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WTF ........Trump supporters are radicalized and dangerous???
victor809 Offline
#101 Posted:
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jjanecka wrote:

Also, I remedied my angst by attending Traditional Latin Mass. Don't have to worry about sacriledge near as bad in those churches.


what do they eat at traditional latin mass?
jjanecka Offline
#102 Posted:
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I mean, the quote is 1700 years old, pretty sure that whichever hysteria St. Anthony the Great was referencing has already passed.
JadeRose Offline
#103 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
Listen only to sources that are trusted by the central scrutinizer.



Maybe you thought
I was the Packard Goose
Or the Ronald MacDonald of the nouveau-abstruse?
JadeRose Offline
#104 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
what do they eat at traditional latin mass?




Jesus
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#105 Posted:
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JadeRose wrote:
Jesus


Nonsense, he's already being served at the regular catholic mass.

JadeRose Offline
#106 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Nonsense, he's already being served at the regular catholic mass.





He's a big guy
delta1 Offline
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Unloader wrote:
Sodomy abortion and feminism not only destroys the soul but when socially accepted as righteous will destroy the social fabric of society

It's happening all around us


salaam, Unloader.....seems you would be much happier if you lived in Iran...
jjanecka Offline
#108 Posted:
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Technically according to Tradition there is only one Mass, which was the one that occurred 2k years ago at the Last Supper. All other services are connected to that single instance. Don't ask me about the enormouse amount of math that it would take to make that happen because I think that still remains a mystery.
victor809 Offline
#109 Posted:
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jjanecka wrote:
Technically according to Tradition there is only one Mass, which was the one that occurred 2k years ago at the Last Supper. All other services are connected to that single instance. Don't ask me about the enormouse amount of math that it would take to make that happen because I think that still remains a mystery.


Not to mention the meat's prolly turned by now....
JadeRose Offline
#110 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Not to mention the meat's prolly turned by now....



They have a Yeti
victor809 Offline
#111 Posted:
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JadeRose wrote:
They have a Yeti


Does Yeti meat make good cookies?
ZRX1200 Offline
#112 Posted:
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Sometimes in the morning while in the shower I regret not being catholic.
JadeRose Offline
#113 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Does Yeti meat make good cookies?




You'd have to ask Drafter. I heard his Momma is a Yeti
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#114 Posted:
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JadeRose wrote:
You'd have to ask Drafter. I heard his Momma is a Yeti


Drafter's Momma is eaten in traditional latin mass?
teedubbya Offline
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no wonder he’s obsessed with CROS.
JadeRose Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
no wonder he’s obsessed with CROS.




...and there's the payoff. Like free form jazz riffing.
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#117 Posted:
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jjanecka wrote:
Technically according to Tradition there is only one Mass, which was the one that occurred 2k years ago at the Last Supper. All other services are connected to that single instance. Don't ask me about the enormouse amount of math that it would take to make that happen because I think that still remains a mystery.

oh sure...blame it on a Seder.
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frankj1 wrote:
oh sure...blame it on a Seder.


the wife is allergic to cedars.

That mean she's the antichrist?
JadeRose Offline
#119 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
the wife is allergic to cedars.

That mean she's the antichrist?




Is she a moth?
victor809 Offline
#120 Posted:
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JadeRose wrote:
Is she a moth?


maybe? can't see past this chrysalis.....
jjanecka Offline
#121 Posted:
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Well yeah Frank that seder was so badass that it has not been forgotten bro.
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#122 Posted:
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it was our pleasure.
good luck with your new venture...HA!
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I keep telling people the Jews really know how to throw one Hell of a party!
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#124 Posted:
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Victor, to answer your question about the differences between the Traditional and Modern Mass. The Modern Mass is essentially a modified version of the Lutheran Worship service interpreted under the Catholic lens. The Second Vatican Council Approved the Mass in the 60's to aid in the unification of the Christian Churches. It pretty much became the de facto Mass usage across the Church. Many priests were ordered to stop saying the Traditional Mass.

The modern Mass makes use of the lay people in various forms: lectors, eucharistic ministers, and responses in places that were normally reserved for either the priest alone, the diaconate, or altar servers. Music can be traditional but generally barrows heavily from Contemporary Protestant hymns, 70's soft rock interpretations of Catholic hymns, Tribal Music, Gospel, et cetera. In the Modern Mass, the focus is on the congregants and more recently this strange idea of "fellowship."

The Traditional Mass is basically the Mass that was composed by St. Gregory the Great who was elected Pope in 590ad. Revisions have come and gone, the most significant was the revisions made in the 1500's during the council of Trent which provided the base for the Counter-Reformation, an attempt by the Church to win back congregants that had left with Martin Luther. The last revisions to the Traditional Mass were made in 1962 just prior to the implementation of the Modern Mass.

While both Masses are considered equal, the Modern Mass is phrased as the "Ordinary" form of the Mass and the Traditional Mass is considered "Extraordinary." This is due to the extreme care and reverence taken by priests and congregants participating in the Mass. The musical stylings are limited to Chant, Madrigal, and Organ or Orchestral arrangements. The language usage must come from the Authorized Languages: Latin, Greek, Hebrew, Aramaeic, Church Slavonic, and a handfull of others (language depends on region and Rite). The only usage today in America is Latin and books and pamphlets offer translations so congregants who do not understand Latin are able to follow along.

There are a ton of other revisions such as how the priest stands, how the altar servers assist and how the Eucharist is recieved. The Modern Mass streamlined everything to do as little as possible; though it should be noted that most individuals who have taken the time to learn the Traditional Mass find it to be more sincere and more astetically pleasing. The focus is directly on God and the human condition is viewed more as a selfish vice that reason must dictate, control, and master. While the modern Church often offers trust in feelings and emotions, the Traditional Church warns to be skeptical of how you feel because feelings can be easily manipulated and if left unguarded can prove detrimental to the state of one's individualism.
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#125 Posted:
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jjanecka wrote:
I keep telling people the Jews really know how to throw one Hell of a party!

the most important element that has been passed down through the generations...Open Bar!
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#126 Posted:
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jjanecka wrote:
Victor, to answer your question about the differences between the Traditional and Modern Mass. The Modern Mass is essentially a modified version of the Lutheran Worship service interpreted under the Catholic lens. The Second Vatican Council Approved the Mass in the 60's to aid in the unification of the Christian Churches. It pretty much became the de facto Mass usage across the Church. Many priests were ordered to stop saying the Traditional Mass.

The modern Mass makes use of the lay people in various forms: lectors, eucharistic ministers, and responses in places that were normally reserved for either the priest alone, the diaconate, or altar servers. Music can be traditional but generally barrows heavily from Contemporary Protestant hymns, 70's soft rock interpretations of Catholic hymns, Tribal Music, Gospel, et cetera. In the Modern Mass, the focus is on the congregants and more recently this strange idea of "fellowship."

The Traditional Mass is basically the Mass that was composed by St. Gregory the Great who was elected Pope in 590ad. Revisions have come and gone, the most significant was the revisions made in the 1500's during the council of Trent which provided the base for the Counter-Reformation, an attempt by the Church to win back congregants that had left with Martin Luther. The last revisions to the Traditional Mass were made in 1962 just prior to the implementation of the Modern Mass.

While both Masses are considered equal, the Modern Mass is phrased as the "Ordinary" form of the Mass and the Traditional Mass is considered "Extraordinary." This is due to the extreme care and reverence taken by priests and congregants participating in the Mass. The musical stylings are limited to Chant, Madrigal, and Organ or Orchestral arrangements. The language usage must come from the Authorized Languages: Latin, Greek, Hebrew, Aramaeic, Church Slavonic, and a handfull of others (language depends on region and Rite). The only usage today in America is Latin and books and pamphlets offer translations so congregants who do not understand Latin are able to follow along. Additionally, in the traditional mass Drafter's momma is served in cookie form in place of the holy sacrament.

There are a ton of other revisions such as how the priest stands, how the altar servers assist and how the Eucharist is recieved. The Modern Mass streamlined everything to do as little as possible; though it should be noted that most individuals who have taken the time to learn the Traditional Mass find it to be more sincere and more astetically pleasing. The focus is directly on God and the human condition is viewed more as a selfish vice that reason must dictate, control, and master. While the modern Church often offers trust in feelings and emotions, the Traditional Church warns to be skeptical of how you feel because feelings can be easily manipulated and if left unguarded can prove detrimental to the state of one's individualism.


... I knew it...
fishinguitarman Offline
#127 Posted:
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Figured that would be to deep to say something even a little bit intelligent
jjanecka Offline
#128 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
... I knew it...


I am suprised and actually quite impressed you took the time to at least skim through the post to find the appropriate part to drop that line in. Kudos to your level of dedication.
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#129 Posted:
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jjanecka wrote:
I am suprised and actually quite impressed you took the time to at least skim through the post to find the appropriate part to drop that line in. Kudos to your level of dedication.


Heh.... of course I'd read it.
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#130 Posted:
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you get your choice the traditional vanilla wafer flavor Momma cracker, or the modern choc macadamia nut Momma cracker...
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