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xibbumbero Offline
#1 Posted:
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Do you? It appears trump don't pay chit. He creates HUGE(in trumps voice) losses so's he don't have to pay his share. X Frying pan
Whistlebritches Online
#2 Posted:
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xibbumbero wrote:
Do you? It appears trump don't pay chit. He creates HUGE(in trumps voice) losses so's he don't have to pay his share. X Frying pan



When I had my own business I paid taxes but damn few in most years if you only count corporate taxes.Employee taxes were ridiculous..........so lets keep those in mind.
ZRX1200 Offline
#3 Posted:
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It’s not his fault he’s smarter than us X.
xibbumbero Offline
#4 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
It’s not his fault he’s smarter than us X.


Nah...he's just more crooked than us. X Frying pan
DrafterX Offline
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Sounds like you're looking for more free stuff... Mellow
Plowboy221 Offline
#6 Posted:
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Yes about over half my wages goes to taxes 😡, I claim zero and still had to pay into the state last year
opelmanta1900 Offline
#7 Posted:
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*according to the new york times...
ZRX1200 Offline
#8 Posted:
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I love how smart people want to play dumb with INCOME taxes, rich people don’t have “jobs” the pay capital gains taxes....


X this is the same 💩 as the “Oracle from Omaha” pretending his secretary paid more TAXES when only mentioned INCOME taxes.

I really hoped you wouldn’t be duped by NYT and TDS.
Krazeehorse Offline
#9 Posted:
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No more than I have to.
tonygraz Offline
#10 Posted:
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REpublicans have a thing about paying taxes. I know one who pays no Federal Income tax, but insists he pays taxes like sales tax (tho he tries to lie his way out of that too) and property taxes.
Republicans think laws don't apply to them.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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tonygraz wrote:
REpublicans have a thing about paying taxes. I know one who pays no Federal Income tax, but insists he pays taxes like sales tax (tho he tries to lie his way out of that too) and property taxes.
Republicans think laws don't apply to them.




Riiight.
Buckwheat Offline
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xibbumbero wrote:
Do you? It appears trump don't pay chit. He creates HUGE(in trumps voice) losses so's he don't have to pay his share. X Frying pan


Unfortunately, a lot of corporations & individuals do this. Nothing new or illegal; it's just scummy. horse

Neither party is ever going to substantially going to change our current tax system. Both parties are addited to spending our money. fog
rfenst Offline
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Buckwheat wrote:
Unfortunately, a lot of corporations & individuals do this. Nothing new or illegal; it's just scummy. horse

Neither party is ever going to substantially going to change our current tax system. Both parties are addited to spending our money. fog

Nothing "scummy" about lawfully reducing taxes to or near zero.
Buckwheat Offline
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rfenst wrote:
Nothing "scummy" about lawfully reducing taxes to or near zero.


It is just my opinion. I don't like our current tax system as you can see by the second part of my post.
Smooth light Offline
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Your on this site to pay the least amount for cijars, same with paying the Uncle Sam. 🎯
opelmanta1900 Offline
#16 Posted:
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Hey look, smooth light posted and now Joe, I mean Ray, is lurking...
Smooth light Offline
#17 Posted:
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It's not who, it's what!

Snipe's are everywhere get used to it.
RayR Offline
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Hey look, smooth light posted and now Joe, I mean Ray, is lurking...


Yes I am. I like to see what the proles are up too. I was on last night to pay the least amount for quality cigars which is what sensible consumers do in a market economy, even under the circumstances of greedy slimy government taxation that seeks to punish them for their sinful hobby.

Joe Biden says paying yer taxes is patriotic. I'm sure grovelling devoted subjects of the empire here agree. I'm sure as proud patriots they pay even more than they can get away with legally as they wave their flags and blindly consent to all the gubment does in their name. They are jealous though of anybody that finds a break in the voluminous tax codes of the Marxist progressive income tax system that they don't have. I don't understand why it is "scummy" or "unfortunate" that they do so.

How would Joe Biden know that paying yer taxes is patriotic when he's been a net tax consumer as a lifer politician? I wonder if the Biden's are hiding other income on their crime family operations? hmmm...
How could anyone seriously believe income taxation is patriotic when it is extracted under the threat of violence?
“If taxation without consent is not robbery, then any band of robbers have only to declare themselves a government, and all their robberies are legalized.” — Lysander Spooner

bgz Offline
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You have an unhealthy enfatuation with this stuff... you might want to find a hobby.
RayR Offline
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bgz wrote:
You have an unhealthy enfatuation with this stuff... you might want to find a hobby.


Did I say something to insult your man Joe Biden. Did I challenge conventional progressive thought again?
I hope so.

Or was it I quoted some old irrelevant dead guy?
Gene363 Offline
#21 Posted:
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What a bunch of disingenuous BS, avoiding taxes is the American way. The tax laws that allow deductions enough to pay no income taxes or get money back when you paid nothing in, were all passed by the *parliament of whores, Congress and implemented by IRS bureaucrats.



* Including Biden.
bgz Offline
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RayR wrote:
Did I say something to insult your man Joe Biden. Did I challenge conventional progressive thought again?
I hope so.

Or was it I quoted some old irrelevant dead guy?


You just seem like you let it drive you to the point where you can't look at anything without hate.

I mean, it seems like something that should make me feel bad for you.
tonygraz Offline
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bgz- I find it's better not to pay any attention to those two, who are either russian bots or trolls. There is some speculation that they may both be the same person and perhaps even someone who has posted here a while and wants to stir things up.
Brewha Offline
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
*according to the new york times...


Stand up for the GOP Opel, and give us the "alternate facts".
opelmanta1900 Offline
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Brewha wrote:
Stand up for the GOP Opel, and give us the "alternate facts".

If i stood up for the right I'd be just as retarded as you are for standing up for the left...
Speyside Offline
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Meh, tax evasion is a federal felony I think. If the evidence is there, time for court. If not, then no. The president also is innocent untill proven guilty. The president is not above the law during his time in office as some suggest.
Brewha Offline
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
If i stood up for the right I'd be just as retarded as you are for standing up for the left...

You're not trying to hurt my feelings are you?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#28 Posted:
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Think

Why is the IRS not fining him if this story was correct?


Yeah...more fake news.


Eat it up TDS'ers
Stogie1020 Offline
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Any one of you who take a mortgage interest deduction or child care deduction are doing the exact same thing as Trump did, just on a different scale. Using the features of the system to pay the least amount of taxes that you legally have to.

To anyone complaining about what he did, did you send an extra $1000 beyond what you owed to the IRS this year? Why not? You are allowed to pay more than you have to.
RayR Offline
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tonygraz wrote:
bgz- I find it's better not to pay any attention to those two, who are either russian bots or trolls. There is some speculation that they may both be the same person and perhaps even someone who has posted here a while and wants to stir things up.


Ah, the return of the Russian bot conspiracy theorist.
Get it right Tony, I'm a good troll, not a bot of any sort.
Brewha Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Think

Why is the IRS not fining him if this story was correct?


Yeah...more fake news.


Eat it up TDS'ers

It is about his lack of character and lack of business success.

don't be a dim bulb....
Stogie1020 Offline
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Brewha wrote:
It is about his lack of character and lack of business success.

don't be a dim bulb....

Because a few of his business showed losses and he wrote them off?

Me thinks you are the dim bulb.

A bunch of people who likely don't understand business or tax law in here saying he is a crony for using provisions of the law (that ironically Obama signed) allowing him to write off losses.
Brewha Offline
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Stogie1020 wrote:
Because a few of his business showed losses and he wrote them off?

Me thinks you are the dim bulb.

Trumps businesses are catastrophes. Huge losers. Biggly.

That's the trick - He just keeps selling himself as the best of the best, the smartest, and the only one who can really be successful with other peoples money.

And the fools line up to believe him.
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Smooth light wrote:
Your on this site to pay the least amount for cijars, same with paying the Uncle Sam. 🎯


I only come here for the witty banter and intelligent discourse. I've also met some nice people here. Herfing
opelmanta1900 Offline
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Brewha wrote:
You're not trying to hurt my feelings are you?

No... just pointing out what you already know; standing up for any of them based on anything they've done is an action without merit...
rfenst Offline
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Speyside wrote:
Meh, tax evasion is a federal felony I think. If the evidence is there, time for court. If not, then no. The president also is innocent until proven guilty. The president is not above the law during his time in office as some suggest.

What? No absolute immunity?
MACS Offline
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If what he does is within the tax code... should we not wish to change the tax code, instead of getting mad at someone for following it?

Rhetorical question... those with TDS can't think logically.
Brewha Offline
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MACS wrote:
... those with TDS can't think logically.




While I agree, we disagree on what Trump Derangement Syndrome is and who has it....
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Brewha wrote:
While I agree, we disagree on what Trump Derangement Syndrome is and who has it....


That would be between your ears.

You're posting like this is real news that the NYT has his tax returns.

They don't.

This was all done in 2016 but I suppose you forgot.
Brewha Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
That would be between your ears.

You're posting like this is real news that the NYT has his tax returns.

They don't.

This was all done in 2016 but I suppose you forgot.

No, I did not post it, I commented.
Because Trump is a crook who has lots of foolish followers.

DrafterX Offline
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OhMyGod
DrMaddVibe Offline
#42 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
No, I did not post it, I commented.
Because Trump is a crook who has lots of foolish followers.




A crook?

Better call the cops or better yet call Shifty Schiff!!!

Frying pan
frankj1 Offline
#43 Posted:
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taxes were either done within legal limits or not, I don't think tax cheating is really the problem by itself for the Trumps, we'll see eventually but not soon.

What I have been wondering about for a few years now is if there's any fire around the smoke regarding undervaluing properties for taxes and then overvaluing them for loans...hello DeutscheBank?
No other bank that I am aware of in the free world would loan one shekel to him anymore, and that goes back several years.

It's one thing to admire what one thinks are clever business practices to avoid paying taxes, but it's another to also admire intentional bankruptcies as ways to avoid paying banks AND other businesses that also provide Americans with jobs for their families. Many have gone out of business because they could not afford the years of chasing in court. Beating same-industry competition is one thing, destroying vendors and (sub) contractors by not honoring one's word/contractual obligation is quite another.

Legal? Perhaps.
But to admire someone for that?
Not me.
HockeyDad Offline
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I would not advise admiring politicians or businessmen.

Oh and....shekels...seriously. Banks don’t loan shekels.
MACS Offline
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh_Nk7KZJ4Q
rfenst Offline
#46 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
I would not advise admiring politicians or businessmen.

Oh and....shekels...seriously. Banks don’t loan shekels.

You must be using the wrong bank.
Stogie1020 Offline
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Brewha wrote:
Trumps businesses are catastrophes. Huge losers. Biggly.

That's the trick - He just keeps selling himself as the best of the best, the smartest, and the only one who can really be successful with other peoples money.

And the fools line up to believe him.


Tell me, exactly, how you saw the P&Ls for each of his companies going back ten years?

Because if you didn't see them, you really don't have a basis to make that statement. That just makes you a card carrying member of the "Orange man bad" club.
Smooth light Offline
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The american way, you got to pay, I'll find a way to get it for free, plus pay me to do it 🤭.

Give me a hamburger 🍔 today and I'll pay you Tuesday.

Who's the best crook?🤑
frankj1 Offline
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Smooth light wrote:
The american way, you got to pay, I'll find a way to get it for free, plus pay me to do it 🤭.

Give me a hamburger 🍔 today and I'll pay you Tuesday.

Who's the best crook?🤑

and yet just a week or so ago you commented your surprise to learn that you and I shared a sense of morality in business dealings.

I think you may have fallen off the wagon.
tonygraz Offline
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And landed hard on his head.
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