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DrafterX Offline
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I heard that's already happening... And they used some to plug up some tunnels... Mellow
delta1 Offline
#102 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
You might find some Asian dude with one like yours but that doesn't make it the norm.. Not talking



wait....what???


ram27bat
DrafterX Offline
#103 Posted:
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I was just trying to give him some hope... Mellow
delta1 Offline
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RMAN4443 wrote:
If you get arrested on a Friday for a warrant on outstanding traffic tickets, you will be taken into custody and held in jail for the weekend(for failure to appear or pay tickets when due)....if you have your children with you they will be placed with youth services if you have no one to take them....at least that's how it went for me in Mass. about 30 years ago.

I got arrested on Friday of Labor Day weekend and remained in jail until court convened on Tuesday...my son was 4 years old.....luckily I was in Mass visiting family and someone could come get him, or he would have been placed with Youth Services

Actually that happened in No. Randolph as I was pulling out of Eli and Chris's Shell station....Frank will know where that is


that is not what's happened with some of the children brought in illegally...they were taken and separated from their parents/families and sent to other detention facilities without adequate steps taken to identify them and the adults who they arrived with...as a result, there are more than 2,000 children who we are trying to identify and re-unite...these kids have no idea where their parents are and the parents have no idea where their kids are...

in your case, the govt. made a mistake in taking you into custody, but they fulfilled their humanitarian obligation to ensure the safety of your kids, even though you were a suspected criminal... your children were placed in a custodial and safe environment, and YOU KNEW where they were and they could have visited you while you were incarcerated...that responsibility remains today...when people are arrested, the state has to take some protective measures to ensure the safety of the arrestee's kids...and inform the arrestee...

as for the argument that some people entering the country illegally are bringing in some stranger's kids in order to game the system...only people who've never travelled long distances with their own kids, let alone someone else's kids, are saying that...
delta1 Offline
#105 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
I was just trying to give him some hope... Mellow


How Trumpian of you...willing to insult a whole race of people just to mollify one person...
























we're good, tho, Bro!
DrafterX Offline
#106 Posted:
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Laugh
frankj1 Offline
#107 Posted:
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RMAN4443 wrote:
wow, how old are they....they were old when I was a little kid visiting my Gramps when he worked there in the late 60's early 70's....I still have cases of Hot Wheels from the giveaway days....stil have about a dozen of the steak knives too...fog
it's possible Eli and Chris were the original partners and the guy I called Chris is neither but is the 50/60ish son of one of the originals...but an Alexopoulis in any event.
bs_kwaj Offline
#108 Posted:
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And how about them dufuses at Time Magazine?


Oh wait... what were we talking about? Think

Beer
jjanecka Offline
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So that image on the magazine cover didn't symbolize the strong narrative that the liberal left is out of line, acting like babies, and are being disciplined by the president as if he were a father to them?

Because that's what I took from the cover...
HuckFinn Offline
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jjanecka wrote:
So that image on the magazine cover didn't symbolize the strong narrative that 66% of Americans are against Trump's policy of separating children from their parents , especially babies, and are being seriously maltreated by a president (who lost the popular vote) that thinks he should be king even though he lacks a moral compass?
Because that's what 66% of americans took from the cover...



Fify




RMAN4443 Offline
#111 Posted:
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jjanecka wrote:
So that image on the magazine cover didn't symbolize the strong narrative that 66% of Americans are against Trump's policy of separating children from their parents , especially babies, and are being seriously maltreated by a president (who lost the popular vote) that thinks he should be king even though he lacks a moral compass?
Because that's what 66% of americans took from the cover...



HuckFinn wrote:
Fify





98.2% of people who point to unsupported statistics have been shown in a poll to be full of Ka-Ka, 98.2 % of the time Not talking
delta1 Offline
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Here's an article that describes the poll, and includes the exact question and a demographic breakdown of those responding...


https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/6/18/17475740/family-separation-poll-polling-border-trump-children-immigrant-families-parents
HuckFinn Offline
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RMAN4443 wrote:
jjanecka wrote:
So that image on the magazine cover didn't symbolize the strong narrative that 66% of Americans are against Trump's policy of separating children from their parents , especially babies, and are being seriously maltreated by a president (who lost the popular vote) that thinks he should be king even though he lacks a moral compass?
Because that's what 66% of americans took from the cover...




98.2% of people who point to unsupported statistics have been shown in a poll to be full of Ka-Ka, 98.2 % of the time Not talking

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/two-thirds-of-americans-say-separating-children-parents-at-border-unacceptable/

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/6/18/17475740/family-separation-poll-polling-border-trump-children-immigrant-families-parents

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/06/18/two-thirds-of-americans-oppose-trumps-family-separation-policy/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.cc3962a37a94


https://ctmirror.org/2018/06/18/poll-strong-opposition-trump-policy-separating-immigrant-children-parents/

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2550

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/18/politics/immigration-trump-approval/index.html

I case my rest.
delta1 Offline
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Here's an article about false statements made regarding the Trump Administration's zero-tolerance policy that separated children from their families...just so we can have an actual debate with actual knowledge of the facts. Too often, we get our "facts" from a preferred cable opinion channel: Trump/Fox vs Dem/CNN

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/more-bogus-border-claims/


When one compares the "news" from Fox and CNN, it becomes clear who has done a better job of factual reporting and who are the real purveyors of fake news...
bgz Offline
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^ Fake news. Looked at the home page, looks like an arm of CNN to me.

Hard to think a site is biased if every article is nothing but trump this, trump that, trumps cronies this... you get the point.
victor809 Offline
#116 Posted:
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... when 98.2% of the lies these days are being told by trump himself, I wouldn't be too surprised to find him the primary topic of a "fact check" site...
tailgater Offline
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Especially a site that embodies a partisan viewpoint.

DrafterX Offline
#118 Posted:
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Man, the Dems are really dragging this thing out... Out marching the streets to make Trump do something he did two weeks ago.... Think
delta1 Offline
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He signed an order, then winked and nodded at DHS, HHS and ICE...they haven't re-united many kids with their families yet...

besides, weather is getting nice, let's all go outside and take a walk, get some exercise instead of sitting at home getting outraged watching TV...

if we had done any prior planning, we coulda met somewhere between SoCal and OK, and walked with some peeps...
delta1 Offline
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tailgater wrote:
Especially a site that embodies a partisan viewpoint.



look up "AllSides" a media bias rating site and lmk your opinion...
HuckFinn Offline
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Saw this on the news: 31% of Americans think U.S. Civil War Likely Soon.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/june_201
8/31_think_u_s_civil_war_likely_soon

Why do I suspect we all know that and don't give a chit...?
DrafterX Offline
#122 Posted:
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Just another scare tactic.. damn drama queens.. Mad
ZRX1200 Offline
#123 Posted:
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Either way I'm locked and loaded.
DrafterX Offline
#124 Posted:
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Yep... We better strike first before they strike us.. Mellow
Speyside Offline
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What a piece of work you are. Sounding off loud and proud that you are ready to kill someone.
ZRX1200 Offline
#126 Posted:
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Mellow

Me or Drafter?
ZRX1200 Offline
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Some antifa types interrupted the Patriot protest in Portland d. Started throwing rocks, bottles and fights. Police revoked the permit and told the Patriot group to leave.....

The ones that fought got their asses kicked, that was funny.
delta1 Offline
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bgz wrote:
^ Fake news. Looked at the home page, looks like an arm of CNN to me.

Hard to think a site is biased if every article is nothing but trump this, trump that, trumps cronies this... you get the point.


He's the President, so he should be a subject ...did you check the other subject matter out...

so your standard is that if a media site doesn't puff and fawn over Trump, they're putting out fake news...that's Trump's view of the media, and he's so believable...

look up "AllSides" and LMK whether you think their media bias ratings are accurate. They seem to be spot on with those that are well-known and mainstream and also extreme. Then check how they describe this source that you call "fake news".


I believe FOX News commentary/opinion is "fake news"...they have become Trump's vocal messaging source, and state as gospel truth whatever Trump says...much of what he says have been proven demonstrably false...

examples: Germany's crime rate caused by immigration... we're re-uniting immigrant children...immigrants are rapists and murderers, they're criminals...Russian investigation is a made up witch hunt...FBI and DOJ are biased, incompetent and out to get Trump...spygate, the biggest scandal in political history...the biggest middle class tax cut in history...the Seth Rich murder...Hillary's sales of x% to 100% of US plutonium to Russia...Obama wire-tapped Trump Tower...ad nauseam...
delta1 Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Some antifa types interrupted the Patriot protest in Portland d. Started throwing rocks, bottles and fights. Police revoked the permit and told the Patriot group to leave.....

The ones that fought got their asses kicked, that was funny.


you're saying the Patriots are pro-fascism...
Speyside Offline
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Drafters bad joke. Using deadly force is no joking matter. I am more than good with you being locked and loaded. Now that I live in Illinois in relatively close proximity to some bad areas you can bet I am too.
DrafterX Offline
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Fine.. I'll wait till someone shoots me first... Not talking
HuckFinn Offline
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So Time used a photoshopped picture on a cover. Broke your little hearts.
Really?

Big flucking deal.

Where was your outrage when Tucker Carlson's The Daily Caller posted interviews with women who claimed NJ's Bob Menendez paid them for sex five days before the 2012 New Jersey senate election? Especially even after all the women admitted they'd been paid off, bout $300 a pop by the Daily Caller to lie about the sex. (Who never apologized, Time did)

Yeah, but a photoshopped photo. That's Unethical? Don't get it...

Fox has misinformed forever: it convinced its audience Iraq was involved in the 9/11attacks and had wmds, commandeering opinion, and all based on a bald-faced lie Fox's audience bought into much more than cnn's or cbs's did. Fox was relentless.

....vs. a photoshopped picture of a child on a cover. Seriously? The Humanity!?

Fox has its audience denying global warming despite the fact that 97% of scientists say it's real? .... photoshopped kid...

Sure, liberal, conservative and main stream (whatever that is these days, liberal also?) exaggerate and sometimes misinform, but a freaking doctored photo that encapsulated a very specific, heartfelt sentiment compared to some other lies we're actually impacted by?

Nah. It's a picture. Time made a dumb call. Not cancelling my subscription.

A pic. Big flucking deal.


bs_kwaj Offline
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Will we be able to pick new colors? Blue and Gray seem kinda drab and maybe a bit dated now.

And I'm not really gonna wanna shoot anybody just because they're stupid.

Beer
delta1 Offline
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seems this "I gotta get ready for the on-coming civil war" on the right fever pops up every now and then... I really don't know if more cons believe this or libs believe this...be interesting to know...

my past experience has been that my con friends seemed more anxious and concerned about an imminent war of some kind: ie - race war between whites and blacks in the early 90's due to Rodney King and OJ riots; and the Apocalypse is here by my devout Christian con friends during the Iraq War, some openly hoping for Jesus's return after a nuclear holocaust...

I get being prepared, but my gosh...seems almost like wishful thinking for an excuse to go out and blast people you don't like or agree with...
RMAN4443 Offline
#135 Posted:
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HuckFinn wrote:
So Time used a photoshopped picture on a cover. Broke your little hearts.
Really?

Big flucking deal.

Where was your outrage when Tucker Carlson's The Daily Caller posted interviews with women who claimed NJ's Bob Menendez paid them for sex five days before the 2012 New Jersey senate election? Especially even after all the women admitted they'd been paid off, bout $300 a pop by the Daily Caller to lie about the sex. (Who never apologized, Time did)

Yeah, but a photoshopped photo. That's Unethical? Don't get it...

Fox has misinformed forever: it convinced its audience Iraq was involved in the 9/11attacks and had wmds, commandeering opinion, and all based on a bald-faced lie Fox's audience bought into much more than cnn's or cbs's did. Fox was relentless.

....vs. a photoshopped picture of a child on a cover. Seriously? The Humanity!?

Fox has its audience denying global warming despite the fact that 97% of scientists say it's real? .... photoshopped kid...

Sure, liberal, conservative and main stream (whatever that is these days, liberal also?) exaggerate and sometimes misinform, but a freaking doctored photo that encapsulated a very specific, heartfelt sentiment compared to some other lies we're actually impacted by?

Nah. It's a picture. Time made a dumb call. Not cancelling my subscription.

A pic. Big flucking deal.




It's not a first for Time magazine:
http://www.alteredimagesbdc.org/oj-simpson

and who knows how many other cover phots they altered to fit their needs
DrafterX Offline
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Divide and conquer... Convince half of America the President is evil and law enforcement is out to get you.. a war won't happen but some of the weak-minded will take calls for retaliation literally and do something stupid.. Mellow
HuckFinn Offline
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RMAN4443 wrote:
It's not a first for Time magazine:
http://www.alteredimagesbdc.org/oj-simpson

and who knows how many other cover phots they altered to fit their needs

You seem to have missed or opted to ignore my point. Which is big deal.
With all that's actually misreported? All the blatant Trump lies? The obvious collusion.
All that's likely to actually harm society?
The planet? Our democracy?

Please.
DrafterX Offline
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https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/26/business/3-cnn-journalists-resign-after-retracted-story-on-trump-ally.html

Think
RMAN4443 Offline
#139 Posted:
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HuckFinn wrote:
You seem to have missed or opted to ignore my point. Which is big deal.
With all that's actually misreported? All the blatant Trump lies? The obvious collusion.
All that's likely to actually harm society?
The planet? Our democracy?

Please.

You seem to have missed my point.....Time magazine and many other media outlets have been lying to us since before Trump ever came onto the scene...who knows if what they tell us true...but you go ahead and enjoy your subscription to Time magazine

…..but maybe you got my point but missed your TDS meds today
DrafterX Offline
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He definitely forgot meds today... He sure loves his Time Magazine... Mellow
HuckFinn Offline
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RMAN4443 wrote:
You seem to have missed my point.....Time magazine and many other media outlets have been lying to us since before Trump ever came onto the scene...who knows if what they tell us true...but you go ahead and enjoy your subscription to Time magazine

…..but maybe you got my point but missed your TDS meds today

I stated clearly that all news sources do it.
But in the scheme of things? It's a freaking Pic!

Lying about global warming or colluding with the russians is a bigger deal.

Trump is a megomaniac heading us and the world in a direction I sure don't want to go.

Joke all you want. You're dillusional if you dont see guy's demented and dangerous.


HuckFinn Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
He definitely forgot meds today... He sure loves his Time Magazine... Mellow

I do.
RMAN4443 Offline
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HuckFinn wrote:
I stated clearly that all news sources do it.
But in the scheme of things? It's a freaking Pic!

Lying about global warming or colluding with the russians is a bigger deal.

Trump is a megomaniac heading us and the world in a direction I sure don't want to go.

Joke all you want. You're dillusional if you dont see guy's demented and dangerous.



I heard Al Gore wrote a book and made a movie about global warming that was full of lies and BS....

http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/03/30/al-gore-has-made-another-science-fiction-movie-about-global-warming/

A decade ago, Al Gore’s 2006 faux-umentary about climate change called “An Inconvenient Truth” won two Oscars. No, it wasn’t in the propaganda or fantasy category, though it should have been. It was filled with so many falsehoods that a British judge said it could not be shown to students unless it included a notice pointing out the errors.
DrafterX Offline
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It was nice of him to invent the internet tho... Mellow
HuckFinn Offline
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RMAN4443 wrote:
I heard Al Gore wrote a book and made a movie about global warming that was full of lies and BS....

http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/03/30/al-gore-has-made-another-science-fiction-movie-about-global-warming/

A decade ago, Al Gore’s 2006 faux-umentary about climate change called “An Inconvenient Truth” won two Oscars. No, it wasn’t in the propaganda or fantasy category, though it should have been. It was filled with so many falsehoods that a British judge said it could not be shown to students unless it included a notice pointing out the errors.


Wtf does this have to do with anything?
Unless you think global warming is a myth and need to see Gore as a personification of the lefts lies and liars. Suit yourself.

You want to trade lies? Google Trump lies. Fox lies.

It was bad judgement to use that photoshopped photo. I've said that ad nauseum.

Regarding Gores case, civil court, it was brought by a school governor against the Secretary of State for Education, who was trying to stop the film from being distributed in UK schools.
Justice Burton ordered that teaching notes accompanying the film should be modified to clarify the speculative (and occasionally hyperbolic) presentation of some issues.

But Burton found no errors at all in the science. In his written judgement, the word error appears in quotes each time it is used – nine points formed the entirety of his judgement - indicating that he did not support the assertion the points were erroneous.

Gore made points that have subsequently been disputed and substantiated.
But Global Warming is real. But who gives a fluck, right?
The 97% of scientists that say it's man-made and happening must be in on the lie I guess? Pinkos.
RMAN4443 Offline
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HuckFinn wrote:
Wtf does this have to do with anything?
Unless you think global warming is a myth and need to see Gore as a personification of the lefts lies and liars. Suit yourself.

You want to trade lies? Google Trump lies. Fox lies.

It was bad judgement to use that photoshopped photo. I've said that ad nauseum.

Regarding Gores case, civil court, it was brought by a school governor against the Secretary of State for Education, who was trying to stop the film from being distributed in UK schools.
Justice Burton ordered that teaching notes accompanying the film should be modified to clarify the speculative (and occasionally hyperbolic) presentation of some issues.

But Burton found no errors at all in the science. In his written judgement, the word error appears in quotes each time it is used – nine points formed the entirety of his judgement - indicating that he did not support the assertion the points were erroneous.

Gore made points that have subsequently been disputed and substantiated.
But Global Warming is real. But who gives a fluck, right?
The 97% of scientists that say it's man-made and happening must be in on the lie I guess? Pinkos.

Bill Clinton lies, Hillary Clinton lies,Obama lies, Al Gore lies, Nancy Pelosi lies, CNN lie....gee, this is kinda fun...

Gore also made points that were proven wrong in the decade or so since he since he made them to us as fact....
http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/03/an-inconvenient-review-after-10-years-al-gores-film-is-still-alarmingly-inaccurate/



I believe it was 98.2% of scientists, wasn't it? And I don't know but I do assume they must be in on it...Collusion and all that, don't ya know

http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/03/an-inconvenient-review-after-10-years-al-gores-film-is-still-alarmingly-inaccurate/

But if you believe it and Time magazine says it's true, I guess it must be true Not talking
HuckFinn Offline
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RMAN4443 wrote:
Bill Clinton lies, Hillary Clinton lies,Obama lies, Al Gore lies, Nancy Pelosi lies, CNN lie....gee, this is kinda fun...

Gore also made points that were proven wrong in the decade or so since he since he made them to us as fact....
http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/03/an-inconvenient-review-after-10-years-al-gores-film-is-still-alarmingly-inaccurate/



I believe it was 98.2% of scientists, wasn't it? And I don't know but I do assume they must be in on it...Collusion and all that, don't ya know

http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/03/an-inconvenient-review-after-10-years-al-gores-film-is-still-alarmingly-inaccurate/

But if you believe it and Time magazine says it's true, I guess it must be true Not talking

Probably doesn't matter to you but I just lost a lot of respect for you Rick.

Seriously...I'm wondering, why bother..seems like some sort of dialectic game for you..but it's just a stupid waste of time the way I see it..

You think Trump is a savior...I think he's malignant..you split hairs about Global Warming like it's a joke and cite the Daily Caller..I strongly believe global-warming is real, destroying our planet and should be apolitical and wonder if you even know who the Daily Caller is, their agenda..origins...and mission

so what's the point?

I read the Daily Caller. There are some really smart well-intentioned writers there.
I read Time.

Maybe you ought to break out of your bubble and get both sides of stories/issues once in a while.
Unless you just like to argue and hear yourself talk with us lefties.
In which case, like I said, I'm out.

Did you think that because I openly admitted to reading Time, and you and others in here clearly hate the magazine, you could win some brownie points with con cbiders?
Maybe even embarrass me?

Screw that.

Your last post is nonsensical and petty.

But I'm sure Donald would be proud.
ZRX1200 Offline
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I'm proud.
RMAN4443 Offline
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HuckFinn wrote:
Probably doesn't matter to you but I just lost a lot of respect for you Rick.

Seriously...I'm wondering, why bother..seems like some sort of dialectic game for you..but it's just a stupid waste of time the way I see it..

You think Trump is a savior...I think he's malignant..you split hairs about Global Warming like it's a joke and cite the Daily Caller..I strongly believe global-warming is real, destroying our planet and should be apolitical and wonder if you even know who the Daily Caller is, their agenda..origins...and mission

so what's the point?

I read the Daily Caller. There are some really smart well-intentioned writers there.
I read Time.

Maybe you ought to break out of your bubble and get both sides of stories/issues once in a while.
Unless you just like to argue and hear yourself talk with us lefties.
In which case, like I said, I'm out.

Did you think that because I openly admitted to reading Time, and you and others in here clearly hate the magazine, you could win some brownie points with con cbiders?
Maybe even embarrass me?

Screw that.

Your last post is nonsensical and petty.

But I'm sure Donald would be proud.

I never said Trump was any kind of savior..... I read news from lots of sources, so I'm not really living in a bubble, just responding to your trading lies statement and the other statements you've made that I'm supposed to take your word for, you the guy who tells me it's no big deal that Time lied to me....it's only a pic yes, but the picture was a lie...or was it only a symbol of a lie....maybe your plan is working, I'm getting confused

I'm honestly not going for brownie points from anyone here on cbid...what's that going to get me??

I do see you telling me that Time can lie to me and it's no big deal....that it's not "fake news", but a symbol...well, the way I was brought up they flat out lied to me...fool me once shame on you, fool me twice....you know how it goes...

your right it's not worth it to try to change your mind...so carry on...
victor809 Offline
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RMAN4443 wrote:


I do see you telling me that Time can lie to me and it's no big deal....that it's not "fake news", but a symbol...well, the way I was brought up they flat out lied to me...fool me once shame on you, fool me twice....you know how it goes...



I find this kind of funny.

The truth is they didn't "flat out lie" to you.

It's a magazine cover with two figures photoshopped to be facing each other on a clearly non-real background.

Where is the lie?

The people running around claiming it's a lie are using the fact that this crying child in particular was not separated from it's parents. That doesn't make the cover a lie. you identify it as a lie, because that particular crying child is emblematic.

If they had drawn a child, you would not have called it a lie. Because there are crying children, and by not specifying a specific child, people's association with a particular incident disappears. The issue as a generality still exists.

If they had used an actor of some sort, you would have not had any reason to call it a lie... (I'm assuming you wouldn't)... as they would be purposefully dramatizing an existing issue for the cover.

They could have used any of the well known memes of crying children, completely unassociated with the current issue, and you would have understood their cover without having any reason to call it a lie....

So... I find it funny you would call this a lie....

I'd call it dumb. They could have done this a number of different ways without creating this issue... but they didn't. But to call it a lie is to show you don't really understand the point behind the cover. (I'll give you a hint... the cover was about a larger issue, which impacts many children... it isn't about one crying kid).
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