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What do you concealed or open carry?
Speyside Offline
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I concealed carry a FN Fnx-45.
engletl Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 12-26-2000
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Most days concealed - a Kahr CW-9 and NAA Sidewinder

On occasion open - either Glock G-19 or FNX-45
Gene363 Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 01-24-2003
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Don't laugh, a keltic P-32 in a wallet shaped case form which I can fire the pistol without removing taking off the case.


I avoid dangerous situations as I always did before getting a carry permit. If things got serious I have a Steyr M9 concealed or an AR.
USNGunner Offline
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Concealed and it varies based on risk assessment.

Daily around here, a SA XDS .(3.3) 45ACP or a 1911A1
Going to Chicago or similar either one of my Hi-Powers or Beretta 92's.

Always at least one spare mag, a Microtech OTF, IFK w/tourniqet, pepper spray and a flashlight. That's my basic EDC.
USNGunner Offline
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Gene363 wrote:
I avoid dangerous situations as I always did before getting a carry permit. If things got serious I have a Steyr M9 concealed or an AR.


Ditto. I keep plate carriers in each vehicle. I can add an out of sight "pistol" or carbine as the current threat level warrants.
ZRX1200 Online
#6 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,613
Both......

Concealed I carry a Glock 43

Open H&K UPS .40

Always have my Benchmade knife on me.
Gene363 Offline
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As some have mentioned, I always have a Spyderco knife, lately a Paramilitary 2.
danmdevries Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 02-11-2014
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LCR lives in my coat pocket.

Walther PPS on my belt.

Beretta 92 in the truck replaced the USP40 I recently sold, no use for 40 anymore and the 92 is too big for me to carry.

Bought a Glock 48 to replace the PPS, and some 15rd magazines from shieldarms but don't have a holster yet.
MACS Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 02-26-2004
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I have the G19, but it's still too big to hide real well... so I got the G43.

However, my CCW expired in 2017 and I never carried anyway, so I just have some sabre red in the car.
teedubbya Offline
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Joined: 08-14-2003
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Cz 75 under the dunlop
fishinguitarman Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 07-29-2006
Posts: 69,152
.380-fits in your pocket if you want

Open? A 9 or the Judge .45LC/410 shells
USNGunner Offline
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fishinguitarman wrote:
.380-fits in your pocket if you want

Open? A 9 or the Judge .45LC/410 shells


I won't open carry. Nor would I recommend that for not uniformed .mil or .leo types. Those guys use snatch resistant level II or level III security holsters, and train in weapons retention.

Honestly, most folks I see doing that are completely lacking in situational awareness. I didn't say all!

But if I spot your gun, and I'm not running around looking for them, you're now under a wary eye until we can get clear. Because even if you're not a nut, if a nut sees your gun and grabs at it it's going to get ugly.

I don't want me or mine hit in the melee.

I get it, if it's allowed it's a right, and exercising rights are always good. The only caveat being if it's done responsibly. Too many folks don't get that last part unfortunately. d'oh!
teedubbya Offline
#13 Posted:
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Most folks don’t carry $400+ in their wallet. Carrying it on their belt makes for a nice target.
fishinguitarman Offline
#14 Posted:
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Oh yeah.. you just carry knives for your backstabbing mmwhere your sidekick Robin aka 8backstabtrack?
teedubbya Offline
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I’m more in to full frontal
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
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My wife and I just picked up our CHPs on Friday. I'm trying to decide between my Glock 27 (.40), H&K UPS compact (.357 Sig) or Tarus PT-145 (.45 ACP). I'm going to have to spend some time at the range with all 3 before I decide. Right now I'm leaning toward the USP. Around the house and property I usually open carry a Glock 31 (full size .357 Sig) or a Ruger .44 mag, especially when I'm outside smoking a cigar before sunrise or after sunset (bear country). My wife originally thought she wanted one of those small 5 shot .38 revolers, but after spending several hours at the range, she now has confidence in a semi-auto. We'll be looking at some compact 9 mms for her.

Before the virus madness, our main reason for getting our CHPs was to carry on long hikes. NC permits CC in Federal and State parks, but forbids open carry. We do a lot of the "back country" trails where you might run across one or two other folk on a 3 - 6 hour hike. We wouldn't want to be 3 hours from the trail head and run across a 2 or 4 legged predator unarmed.

David
Pudding Mittens Offline
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Mrs. dpnewell wrote:
My wife and I just picked up our CHPs on Friday. I'm trying to decide between my Glock 27 (.40), H&K UPS compact (.357 Sig) or Tarus PT-145 (.45 ACP). I'm going to have to spend some time at the range with all 3 before I decide. Right now I'm leaning toward the USP. Around the house and property I usually open carry a Glock 31 (full size .357 Sig) or a Ruger .44 mag, especially when I'm outside smoking a cigar before sunrise or after sunset (bear country). My wife originally thought she wanted one of those small 5 shot .38 revolers, but after spending several hours at the range, she now has confidence in a semi-auto. We'll be looking at some compact 9 mms for her.

Before the virus madness, our main reason for getting our CHPs was to carry on long hikes. NC permits CC in Federal and State parks, but forbids open carry. We do a lot of the "back country" trails where you might run across one or two other folk on a 3 - 6 hour hike. We wouldn't want to be 3 hours from the trail head and run across a 2 or 4 legged predator unarmed.

David

Go Glock 27. Among other options, you can buy a pocket holster (Galco makes a great one specifically made for the G27 and its identical-dimensions sibling models) and you now have a "universal carry" capability. ANY outfit with a pocket is all you need. Suit and tie? Check. Jeans and T-shirt? Check. Jean shorts and no shirt? Check. Nothing but swim trunks? Check.

That is, if you're a big enough guy. If you're a beanpole it might not work. Otherwise, G27 and pocket holster. In your other side's pocket, you can carry a nice 15-round or better yet, the 22-round Glock factory mag as a backup, if you want to. All Glock doublestack .40 mags fit and function in the G27 just fine.

IMO, impossible to beat combination of concealability, stopping power, high capacity, high controllability, accuracy, reliability, durability and, best of all, compatibility with ALL outfits WHILE retaining, for ALL of them, just a single universal carry method, which improves effectiveness of training, "muscle memory" learning, etc.
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Sunoverbeach Offline
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CZ PO1 concealed. Though was originally planning on carrying a little further down the road. Nonsense during the initial hoarding phase of all this prompted me to move up my timetable
ZRX1200 Online
#19 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
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Gunner, you’re assuming I wear an external holster without a retention strap...... we’re an open carry state and have seen VERY few issues. Actually only one I can think of and that was in a Walmart bathroom.
Sunoverbeach Offline
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Well I think you're supposed to ask 'em if they're interested, not hold 'em at gunpoint
MACS Offline
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
Well I think you're supposed to ask 'em if they're interested, not hold 'em at gunpoint


Z just taps his foot.
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I also have the H&K.40 Great gun. Alien 👽holster very comphy for a larger gun but ...New Jersey so I can only carry legally around the property. Weekdays the Pasload nailgun is usually on hand most of the time. A little cumbersome but holds lots of 3" ringshank nails. The Hilti gun is also on hand for more power & distance but only one shot at a time. Used to carry throwing hatchet on leg when I used to collect rents in Camden. Gave that gig up because I knew I'd end up using it.
Whistlebritches Offline
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Concealed......Glock 26 in an Ultracarry I/OWB rig or a S&W 642 in my right rear pocket.
Krazeehorse Offline
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Kimber stainless Ultra Carry II.
HockeyDad Offline
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I used to be able to carry a Ruger LCR but then I moved to California so now I carry a serrated butter knife.
Whistlebritches Offline
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Krazeehorse wrote:
Kimber stainless Ultra Carry II.



I been eyeballing one of those........SCHWEEEEEET!!!
Whistlebritches Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
I used to be able to carry a Ruger LCR but then I moved to California so now I carry a serrated butter knife.



Just make damn sure it's registered Tom.
MACS Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
I used to be able to carry a Ruger LCR but then I moved to California so now I carry a serrated butter knife.


Oh you can still carry concealed... you just either have to go rogue and break the unconstitutional laws, or come up with a very good reason, you know... besides the 2nd amendment, to convince the government overlords that you need to carry it.
Pudding Mittens Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
I used to be able to carry a Ruger LCR but then I moved to California so now I carry a serrated butter knife.

Yup, while the criminals there carry whatever the hell they want, just like they do everywhere, past present and future.

"Dear violent criminals who are very willing to ignore capital murder laws and slaughter multiple innocent people --- Kindly do us a favor and obey these gun ban laws we have passed, otherwise we will have to have you appear in court. Oh, by the way, all your potential victims, being good law-abiding people, are now guaranteed to be defenseless and completely unable to resist you. Please behave, though, okay? Thank you for your cooperation. Sincerely, profoundly moronic leftists."

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Mrs. dpnewell Offline
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Pudding Mittens wrote:
Go Glock 27. Among other options, you can buy a pocket holster (Galco makes a great one specifically made for the G27 and its identical-dimensions sibling models) and you now have a "universal carry" capability. ANY outfit with a pocket is all you need. Suit and tie? Check. Jeans and T-shirt? Check. Jean shorts and no shirt? Check. Nothing but swim trunks? Check.

That is, if you're a big enough guy. If you're a beanpole it might not work. Otherwise, G27 and pocket holster. In your other side's pocket, you can carry a nice 15-round or better yet, the 22-round Glock factory mag as a backup, if you want to. All Glock doublestack .40 mags fit and function in the G27 just fine.

IMO, impossible to beat combination of concealability, stopping power, high capacity, high controllability, accuracy, reliability, durability and, best of all, compatibility with ALL outfits WHILE retaining, for ALL of them, just a single universal carry method, which improves effectiveness of training, "muscle memory" learning, etc.
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I appreciate the advice. It's just that I really love .357 Sig, have 4 handguns chambered in it, and shoot it better then .40. Maybe I should look into a .357 Sig barrel for the G27. The magazines will work for either round. I'll have to look into the pocket holster. Thanks again.

David
KingoftheCove Offline
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I don’t carry nuttin.
nope.....nada...................but if I was........prolly be a wheel gun with a short barrel........double and single action.......and 6 shots.........
And it would be like 45 years old....

That’s IF I was gonna CC......
Pudding Mittens Offline
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Mrs. dpnewell wrote:
I appreciate the advice. It's just that I really love .357 Sig, have 4 handguns chambered in it, and shoot it better then .40. Maybe I should look into a .357 Sig barrel for the G27. The magazines will work for either round. I'll have to look into the pocket holster. Thanks again.

David

Just get a Glock 33. It's literally the 27 but in .357 SIG. Same gun and same mags, if I remember right the only differences are a different barrel, "33 357 SIG" instead of "27 .40" engraved on the slide, and "357 SIG" instead of "40" molded into the mags.

Or as you said, get a 27 and just also buy a .357 SIG barrel for it. No other mods are needed, as far as I know.
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Mrs. dpnewell Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
I used to be able to carry a Ruger LCR but then I moved to California so now I carry a serrated butter knife.


A concealed serrated butter knife would get you 5 years in NJ (the state I recently moved from). Governor Murphy originally shut down NJ gun shops as non-essential businesses, in his Coronavirus mandate. When questioned about it, he stated that he believed that no one should be permitted to purchase or even own a gun in NJ. Under pressure he revised the order to allow one to visit a gun shop by appointment only, but only 2 people can be in the shop at one time. There are law suits pending. I'm so glad to be out of that chit hole state.

David
Pudding Mittens Offline
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Mrs. dpnewell wrote:
I'll have to look into the pocket holster.

I forgot the other beautiful thing about the carry mode I describe -- in a dicey, sketchy situation where schitt might go bad but you aren't legally justified in drawing your gun yet, you can have a full firing grip on the G27/G33, and therefore be one pulling motion and about 0.5 second away from having it drawn and aimed at a threat, and yet you just look like a dude with his hand in his pocket.

Tell me that isn't awesome!
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Mrs. dpnewell Offline
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Pudding Mittens wrote:
Just get a Glock 33. It's literally the 27 but in .357 SIG. Same gun and same mags, if I remember right the only differences are a different barrel, "33 357 SIG" instead of "27 .40" engraved on the slide, and "357 SIG" instead of "40" molded into the mags.

Or as you said, get a 27 and just also buy a .357 SIG barrel for it. No other mods are needed, as far as I know.
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Since I already own the G27, the barrel conversion would be the way to go. I was a Glock hater for years, but inherited the G27 and G31 from my brother when he passed. The G31 is now my nightstand gun, and the one I usually wear around the house and property. Right now I'm enjoying a cigar under the RV awning in the dark, and the G31 is on my hip.
Pudding Mittens Offline
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Mrs. dpnewell wrote:
Since I already own the G27, the barrel conversion would be the way to go. I was a Glock hater for years, but inherited the G27 and G31 from my brother when he passed. The G31 is now my nightstand gun, and the one I usually wear around the house and property. Right now I'm enjoying a cigar under the RV awning in the dark, and the G31 is on my hip.

I've been into guns for 25 years now, lots of experience and training and years of deep research, and for defending your life I can recommend no type of handgun more than a Glock.

They're so good for self-defense that the only things I recommend are tritium night sights (can buy the gun with them factory-installed) and replacing the stock 5-pound coil extension spring with either an 8-pound "New York" or 12-pound "New York 2" trigger spring assembly.

Trigger weights are a matter of taste, but I prefer a heavy one on a self-defense gun for a number of reasons I won't get into here (maybe in another post).

However the biggest reason for replacing the stock spring with a "New York" assembly is reliability enhancement. Extension springs like the stock one can fail suddenly and completely (Murphy says at the worst possible moment), while compression springs basically never suddenly fail and instead slowly get softer with less resistance over time (which you can notice, and replace them). The New York trigger spring assemblies use a redundant pair of two kinds of compression spring, a metal coil spring inside a plastic leaf spring. No extension springs.

No sudden failures are possible, due to compression not extension, and due to the redundancy. If the metal coil one were to fail suddenly which is incredibly unlikely, the plastic leaf compression spring it's within continues to function sufficiently. In fact, unlike today's NY1 (olive green plastic) and NY2 (orange plastic) trigger assemblies, the early ones (black plastic) didn't even HAVE the metal compression spring inside the plastic leaf spring, it was just the plastic leaf spring, so it's fully-functional by itself.

The "New York" assemblies are cheap (a few bucks!), and can be installed by a gunsmith, or yourself quite easily with a bit of YouTube-watching or Googling. It isn't difficult at all, just takes a minute.

No other mods of any kind are needed on a Glock for self-defense purposes.
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teedubbya Offline
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Glocks are great I just don’t like their feel and can’t shoot them well. CZs feel like an extension of my hand and I don’t really have to aim them.

But I get the attraction towards the Tupperware guns. They just keep going.
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
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KingoftheCove wrote:
I don’t carry nuttin.
nope.....nada...................but if I was........prolly be a wheel gun with a short barrel........double and single action.......and 6 shots.........
And it would be like 45 years old....

That’s IF I was gonna CC......


Our CHP instructor talked us out of a 5 or 6 shot wheel gun. He was drilling home the fact that you have be aware of what is beyond your target before pulling the trigger. He said that with the adrenalin rush, statistically you can count on one hit per 5 or 6 rounds fired. He stated that FBI statistics show that law enforcement only hit their target 14% of the time. I remember a incident that happened in Philly several years back. Four law enforcement officers opened fire on an armed suspect at about 15 to 20 feet. Out of close to 60 rounds fired, they hit the suspect 5 times. That's less then one in ten.

David
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Mrs. dpnewell wrote:
Our CHP instructor talked us out of a 5 or 6 shot wheel gun.

They're also much more fragile than something like a Glock.

You can drop a revolver from a few feet up onto a hard surface and, if it lands the wrong way, it can bind up the cylinder and require a gunsmith to fix. There's really no way to drop a Glock that disables it. Heck, they've dropped them off buildings and out of helicopters onto concrete in tests, and the gun continued to work fine.

Revolvers also have a high bore axis making them harder to aim and control during recoil, so longer times between shots, usually have sights far inferior to semi-autos for defensive use, and many other issues. Plus, you know, the schitt low capacity and long reload times compared to magazines.

Revolvers are very overrated.
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Pudding Mittens Offline
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Article about Glock "New York" 1 and 2 trigger spring assemblies, with photos:

https://gundigest.com/gun-reviews/range-report-glock-new-york-trigger

Curiously, they don't mention the reliability advantages of compression over extension springs, or the enormous advantage of the two-spring redundancy. But they do talk about the reasons for a heavier trigger in a defensive gun.
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Mrs. dpnewell Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
Glocks are great I just don’t like their feel and can’t shoot them well. CZs feel like an extension of my hand and I don’t really have to aim them.

But I get the attraction towards the Tupperware guns. They just keep going.


I love my CZ. 20 years ago I picked up a CZ 75 from CDNN for cheap. It was an overrun from a Turkish military contract. It's a nail driver. That's the gun I qualified with. Slow fire, rapid fire, fire from a draw, 2 rounds in 2 seconds, 3 rounds in 3 seconds, etc. Hit 25 of 25. I also have an EEA Witness in 10mm, which is a CZ clone. Opps, forgot about my IMI Baby Eagle, another nail driving CZ clone.

David
Brewha Offline
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I don’t carry.

The wife on the other hand with her CHL, has a S&W .38 by the bed, a Sig P238 for her carry, and a Ruger SR9 incase things get ugly. She qualified with her aluminum frame snub nosed, double action .38.

For the range, I have a Beretta PX4 and a Dan Wesson PM9.
Pudding Mittens Offline
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Brewha wrote:
For the range, I have a Beretta PX4 and a Dan Wesson PM9.

Ever shoot a Dan Wesson .445 SuperMag with hot loads?

Wow. Man does it put a big grin on your face! BA-BOOOOOOOM!

(The .445 SuperMag was born when its inventor looked at full-power .44 Magnum and thought gee, what a weak round, let's extend its case another half-inch and fill it with more powder).
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Brewha Offline
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Pudding Mittens wrote:
Ever shoot a Dan Wesson .445 SuperMag with hot loads?

Wow. Man does it put a big grin on your face! BA-BOOOOOOOM!

(The .445 SuperMag was born when its inventor looked at full-power .44 Magnum and thought gee, what a weak round, let's extend its case another half-inch and fill it with more powder).
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No - sounds fun. I shot some friends .44 mag revolver, but that’s it.
Always wanted to try a .50 cal Desert Eagle.
Brewha Offline
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the PM9 is a great target pistol. Good weight, great trigger, way more accurate than me. It beat the 92 in a side by side for me.
Pudding Mittens Offline
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Brewha wrote:
the PM9 is a great target pistol. Good weight, great trigger, way more accurate than me. It beat the 92 in a side by side for me.

Dan Wesson makes great stuff. Never saw or handled one that wasn't awesomely well-made.
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teedubbya Offline
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Wesson/cz is a great company. Kansas City Kansas stamped right on them proving MAGA right.
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CC: ZF-1.
OC: no need, plus, california. Big no-no.
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It depends. I’ve got a varied selection. One of the benefits of living in the Deep South.
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I gotta giant python. I just pull it out and slap em with it.

They run SCREAMING 😱
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