and then Mueller drops an indightment or plea. Very little if any leaking. It seems to me the leaks we do see are from the folks he questions. It would not surprise me to see an indightment against some dems if he sees anything. If not I’d guess he’s looked and seen nothing. He’s got no reason and it makes no sense that he’d be an anti R hound dog other than some of the dumb conspiracy crap out there. That narrative is only meant to attempt to discredit the investigation or to obstruct it. It just doesn’t hunt.

So to you birtherism was Obama’s fault. Hillary’s crimes were clear and prosecutable but her opponents (republicans) who control that just won’t do it. Hillary’s opponents will go after Trump hard though and that’s just not fair.

I just do t get it. But I’ll listen and my mind can be changed.

I’ve hated Hillary since day 1 much like you. I’ve never liked Trump. I can’t take him seriously. But I hope he’s clean for the good of the country. If he’s not I hope they nail him. I don’t understand the need to link the trump investigation to hillary (actually I do but it’s nefarious). I also beleive all the attempts to muddy the current investigation is the opposite of wanting the truth. And using every tool to do so is telling. If not agreeing with that is to be painted by hate and hate alone than so be it. Sounds like opposite land to me.


DrafterX wrote:
I never said Trump shouldn't be investigated.. if something turns up worth while I'll condemn him... But just because CNN says somethin should be investigated doesn't mean it should be. Mellow



This is awesome. You never said he shouldn’t be investigated and if something is found you would condemn him. Then you suggest there should be no investigation just because CNN says there should be. I’m not aware of any investigation occurring because CNN says there should be.

I am aware of an effort to discredit the press and tie them to the investigation. That effort says there should be no investigation which of course you have never said. It sure seems like you are firmly in that camp.
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