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Speyside Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 11:45 AM EST
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I think this is shameful. I truely believe something traumatised her. It's not going to end, Trump is an azzhole and he has reached a new low. She may be completely wrong about Kavanaugh, but no one deserves this.
dstieger Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 11:53 AM EST
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Take comfort, Spey. This isn't close to his low to date. And, he'll gladly prove it isn't close to a low bar going forward.
victor809 Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 11:56 AM EST
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Speyside wrote:
I think this is shameful. I truely believe something traumatised her. It's not going to end, Trump is an azzhole and he has reached a new low. She may be completely wrong about Kavanaugh, but no one deserves this.


You're wrong. We deserve this.

:)

He is a terrible, spoiled infant. And he is exactly what the american populace (or at least the percentage that voted and happens to live in locations made more significant by the electoral system) wanted.

He's terrible at being a president, wastes more time at the golf course, or on vacation, or stumping for other republican candidates than any other president to date.... and still manages to show us he's a terrible person.

But that's fine. Give it another 6 years.
DrafterX Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 12:04 PM EST
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Turns out her 'recovered memory' could very likely be a 'recovered dream'.... Mellow
Krazeehorse Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 12:40 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Turns out her 'recovered memory' could very likely be a 'recovered dream'.... Mellow


??? Link?
delta1 Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 12:47 PM EST
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the pink wave is gonna wash him out before his next term...women are turning him off and turning out to run for office in record numbers...

Trump's only hope is that there are still enough women who think sexual assault is ok if the man is powerful and wealthy ... there's a large number of them in solid red states... if they turn out to vote for the GOP and him, in as great numbers as they've done in the past, the party and him can swing another term...
dstieger Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 1:01 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
the pink wave is gonna wash him out before his next term...women are turning him off and turning out to run for office in record numbers...

Trump's only hope is that there are still enough women who think sexual assault is ok if the man is powerful and wealthy ... there's a large number of them in solid red states... if they turn out to vote for the GOP and him, in as great numbers as they've done in the past, the party and him can swing another term...


I'd be ok if you were right, Delta, but I am not at all sure you are.

I'd be surprised if a lot of those turned off women that you are talking about voted for him last time.

He's got a very long list of negative attributes or characteristics...no argument....but please list those that weren't already apparent in October of 2016. The biggest difference in Trump 2016 and Trump 2018 is that he can point to a list of accomplishments now --- actions that reflect negatively shouldn't really have surprised anyone, so I doubt there's a huge net negative in potential votes...at it stands right now
victor809 Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 1:08 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
the pink wave is gonna wash him out before his next term...women are turning him off and turning out to run for office in record numbers...

Trump's only hope is that there are still enough women who think sexual assault is ok if the man is powerful and wealthy ... there's a large number of them in solid red states... if they turn out to vote for the GOP and him, in as great numbers as they've done in the past, the party and him can swing another term...


63% of white women voted for Roy Moore...

Nothing is going to change delta...

opelmanta1900 Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 1:22 PM EST
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Ya but he's dreamy...
tailgater Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 1:23 PM EST
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Krazeehorse wrote:
??? Link?


www.SelectiveMemory.org
tailgater Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 1:27 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
I think this is shameful. I truely believe something traumatised her. It's not going to end, Trump is an azzhole and he has reached a new low. She may be completely wrong about Kavanaugh, but no one deserves this.


For the record, it was shameful.

I wish he didn't those things in the manner that he did.

Now excuse me.
Things are so F'ing busy at work right now due to the booming economy that I have to get back to things.
delta1 Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 1:39 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
I'd be ok if you were right, Delta, but I am not at all sure you are.

I'd be surprised if a lot of those turned off women that you are talking about voted for him last time.

He's got a very long list of negative attributes or characteristics...no argument....but please list those that weren't already apparent in October of 2016. The biggest difference in Trump 2016 and Trump 2018 is that he can point to a list of accomplishments now --- actions that reflect negatively shouldn't really have surprised anyone, so I doubt there's a huge net negative in potential votes...at it stands right now


yup...his base is very solid, as are the percentage of GOP who are solidly behind him. It will be interesting to see the places where women are changing their minds about him and the party: the closest swing states that surprisingly supported him and turned the election in his favor in 2016: Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin...I'm curious to see the results of the mid-term elections there and in Florida, North Carolina and Arizona...places where there are significant numbers of educated and minority women, the demographic that seems the most animated against the GOP and Trump...

personally, I think it's a good thing for our country that more women have decided to seek leadership roles...the age of male dominance has led us here, and most people believe it's not a healthy place...
delta1 Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 1:41 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
For the record, it was shameful.

I wish he didn't those things in the manner that he did.

Now excuse me.
Things are so F'ing busy at work right now due to the booming economy that I have to get back to things.





he didn't build that...
ZRX1200 Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 3:48 PM EST
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Stating facts isn’t mocking.

Making up a story and lying at the 11th hour is disgraceful to this process and real victims.
Speyside Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 5:12 PM EST
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Tail, I agree with you about the economy.
bgz Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 5:23 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Stating facts isn’t mocking.

Making up a story and lying at the 11th hour is disgraceful to this process and real victims.


Ya. If he was mocking, he would have been using that fake meek school girl voice she was using.

I wasn't buying it. It seems most people say she sounded credible (most people as in the PC media and politicians), I disagree, I thought she sounded fake.
HuckFinn Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 7:22 PM EST
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Really? People are surprised at Trump mocking people?

The guy is classless.

He mocked a disabled reporter for Christ's sake!

A war hero and devoted civil servant John McCain. He called the whole state of Iowa stupid, Mexicans rapists, tried to humiliate Megan Kelly referencing her period!!?!?

..and this is the short list...

Trump.

He's garbage. He makes us garbage.

From what I'm hearing here it's now okay to hold 15yo girls down, especially with your best bud's help, cover their mouths so their screams don't get heard and grope em. Really?

That's OK now? Thanks Don. Ya pos. **** *****-grabbing pos.

Used to think conservatives and some religious groups somehow had a fair share of the moral high ground.

Was always bullchit.
rfenst Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 7:33 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
For the record, it was shameful.


I agree.
DrafterX Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 7:34 PM EST
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I'm not garbage... I'm a deplorable.. Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 7:50 PM EST
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And according to Hillary I'm racist, sexist, Islamophobic and anti-LGBTQ....

Think
Abrignac Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 8:29 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
Really? People are surprised at Trump mocking people?

The guy is classless.

He mocked a disabled reporter for Christ's sake!

A war hero and devoted civil servant John McCain. He called the whole state of Iowa stupid, Mexicans rapists, tried to humiliate Megan Kelly referencing her period!!?!?

..and this is the short list...

Trump.

He's garbage. He makes us garbage.

From what I'm hearing here it's now okay to hold 15yo girls down, especially with your best bud's help, cover their mouths so their screams don't get heard and grope em. Really?

That's OK now? Thanks Don. Ya pos. **** *****-grabbing pos.

Used to think conservatives and some religious groups somehow had a fair share of the moral high ground.

Was always bullchit.


The wheels on the bus go round and round.

Seven investigations and nothing, zilch, nada. Kavanaugh should sue the pants the pants off her. Find another poster child for your outrage as the current one you plastered on the wall is severely lacking.

Krazeehorse Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 8:45 PM EST
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There are a LOT of women that think Ford is a joke. They just don't put on funny hats and take to the streets, hence no press. Even if they did show up in droves somewhere the MSM wouldn't cover it.
HuckFinn Offline
#23 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 9:44 PM EST
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I'm talking about Trump’s mocking Ford.

Her accusations can't be verified. I get that.

But if we can't know the truth, and there's a chance she's being totally honest, what gives Trump the right to mock her?
What kind of man would do that??


So because he was up in front if his supporters that like to hear him insult people he does it? Azzhole..

If we allow that there is even a 50/50 chance that she was groped, his ridiculing her to get a laugh is some very sick chit.

Our president is mentally ill.
DrafterX Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 10:03 PM EST
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Dr. Ford is obviously f'd in da head... Why else would she be seeking a psychiatrists help... He awakens some dream/fantasy she had 36 years ago and here we are... Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 10:13 PM EST
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Her story is a classic dream.. I've had many dreams with encounters of women.. where we were, how I got there, or how I got home is a mystery.. but it sure seemed real.. except for the time a reached under the bra to find cupcakes.. I still wonder about that one.. Think
frankj1 Offline
#26 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 10:19 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Her story is a classic dream.. I've had many dreams with encounters of women.. where we were, how I got there, or how I got home is a mystery.. but it sure seemed real.. except for the time a reached under the bra to find cupcakes.. I still wonder about that one.. Think

cupcakes, according to Freud, symbolize man's eternal search for dessert.
It's perfectly normal to have such dreams.
DrafterX Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 10:22 PM EST
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Cool... They were very nice cupcakes... Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#28 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 10:25 PM EST
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Even had cherries on top... Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#29 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 10:30 PM EST
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I get the picture
DrafterX Offline
#30 Posted: Thu, Oct 4 2018, 10:35 PM EST
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I was disappointed... Mellow
delta1 Offline
#31 Posted: Fri, Oct 5 2018, 2:20 PM EST
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Anita Hill II...something may or may not have happened, but she believes it happened, so she's wacko...

I guess these allegations are false only when you like the guy...we may never know who's telling the truth, but she answered every question and he avoided answering a lot of questions, and was obviously lying when answering some questions...

be interesting to see the FBI report and the limitations/parameters set by WH/Senate...


...nothing's changed since Thomas v Hill, despite all the rich and powerful men who have been brought down in the past 2-3 years...now we're told we have to worry about our boys

nope...a real parent knows you have to worry more about your girls
DrafterX Offline
#32 Posted: Fri, Oct 5 2018, 5:20 PM EST
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Hillary was someone's girl once... Mellow
bgz Offline
#33 Posted: Fri, Oct 5 2018, 7:54 PM EST
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Apparently there were a lot of people worried about her.
DrafterX Offline
#34 Posted: Fri, Oct 5 2018, 8:00 PM EST
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I heard Ted Kennedy dry-humped her once... Mellow
Whistlebritches Offline
#35 Posted: Fri, Oct 5 2018, 10:02 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
I think this is shameful. I truely believe something traumatised her. It's not going to end, Trump is an azzhole and he has reached a new low. She may be completely wrong about Kavanaugh, but no one deserves this.


First of all I only read the first post cause I really don't care what anyone else said..........Ya know Spey after watching her testimony I think she deserves all the ridicule she gets.As a matter of fact she she should receive jail time for that pathetic fictitious performance.If you bought that bullschit all I can say is .........you're either as gullible as anyone ever born or you're such a liberal siccofant you just don't care about the truth.

Oh yea.....what traumatized her is being born one of the ugliest biotches I have ever seen.I wouldn't dry hump her with your d1ck
DrafterX Offline
#36 Posted: Fri, Oct 5 2018, 10:09 PM EST
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Guilty until proven innocent seems to be the style of the times.. Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#37 Posted: Fri, Oct 5 2018, 10:34 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Guilty until proven innocent seems to be the style of the times.. Mellow

it was a better country when the style was wearing an onion on your belt.
MACS Offline
#38 Posted: Sat, Oct 6 2018, 12:33 AM EST
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Some people deserve to be mocked.
HuckFinn Offline
#39 Posted: Sat, Oct 6 2018, 8:47 AM EST
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Every bully's motto.
DrafterX Offline
#40 Posted: Sat, Oct 6 2018, 8:49 AM EST
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You couldn't get the white ones cause of the war.. Mellow
tailgater Offline
#41 Posted: Sat, Oct 6 2018, 9:44 AM EST
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delta1 wrote:
he didn't build that...


Applause
That's a heep big paleface lie.
tailgater Offline
#42 Posted: Sat, Oct 6 2018, 9:51 AM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
I'm talking about Trump’s mocking Ford.

Her accusations can't be verified. I get that.

But if we can't know the truth, and there's a chance she's being totally honest, what gives Trump the right to mock her?
What kind of man would do that??


So because he was up in front if his supporters that like to hear him insult people he does it? Azzhole..

If we allow that there is even a 50/50 chance that she was groped, his ridiculing her to get a laugh is some very sick chit.

Our president is mentally ill.


No.
You don't "get it".

Her accusations aren't verified because the FBI investigation couldn't get one person to corroborate. Not even the people who "believe" her and are "in her camp".

A reasonable person would conclude that Ford is lying.

Yet half of America believes her because they WANT it to be true.

There is literally no other explanation.
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#43 Posted: Sat, Oct 6 2018, 9:59 AM EST
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I think a few of her Stanford Undergaduate CIA INTERNS set up a crash pad apartment in a "safe house" and decorated it in retro 1980's Decor...then they got Ford drunk and stoned at the crash pad then HIP-MO-TIZED THE WAYNE & GARTH BROAD putting selective memories into her noggin...

It was for a CIA CLASS ASSIGNMENT she was not privy to before the "purty"...
HuckFinn Offline
#44 Posted: Sat, Oct 6 2018, 10:34 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
No.
You don't "get it".

Her accusations aren't verified because the FBI investigation couldn't get one person to corroborate. Not even the people who "believe" her and are "in her camp".

A reasonable person would conclude that Ford is lying.

Yet half of America believes her because they WANT it to be true.

There is literally no other explanation.




Talk about partisanship TG!

Are you saying without corroboration abuses/crimes can't be perpetrated?
If a tree falls in the forest, and there's nobody around to hear, it doesn't make a sound?
Thanks for clearing that up.

He's lying because he wants the job. In fairness, if there was ever a time to lie, especially knowing there's no way to know the real truth, now would be the time! Hardly begrudge him that...

She told the truth because she couldn't stand the fact that a blackout drunk groper was being awarded a seat on the Supreme Court.

I understand most here don't agree with the above. Why?
Partisan politics. I get it.

But you're wrong.
Because it's just a matter of cons vs. Libs, this good old boy who believes that it's okay to terrify and manhandle a girl is going to try to help repeal abortion. Soooooo..knock em up and deny them abortions.

I get it.
bgz Offline
#45 Posted: Sat, Oct 6 2018, 10:51 AM EST
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I watched it, I thought she looked phony AF. I'm pro abortion, so Kavanaugh isn't my ideal judge... but what they did to him is twisted and sick.

I don't think the president mocked her, but I wouldn't care if he did. I think she's lying.
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#46 Posted: Sat, Oct 6 2018, 10:56 AM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:


She told the truth because she couldn't stand the fact that a blackout drunk groper was being awarded a seat on the Supreme Court.


But she didn't think it worth the effort for a circuit judge? Sorry. I'm like most Americans and not buying into that.
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#47 Posted: Sat, Oct 6 2018, 11:54 AM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:


She told her version of the truth because she couldn't stand the fact that an "alleged" blackout drunk groper was being awarded a seat on the Supreme Court....and she had a severe case of TDS....Liar



I get it.

FIFY

and we all know, I'm dumb and you DGAF......friggen Hucktard!!!!
frankj1 Offline
#48 Posted: Sat, Oct 6 2018, 12:36 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
You couldn't get the white ones cause of the war.. Mellow

so great!
tailgater Offline
#49 Posted: Sat, Oct 6 2018, 12:47 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
Talk about partisanship TG!

Are you saying without corroboration abuses/crimes can't be perpetrated?
If a tree falls in the forest, and there's nobody around to hear, it doesn't make a sound?
Thanks for clearing that up.

He's lying because he wants the job. In fairness, if there was ever a time to lie, especially knowing there's no way to know the real truth, now would be the time! Hardly begrudge him that...

She told the truth because she couldn't stand the fact that a blackout drunk groper was being awarded a seat on the Supreme Court.

I understand most here don't agree with the above. Why?
Partisan politics. I get it.

But you're wrong.
Because it's just a matter of cons vs. Libs, this good old boy who believes that it's okay to terrify and manhandle a girl is going to try to help repeal abortion. Soooooo..knock em up and deny them abortions.

I get it.


I've said all along that "something" happened to her.
But her coached responses have hidden the truth so deep that we'll never know.
I doubt it even involved Kavanaugh, based on what we know to be true (truth = not Ford's and not Kavanaugh's words).


As a society we need to believe the accusers in order to find justice.
But when the data points to a different truth, we can't ignore it simply because we have empathy.
You call it partisan, but it's the exact opposite.

My partisan side wants a conservative judge to be appointed.
The facts support the defense of the conservative judge.
Doesn't make the facts less true. Or my viewpoint more biased.
Opinions that counter the facts, on the other hand, are driven solely by partisan bias.

YMMV
frankj1 Offline
#50 Posted: Sat, Oct 6 2018, 12:52 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
I've said all along that "something" happened to her.
But her coached responses have hidden the truth so deep that we'll never know.
I doubt it even involved Kavanaugh, based on what we know to be true (truth = not Ford's and not Kavanaugh's words).


As a society we need to believe the accusers in order to find justice.
But when the data points to a different truth, we can't ignore it simply because we have empathy.
You call it partisan, but it's the exact opposite.

My partisan side wants a conservative judge to be appointed.
The facts support the defense of the conservative judge.
Doesn't make the facts less true. Or my viewpoint more biased.
Opinions that counter the facts, on the other hand, are driven solely by partisan bias.

YMMV




politics and specifics to this case have nothing to do with my feelings in general, so you may find it odd that I feel the opposite protects us all in a better way.
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