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CelticBomber Offline
#51 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
Don’t try to minimize it - we all know the real deal....



I was going to ignore this but then I thought screw that. I used to try and have civil political discussions here. That didn't work AT ALL. Everyone can Kumbaya about how we can all disagree but, still respect each other but, that only goes for certain people. I don't venture down here into the political forum often but, when I have OH BOY! You guys think you know all kinds of things about me as a person. You don't. I spend most of my time up in the trades forum and I KNOW I've been a pretty decent guy up there. I figured out a LONG time ago how things work down here, I'm a bright guy, I also have a very dry sense of humor. I will write books just to get you guys to contradict yourselves and get you guys to show your own hypocrisy and never point it out. I'm that God Damned Funny!

So in reply to your post.


Do you? Do you really?

Hope everyone is having a wonderful day!Wub
Tittums Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
starting with inaccuracies in paragraph one leads to little respect for opinions that follow. Google search yielded no convictions of Hillary, and she's not President anyway. You got your win when the much maligned Comey reopened the case just before the election. This is now an obsession.

The Biden lie, personally withholding aid, has been known to be nonsense for so long it's no longer worth trying to fix it in your brain.


Ahh yes, I forget. I should have qualified the guilt of Joe and Hillary with "unindicted". I guess I will have to settle for that, just like you are going to have to settle for an unindicted Trump. Comey was no more a win than the much-celebrated "forever" qualifier to the house's impeachment. These good sir are lies disguised as wins. No, impeachment forever will not due for you anymore than Comey being out of jail will due for me.

frankj1 wrote:
However, it is an effective defense strategy. Party over country...I find that way of thinking destructive.


I have elevated Trump to Godhood so for me it is faith over everything else. Donald Hu Ackbar.
frankj1 Offline
#53 Posted:
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avoided it again.
I understand.

I do enjoy our coffee in the morning though!

HA!

ZRX1200 Offline
#54 Posted:
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Hmmm....deflection to a cop out.
Mr. Jones Offline
#55 Posted:
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When "the evidence" is never found or never even there...

The COPS ..."COP OUT" AND PLANT FALSE EVIDENCE...

That stuff is so FALSE that even a dirty hand picked grand jury won't even indict a innocent TARGETED INDIVIDUAL...

When "planting false evidence" doesn't work...then the
COPS try to MAKE YOU have a deadly accident, or just direct w/live field real time logistics to foriegn Somali hit squads at the HIMALAYAN GRILL IN LANCASTER PA TO FAKE HEART ATTACK POISON YOUR WATER GLASS....

THAT IS A "COP OUT"

GET TO KNOW MR. JONES' LIFE since 2012...
dstieger Offline
#56 Posted:
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Bush league...no quality team would use Somali in a curry place....not even trying to blend in?
frankj1 Offline
#57 Posted:
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try the momo...and don't forget to tip your waitress.
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#58 Posted:
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CelticBomber wrote:
I was going to ignore this but then I thought screw that. I used to try and have civil political discussions here. That didn't work AT ALL. Everyone can Kumbaya about how we can all disagree but, still respect each other but, that only goes for certain people. I don't venture down here into the political forum often but, when I have OH BOY! You guys think you know all kinds of things about me as a person. You don't. I spend most of my time up in the trades forum and I KNOW I've been a pretty decent guy up there. I figured out a LONG time ago how things work down here, I'm a bright guy, I also have a very dry sense of humor. I will write books just to get you guys to contradict yourselves and get you guys to show your own hypocrisy and never point it out. I'm that God Damned Funny!

So in reply to your post.


Do you? Do you really?

Hope everyone is having a wonderful day!Wub



Shame on you
CelticBomber Offline
#59 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
Shame on you


RollEyes
Brewha Online
#60 Posted:
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CelticBomber wrote:
I was going to ignore this but then I thought screw that. I used to try and have civil political discussions here. That didn't work AT ALL. Everyone can Kumbaya about how we can all disagree but, still respect each other but, that only goes for certain people. I don't venture down here into the political forum often but, when I have OH BOY! You guys think you know all kinds of things about me as a person. You don't. I spend most of my time up in the trades forum and I KNOW I've been a pretty decent guy up there. I figured out a LONG time ago how things work down here, I'm a bright guy, I also have a very dry sense of humor. I will write books just to get you guys to contradict yourselves and get you guys to show your own hypocrisy and never point it out. I'm that God Damned Funny!

So in reply to your post.


Do you? Do you really?

Hope everyone is having a wonderful day!Wub

Actually, I don't think anyone knows how bad it is with Trump. Because I fear it is much worse than with think.

But, in deference to your wit and wisdom, I feel we should grant you Stable Genius status.
You're welcome!
CelticBomber Offline
#61 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
Actually, I don't think anyone knows how bad it is with Trump. Because I fear it is much worse than with think.

But, in deference to your wit and wisdom, I feel we should grant you Stable Genius status.
You're welcome!



"Stable" might be a bridge to far....
Tittums Offline
#62 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
Actually, I don't think anyone knows how bad it is with Trump. Because I fear it is much worse than with think.


Do tell us how bad it is. Maybe I can masturbate while voting for Trump just thinking about how your life is so horrible under Trump.
Brewha Online
#63 Posted:
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Tittums wrote:
Do tell us how bad it is. Maybe I can masturbate while voting for Trump just thinking about how your life is so horrible under Trump.

No - you just go right a head and jerk off on your own.

Maybe just think about Trump showing you his “burger hole”....
ZRX1200 Offline
#64 Posted:
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If he talks to himself he could get a semi-circle jerk going....
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Tittums, why couldn't someone be Republican, Civil Libertarian, Green Party, Independent, or Democrat and intensely dislike Trump. Conversley why couldn't someone from any of those groups intensely like Trump? Ok, I'm being facetious, Democrats and Green Party members are incapable of liking Trump.

But perhaps this is a better question, why can't I like some of his political accomplishments, dislike some of his political accomplishments, and not respect him as a human being?
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Speyside wrote:
Tittums, why couldn't someone be Republican, Civil Libertarian, Green Party, Independent, or Democrat and intensely dislike Trump. Conversley why couldn't someone from any of those groups intensely like Trump? Ok, I'm being facetious, Democrats and Green Party members are incapable of liking Trump.

But perhaps this is a better question, why can't I like some of his political accomplishments, dislike some of his political accomplishments, and not respect him as a human being?


You can. If I worded what I said in a way that you cannot then that is my fault. But here's the thing. What choice is there but Trump? Of the candidates that have anything resembling a chance they all want to bankrupt the country. This is what is frustrating. If you hate Trump enough to not vote for him you're willing to bankrupt the country to get rid of him.
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#67 Posted:
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neither party has been good about that, Trump isn't any improvement either.

You can talk debt and deficit, he's possibly worse, even was quoted as saying he didn't care about it at all very recently.
Because membership here is 98.2% conservative it doesn't get mentioned. But had you been around here for Obama...WOW!
Even O's golfing took center stage, and those spending records have been smashed in a quarter of the time.

Voting differences may hinge more on where, how, and on whom you want the money spent...but make no mistake, he's leading us to financial disaster at least as rapidly as his predecessors.
For Americans, it seems to no longer be a concern.

However, he has the most experience in Bankruptcy of any elected official in our history...so at least he has that going for him.
ZRX1200 Offline
#68 Posted:
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Hmmmm...I never mentioned debt when W was in office? Weird....


Wait
frankj1 Offline
#69 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Hmmmm...I never mentioned debt when W was in office? Weird....


Wait

well, I joined in 2007, and truthfully didn't have you in mind when I replied to tittums.
But lots of "kicking the can down the road" and far harsher comments for 8 years from many members who have not bleated a complaint since Trump...am I wrong?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#70 Posted:
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Yes...you are wrong.

Yet, claim to not read all posts or have a short attention span.
frankj1 Offline
#71 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Yes...you are wrong.

Yet, claim to not read all posts or have a short attention span.

I seem to recall clearly you using the phrase "kick the can down the road" though...
but not during the current administration, but I will admit I may have missed it recently.

got any posts tearing Trump a new one over this?
Mr. Jones Offline
#72 Posted:
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Hmmmmmmmm

ZRX, FRANK, AND DMV.....

ALL Stow-walt ....and the like....old c-bid members...

Should be allies...not combat-tents...

Different views...but all great guys...

T.H.E. REAL BEAUTY OF CIGARBID FORUMS...

TANK U ,TANK U, TANK U ....

😎😎😎 Govt. civilian sub contractor past

frankj1 Offline
#73 Posted:
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Mr. Jones wrote:
Hmmmmmmmm

ZRX, FRANK, AND DMV.....

ALL Stow-walt ....and the like....old c-bid members...

Should be allies...not combat-tents...

Different views...but all great guys...

T.H.E. REAL BEAUTY OF CIGARBID FORUMS...

TANK U ,TANK U, TANK U ....

😎😎😎 Govt. civilian sub contractor past


not to worry.
I separate opinions from behavior...no carryover into relationships.

we'll never agree on this and other things, but really, who cares?
ZRX1200 Offline
#74 Posted:
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Frank and I always kiss and make up when we summer in the Catskills.
frankj1 Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Frank and I always kiss and make up when we summer in the Catskills.

what happens in the Catskills stays in the Catskills!
DrMaddVibe Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
I seem to recall clearly you using the phrase "kick the can down the road" though...
but not during the current administration, but I will admit I may have missed it recently.

got any posts tearing Trump a new one over this?


HockeyDad was famous for that quote...maybe I borrowed it but my sentiment has always been balance the budget. We cannot even get Congress to formulate a budget! That's their MAIN job! They are the controllers (comptrollers if you will) of the money.

I'm forever talking about a balanced budget and how we're out of control as a nation. I forever state how our grandchildren, the 1st generation born into a yoke of debt they had no part of creating. The SEARCH function is awesome.

Why just last week I talked about it...

http://www.cigarbid.com/...ke-a-oopsie#post4467828

Have to remember the President doesn't write legislation. He's been vocal about the debt as well and trying to get it under control. Most partisans won't take the time to look or hear what their political foes have to say. I pay attention.
frankj1 Offline
#77 Posted:
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yes, LeHockeyDad!

but please add this prez to the list of those who believe ignoring it have a better shot at popularity...he really did say just last week he didn't give a crepe about it.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#78 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:


but please add this prez to the list of those who believe ignoring it have a better shot at popularity...he really did say just last week he didn't give a crepe about it.


He's not ignoring it.

Read this...he's looking like a genius...his numbers are almost spot on for what was laid out.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trumps-balanced-budget-goal-rests-on-questionable-math-1495544546
Brewha Online
#79 Posted:
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Looks like the current budget maneuver is soon to come to fruition:
Step one, roll back corporate taxes to record lows.
Step two, watch the debt get staggering
Step three, roll back social security and medicare to pay for the corporate tax cuts.
Step four, raise taxes on the middle class.

Squat and watch....
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
He's not ignoring it.

Read this...he's looking like a genius...his numbers are almost spot on for what was laid out.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trumps-balanced-budget-goal-rests-on-questionable-math-1495544546


3 year old article that says his claims were based on questionable math...

or read this


End of Fiscal Year 2018
The total deficit for FY 2018 is $779 billion, with total spending clocking in at $4.1 trillion and total revenue at $3.3 trillion. The deficit grew by 17 percent ($113 billion) compared to FY 2017 and is the highest federal deficit in six years (since FY 2012).
bipartisanpolicy.org

I'm not singling him out, rather lumping him in.
but you are protecting him from your normal reaction to what's happening.

And I hold North American Rights to the phrase...I am like a genius
also...I am like uh idiot,
but that has produced less revenue.

DrMaddVibe Offline
#81 Posted:
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Ya know when someone doesn't take the time to actually read the article.

Know how I knew? All you saw was the date in the link. Yet in the article he has advisors stating evidence that has now been proven to be spot on. If they had exacted legislation based on what they advised we'd be on the road to a balanced budget.

Instead, we got the Shifty Schiff Sham $hit Show. All based on heresay, feelings and animosity. Um, the DNC decided to not put up a single viable candidate against Trump. There isn't one sane person running against Trump. Here's to him securing the House adding seats in the Senate and 4 more years!!!!
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Trump is no different than our last handful of presidents on the budget. No better no worse and they all deserve our scorn.

And that does not absolve recent congresses of the last several years controlled by both parties at some point or another.

All deserve scorn. But in here it is very selective where this scorn is placed.

Words mean nothing. Actions do.

teedubbya Offline
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And in no way shape or form is Trump a deficit hawk or warrior unless you drank the Tang.
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Ya know when someone doesn't take the time to actually read the article.

Know how I knew? All you saw was the date in the link. Yet in the article he has advisors stating evidence that has now been proven to be spot on. If they had exacted legislation based on what they advised we'd be on the road to a balanced budget.

Instead, we got the Shifty Schiff Sham $hit Show. All based on heresay, feelings and animosity. Um, the DNC decided to not put up a single viable candidate against Trump. There isn't one sane person running against Trump. Here's to him securing the House adding seats in the Senate and 4 more years!!!!


He had the House and Senate for his first two years, the two years that preceded this one when he finally lost the House. But it's Schiff's fault that the two years prior to this one the GOP controlled Senate and House failed...got it.

I read up to the point that it wanted me to sign up to see more. And it may have been an interesting story, possibly accurate prediction-wise, possibly an excuse piece, but a story consisting of words.

What I posted was the numbers, staggeringly poor numbers, so the story is meaningless in dollars and...sense.

TW wrote what I was saying better than I did...I am not singling him out for criticism from those who came before. But I am objecting to his elevation to undeserved sainthood. He has not performed better on these issues, worse than some even...worst since 2012, an interesting year for that fact.
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teedubbya wrote:
Trump is no different than our last handful of presidents on the budget. No better no worse and they all deserve our scorn.

And that does not absolve recent congresses of the last several years controlled by both parties at some point or another.



You should've stopped right there. Its the only thing in the post that mattered.
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frankj1 wrote:
He had the House and Senate for his first two years, the two years that preceded this one when he finally lost the House. But it's Schiff's fault that the two years prior to this one the GOP controlled Senate and House failed...got it.

I read up to the point that it wanted me to sign up to see more. And it may have been an interesting story, possibly accurate prediction-wise, possibly an excuse piece, but a story consisting of words.

What I posted was the numbers, staggeringly poor numbers, so the story is meaningless in dollars and...sense.

TW wrote what I was saying better than I did...I am not singling him out for criticism from those who came before. But I am objecting to his elevation to undeserved sainthood. He has not performed better on these issues, worse than some even...worst since 2012, an interesting year for that fact.



Oh for fuckks sake...the day he went down the escalator the left was screaming IMPEACHMENT!...we as a nation went through the RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA...when in fact the last administration was warned back in 2014 and did NOTHING! Then it was "Just wait for the Mueller Report...we're gonna crucify him"...splat, nothing burger. Then it became STORMY STORMY STORMY...she's still a whore and her lawyer is in jail, guess that didn't work out. Then it was UKRAINE UKRAINE UKRAINE...well, Obama didn't send them $hit when they needed it and stood by when Crimea was usurped into Russia, well because. Mind you Trump is Putin's bitch though while Mr.Swivlehips dive-bombs to his knees and did nothing. Got it.

Yes, spend a little money and read a worthwhile newspaper. You'd be surprised what you could learn when it's not spitting out of Ratchet Madcow's mouth!
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so the fact that you can't elevate his results above his predecessors is the Left's fault.
Well, at least that's different than claiming he was marvelous. But it's full of excuses.

So when Obama went down the escalator to the sounds of Mitch Mac saying the Senate's job now would be to prevent Obama from getting reelected, that was like a Spring Breeze?
And the rest of the right screaming birther hatred...see the parallels?

Again, I'm not saying he's alone in his failure, but will not accept that he has done well with these numbers
No more excuses.

You should know that Presdentin' Be Hard

Gotta be nice to the MRS, she's been very ill.
Hope to be back in a few...thanks. It's fun.
Brewha Online
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I dunno Frank, I think you are trying to sell the Hitler Youth the idea of being race blind....
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Brewha wrote:
I dunno Frank, I think you are trying to sell the Hitler Youth the idea of being race blind....

I kinda enjoy the process...

but I'm also thinking that even with the release of the bushel of the final factual incriminating dots currently in the custody of the White House, there would still be holdouts.

Does anyone think for one second that as impetuous as Trump is that if it wasn't damning he'd release it all just to be able to say he's innocent?

But it probably won't see the light of day, and the Dems may have totally misplayed a case in which they were actually correct...unless they figure, as we have seen in just the last week, that so much of it will become known that it will swing the election?

Even on this I think they blew it as it's tough for the electorate to change horses in midstream unless they trust that the new horse is capable of fording that stream.

Just look at me, a non radical left leaner who always votes...unless something unseen happens, I'm voting third party again.

If I was Parnas, I'd be wearing kevlar long johns
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Screaming chimps are screaming chimps.
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teedubbya wrote:
Screaming chimps are screaming chimps.

You know all the right things to say...
CelticBomber Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
what happens in the Catskills stays in the Catskills!



Not with all the noise you two make.... You're both screamers.
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I was faking it.
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frankj1 wrote:
I was faking it.

That’s anticlimactic
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izonfire wrote:
That’s anticlimactic

that's a good one
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izonfire wrote:
That’s anticlimactic



That is good. Well played. Applause
Brewha Online
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frankj1 wrote:
I kinda enjoy the process...

but I'm also thinking that even with the release of the bushel of the final factual incriminating dots currently in the custody of the White House, there would still be holdouts.

Does anyone think for one second that as impetuous as Trump is that if it wasn't damning he'd release it all just to be able to say he's innocent?

But it probably won't see the light of day, and the Dems may have totally misplayed a case in which they were actually correct...unless they figure, as we have seen in just the last week, that so much of it will become known that it will swing the election?

Even on this I think they blew it as it's tough for the electorate to change horses in midstream unless they trust that the new horse is capable of fording that stream.

Just look at me, a non radical left leaner who always votes...unless something unseen happens, I'm voting third party again.

If I was Parnas, I'd be wearing kevlar long johns

For what it is worth, the elections always seem to be about voting for the lesser of two evils. So when the folks tell me the answer is to not vote, or similarly vote independent, it worries me. One really good way to win is to get some people to not vote, effectively or other wise.

In the last election, people told me they would not vote if Bernie were not on the ticket. Many told me they only voted for Trump to not back Hillary. This is how we wound up with Spanky Von Cheeto.

But not the Hitler Youth - they were there all along...
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Brewha wrote:
But not the Hitler Youth - they were there all along...

Wow. They haven’t aged in 80 years.
Whatever they’re doing, it’s working for ‘em.
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#79

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/joe-biden-has-called-for-social-security-cuts-3-times/ar-AABuQbg?fbclid=IwAR3JyJBwBDjxSNSq-DvQzr8_sCs9I3ux_iNw3N-tRX36PnMDa2vtlIjNWtI
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frankj1 wrote:
so the fact that you can't elevate his results above his predecessors is the Left's fault.
Well, at least that's different than claiming he was marvelous. But it's full of excuses.


No, the fact you wouldn't read the article I stated proved that you just like the rest of the Democrats wouldn't listen. You can forget all about any compromise or real lasting solutions when the Left is blinded by their rage. Rage against one of their own. One that was once valued on their airwaves and whose opinions mattered. It was only when he crossed party lines like one of his idols (Ronald Reagan) and ran for office did he become reviled and hated. The Left gave him lifetime achievement awards for his benevolent charity and behavior and those same people now call him a racist. The Left call him a Russian operative but you can go back years, decades even and find him declaring American values. This was one of yours. Not a GOP homegrown waiting his turn, no. This was a man that waited and backed candidates that talked a good game but liked the cocktail parties and galas better than doing the work. This was a lifetime Democrat born from a lifetime Democrat. This is your guy he just has a different party affiliation! What's changed? Him or you? This guy is doing it for FREE and still hated for it.

Imagine if he had any support for anything America has wanted for decades where we would be now? Meanwhile, he's still doing the work he said he was going to do. The train has left the station and while the Shifty Schiff $hitty Sham Show is still playing to all of your emotions history will be made.

Hey, he's one of yours!
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