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He like hillary will die or resign before 4 years are up because they are so sick and stuff. it is actually the plan. the dems like running people at the top that folks hate (like hillary who was very VERY sick) and then getting in office having them croak out or die then the VP who is even more terrible can take their place..... bahahahahah a master plan. it makes so much sense.

Thats not to say old the old man might not go but for Christ sakes the stoopid is fun to watch. I also heard trump won in a landslide and stuff and obama was bornin Kenya. Who writes this stuff. Reminds me of the old Billy Crystal sitcom Soap. Not in any way believable but still fun.

Ok back to the circular conversation about the most important thing ever to this country.... the xl pipeline and Drafter.

Next lets talk about that ANWAR Sadat guy.

You need your meds adjusted.

I do not take meds but I will accept that as an excuse for you not knowing what you are talking about. It’s OK, we’ve saved the tribe lands. Group hug!

the fossil fuel industry has some that make in onto a few top 100 good corporate citizens lists...

but it is also the industry that has made climate change an existential threat...


kinda like the NCAA putting LeBron into their HOF

The fossil fuel industry also created the modern industrial era.

Kinda like the NBA putting LeBron into their HOF because LeBron invented the NBA.

If your country is over the emissions limit, you got to pay extra to stay in the club. Not us that do.

Arm, twisting can be subtle or just twist it off and beat them with it.
No exemptions!

I haven"t seen much in the way of environmental care by business, but I have seen hiding of pollution and efforts to stop anyone from mentioning it.

some car manufacturers told Trump they did not back his attempts to erase CA's standards and future demands.

It might behoove both sides to stop assuming innate evil in others until such scorn is earned.
They become known eventually. But not all automatically plan to be devious.

I have a problem with the whole Global warming is all our fault. Is there global warming? Most definitely. Is it all our fault? I don't think so. Of course since the industrial revolution we've put more carbon into the atmosphere but, carbon isn't the only factor. The planets natural cycles have been heating and cooling the planet for millions of years.

Carbon offsets do nothing really. Solar? Good luck supplying the nations need for energy with solar. Our solar panels are so inefficient that it's just laughable. Wind? Expensive and kills so many birds it's not even funny while still not producing anywhere near our needs. I laugh every time I see Elon Musk post pictures of his spaceships out near Saturn with solar panels deployed. So little of the sun's energy gets out that far that our current solar panel tech can't use it. He'd need solar panels the size of the US. Electric cars? Their manufacturing process causes more pollution than they save and you still need to charge them with electricity. What will produce that electricity?

Fossil fuels are here to stay. The US has the largest untapped reserves of crude oil in the world. I think Nuclear is the way forward. The designs have changed so much since the first plants that if you looked into it you'd be wondering why we aren't using them. The US has stockpiles of rare earth metals just sitting there doing nothing. We've invested so little into processing and reprocessing spent rods that the costs are prohibitive. All that nuclear waste we've been burying can be recycled. We just don't do it because of what happened in the 60's and 70's. All research stopped. Imagine where we'd be if we had been investing in these techs for the last 50+ years. Fearmongering and bad PR ended that. We have the NRC to thank for that. Getting a license for a new reactor is impossible.

There are also HUGE amounts of frozen methane and carbonic acid laying all over our oceans floors. That's the real danger of global warming. If all that methane and carbonates start to melt there is NOTHING we would be able to do to stop a runaway chain reaction that would turn us into Venus and all life would cease to exist. We need technologies that allow us access to these resources. More efficient processing of crude and engines are being developed all the time for fossil fuels. Hydro is good but we can't built enough Hydro plants to make up the difference.

For those that don't know, Venus is the 2nd planet from the sun. But, it's hotter than Mercury because of the greenhouse gases it's covered in. Mostly Carbon Dioxide, Nitrogen and Sulfuric Acid. The ocean is the largest carbon sink with plants coming in at number two. Most people think it's the rain forests that capture the most but, it's really the tree line just below the arctic circle that captures the most. There are so many variables that we just plain ignore. Everyone is stuck on solar and wind as being our saviors that we ignore other techs that are WAY more effective.

BTW this is just the short basic version of this conversation we should be really having but, we aren't.

Agree. Nuclear has got to be a large part of the solution and we need to start reprocessing spent or more accurately, used fuel. There is still a lot of energy in spent fuel that should be recovered and used. We could realize a lot of savings just increasing efficiency and reducing losses.

Tragically, just like with the COVID situation, the entire discussion has been politicized. If that wasn't bad enough the control freaks have used scare tactics similar to the misleading anti drug claims of the sixties.

You say that so often that it makes me doubt that you do...

The new dictator is being sued! Don't the ingrates know he just wants to Build Better Back\?

Biden Gets Sued Over Recent Executive Order

https://www.westernjournal.com/biden-gets-sued-recent-executive-order/?ff_source=push&ff_medium=westernjournalism&ff_campaign=pushtraffic&ff_content=2021-01-21

I did nips and button for like 3 months before tw said i was allowed to wear a shirt on the herf again... I thought it was weird but he is the doctor...

It' not a requirement yet but it is strongly suggested.

Don't ask where that stethoscope has been...

Biden hates the planet.
Pipelines are the safest, most efficient, cleanest, green way of transporting oil.
We knew he hated working men, America and babies in the womb but the planet?!
C'mon man!

He'll be anything for a price.

Reminds me of the old Gomer Pyle/Miss Bunny joke. Surprise surprise surprise!!

I'll continue to ask them.

they suck....

they had some epic battles with the Grabatwats, tho...

won the last one, ending their wars

after the US re-joined the Paris Agreement, John Kerry, Biden's Climate Change Czar, is calling out China for slow-footing its plan, giving itself much more time to meet requirements for eliminating greenhouse gas...


greenhouse gases are what distinguishes the current period of global warming from those in the Earth's history...scientific studies and data show that during the past 650,000 years of many warming and cooling periods, the level of naturally occurring atmospheric carbon dioxide has never exceeded 300 ppm...

in 1950, we exceeded that level... and in 70 years since, we are now at 415 ppm... primarily attributable to human activities


this is real...

I know this hurts now, but it's for your own good...we have not clue what to do, really.

How about making better jobs, so we will desire them over what we have now.

Easier to catch flies with sugar than vinegar.

They've tried that already, remember Obama/Biden and Solyndra? It's always the same story, funnel stolen loot to their supporters who will then fill their campaign war chests in return. That's what progressives call "incentivizing".
You expect success like what would happen under a free market to come out of a system like that?