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RobertHively Offline
#201 Posted: Fri, Jan 29 2021, 6:32 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
but is he a cannibal pedophile?



I couldn't say one way or the other if Biden is or isn't a pedo, same with other politicians. It doesn't surprise me when one of them gets caught though. There are some real freaks in government.

Let me pose a question to you, how do you know he isn't a pedo? Same question for anyone who wants to talk about Trump. Joe is up there massaging and sniffing women and children during press conferences and I've seen the Epstein and Trump pictures. Maybe Joe just had a cold and was making sure he could still smell, maybe Trump just picked the wrong guy to take a picture with. We don't know. It certainly doesn't mean that they are pedos, but it's bad optics at best. At worst...

50 years ago anybody who accused the Catholic Church of being filled with pedo priests and bishops would have been considered the Qberts of their time. Now it's all over the mainstream news, scandal after scandal. Another example, Dennis Hastert, U.S. Speaker of the House during the George W Bush admin, went to prison for molesting children. I HIGHLY doubt that Dennis Hastert was/is the only pedo politician in U.S. history. Don't you?

On Hastert:

On June 2, 2015, current Federal Housing Finance Agency director and former U.S. Representative Mel Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, released a statement saying:
"...It would not be the first nor last time that I, as a Member of Congress, would hear rumors or innuendoes about colleagues. I had no direct knowledge of any abuse by former Speaker Hastert and, therefore, took no action...[163] " (Wikipedia)

So, it's not unheard of for powerful people and entities, who are respected and trusted in the community, to abuse their power in that way. Is is systemic? Who really knows.

-Qbert
frankj1 Offline
#202 Posted: Fri, Jan 29 2021, 7:32 PM EST
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I left out some of the claim being backed by some of our posters...


Democrats are Satan worshipping Communist pedophile cannibals.
Trump was "sent" to battle them and save us (I assume by God).

If I have this worded incorrectly, perhaps one of the subscribers can post the exact wording in the doctrine.


Robert, I'm a long way from talking about creepy behavior. I'm talking mental illness with seats at the big table in D.C.
rfenst Offline
#203 Posted: Fri, Jan 29 2021, 8:04 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
I left out some of the claim being backed by some of our posters...

Democrats are Satan worshipping Communist pedophile cannibals.
Trump was "sent" to battle them and save us (I assume by God).

If I have this worded incorrectly, perhaps one of the subscribers can post the exact wording in the doctrine.

Robert, I'm a long way from talking about creepy behavior. I'm talking mental illness with seats at the big table in D.C.

I am 100% with you on the degree of mental illness in D.C.
You would think that some of them could espouse that Trump is the Messiah.
teedubbya Offline
#204 Posted: Fri, Jan 29 2021, 8:07 PM EST
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Some of that illness is in here
Smooth light Offline
#205 Posted: Fri, Jan 29 2021, 8:16 PM EST
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Just 'mutant parrots'🦜 chripin 🦜
teedubbya Offline
#206 Posted: Fri, Jan 29 2021, 8:17 PM EST
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I thought XL pipeline was going to be the name of Frank’s next movie
izonfire Offline
#207 Posted: Fri, Jan 29 2021, 8:31 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Some of that illness is in here

I’m picturing you pointing to your colon...
delta1 Offline
#208 Posted: Fri, Jan 29 2021, 9:21 PM EST
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Stogie1020 wrote:
I specifically referred to bringing actual new tech to market, not "start a slush fund company you will tank in 3 years".

Have some amazing new green tech? Gov't could offer tax incentives to the company on the sales of the tech for a period of time.


exactly what we're doing with plug-in electric cars...making Musk rich



here's an article that describes the impact on agriculture...maybe we should be subsidizing growing rice in farmlands that are now prone to flooding...


https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/climate-change-and-agriculture
frankj1 Offline
#209 Posted: Fri, Jan 29 2021, 9:50 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I thought XL pipeline was going to be the name of Frank’s next movie

you made my building anguish dissipate...HA!
delta1 Offline
#210 Posted: Fri, Jan 29 2021, 10:20 PM EST
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it'll never be as good as "The Banzai Pipeline"...sorry...
delta1 Offline
#211 Posted: Fri, Jan 29 2021, 10:31 PM EST
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just remembered Gilda Radner's rant about "pippaleenie" oh..."pipeline...never mind..."
RayR Offline
#212 Posted: Sat, Jan 30 2021, 10:01 AM EST
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Hunter Biden is a Satan worshipping Communist pedophile according to his laptop. The apple didn't fall to far from the tree I'd say.
bgz Offline
#213 Posted: Sat, Jan 30 2021, 5:14 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
Hunter Biden is a Satan worshipping Communist pedophile according to his laptop. The apple didn't fall to far from the tree I'd say.


So how exactly do you go about worshipping satan?

For someone like me... who thinks no such being exists, it's kind of hard to wrap my head around someone worshipping it.

Edit:

And further, you're claiming he's a pedophile... is he a lizard people too?

Wait, don't answer that.
frankj1 Offline
#214 Posted: Sat, Jan 30 2021, 5:18 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
Hunter Biden is a Satan worshipping Communist pedophile according to his laptop. The apple didn't fall to far from the tree I'd say.

are you now admitting you subscribe to the Q?

been wondering what the believers are being told when they got the big Trump loss surprise and the promises they had been given turned out to be just like every false prophet throughout history.
Cuz the pattern has usually been that the fake new Jesus claims they had been predicting the failure all along and comes up with a new date for the end of times, or the end of Satanic Commie Pedophiles, whatever the lie du jour happens to be.

But you really are going on record as believing this?
Wow.

Do you believe in that Jew laser too?
deadeyedick Offline
#215 Posted: Sat, Jan 30 2021, 6:05 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
exactly what we're doing with plug-in electric cars...making Musk rich



here's an article that describes the impact on agriculture...maybe we should be subsidizing growing rice in farmlands that are now prone to flooding...


https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/climate-change-and-agriculture


Sorry, rice is a big source of co2 emissions. Gotta stop that.
deadeyedick Offline
#216 Posted: Sat, Jan 30 2021, 6:09 PM EST
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BTW, a few thousand jobs on the pipeline is NOTHING. It is estimated that the total jobs in the US connected to oil and gas is over 12 million and Joe wants those gone to the new green economy.
frankj1 Offline
#217 Posted: Sat, Jan 30 2021, 6:42 PM EST
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deadeyedick wrote:
Sorry, rice is a big source of co2 emissions. Gotta stop that.

and arsenic...but I still eat rice sometimes.
Hell, I still buy Goya products, so what do I know about being progressive?
deadeyedick Offline
#218 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 8:25 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
and arsenic...but I still eat rice sometimes.
Hell, I still buy Goya products, so what do I know about being progressive?


When I'm burning in a 130 degree Az summer "I'm going to blame some people in this room."
DrMaddVibe Offline
#219 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 9:47 AM EST
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deadeyedick wrote:
BTW, a few thousand jobs on the pipeline is NOTHING. It is estimated that the total jobs in the US connected to oil and gas is over 12 million and Joe wants those gone to the new green economy.



Factor in the lost jobs Canada had tied to this as well.

Just like I said in a post linked here YEARS ago...this is a win for China (which will be getting the product from Alberta) and Warren Buffett (who purchased railroads years ago) so this is another quid pro quo.
HockeyDad Offline
#220 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 9:52 AM EST
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Would anyone believe me if I said Berkshire Hathaway Energy owns 19% of the natural gas pipelines in the USA?
RayR Offline
#221 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 9:56 AM EST
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Q parrots 🦜 and climate crisis alarmists

Rice farming consumes CO2, rice is a water grass, a plant, plants make their own food, CO2 is one of the critical raw materials that plants need for photosynthesis to make their food and yours. Plants excrete O2 as a waste product of their metabolic cycle, good for people that like breathing.
Rice farming being a water culture naturally produces more methane from decaying vegetation under the water.
Nature is a chemical factory, it produces lots of stuff—deal with it.

The Union of Concerned Scientists, far leftist climate crisis doom and gloomer profiteers and political lobbyist insiders pushing an anti-capitalist agenda. Beats working at an honest job for a living I guess.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#222 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 10:04 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Would anyone believe me if I said Berkshire Hathaway Energy owns 19% of the natural gas pipelines in the USA?


Of course.

Diversification = profits

He can't effectively run it all on rails, more mess. Nor trucks, more accidents. Pipeline serves for the long distance and best alternative. If a lot of doom gloomers actually read up on how many pipelines...natural gas, petroleum and a host of others were under the ground or in place today they would get onboard with the XL pipeline. Instead they believe politics instead of common sense.
teedubbya Offline
#223 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 10:18 AM EST
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Been reading quite a bit about this lately to try to get a better understanding of the facts and the politics. Mostly source documents such as TCs study vs some “independent “ studies. Both indicate there will be spills incidentally it’s just a matter of scope and number.

The eminent domain issues were interesting as well.

Berkshire Hathaway is an interesting company. As is Koch industries who has their own interests in mind. That’s certainly part of the politics. Looks like at least ConocoPhillips no longer is involved. Hathaway may have 25% share in competing interests but who has an interest directly in this?

I honestly don’t know where I fall yet. I guess I’m not a good jet or shark. I’ll keep reading but never know as much as some folks that really work with this stuff. Don’t care about the left wing or right wing news or pundits though. Don’t really care what they want me to think.
teedubbya Offline
#224 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 10:19 AM EST
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Caveat. I didn’t look up berkshires ownership, just trusted HD.
teedubbya Offline
#225 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 10:20 AM EST
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ConocoPhillips already got their coin
DrMaddVibe Offline
#226 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 10:25 AM EST
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Meh...

https://climatechangedispatch.com/the-shallowness-of-opposing-the-keystone-xl-pipeline/
teedubbya Offline
#227 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 10:27 AM EST
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I’m going to keep digging to learn more directly before I settle. Y’all do what you want but I’m not interested in some of the biased articles and opinion pieces from the left or right. Equally bunk.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#228 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 10:31 AM EST
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You can do whatever you want. Read, learn, get a doctorate. It no longer matters.

Its already been settled.

Politics over Science wins again. If you oppose it, you're a heretic.
HockeyDad Offline
#229 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 10:31 AM EST
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I wouldn’t waste the time. Keystone XL is dead. Biden isn’t asking for anyone’s opinion.
teedubbya Offline
#230 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 10:38 AM EST
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It seems to shift back and forth from what I’ve seen politically and I’m not really looking to give an opinion or have a political spaz attack. I’m just want to learn. Y’all sound like learning truth is somehow bad lol.
RayR Offline
#231 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 10:38 AM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Meh...

https://climatechangedispatch.com/the-shallowness-of-opposing-the-keystone-xl-pipeline/


The last part summed it up well:

Quote:
In short: Without the pipeline, railroad capacity will grow, overall safety will decline, and economic costs will be higher. Who would benefit from that outcome?

These realities demonstrate that the opposition to Keystone XL is almost wholly ideological, driven by a quasi-religious abhorrence of fossil fuels and the wealth, human wellbeing, and independence from government coercion that they facilitate.

Perhaps a journalist might ask Biden to explain his reasoning, and how that rationale was informed, or not, by the truths summarized above.
teedubbya Offline
#232 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 10:42 AM EST
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And it won’t be the last time something similar happens politically. Maybe having a better view of things than what my line of “news” flow says will help me understand what is happening on another subject later.

It’s how I think. I’m not interested in the emotion of it or planting a flag and defending no matter what even when it means defending the absurd. I do like watching others do that though. It’s not only educational it’s amusing and fun.
teedubbya Offline
#233 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 10:44 AM EST
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What is XL something like phase 5 and the other 4 phases are complete.

Seems to me like the issue is a bit inflated by both sides.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#234 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 10:47 AM EST
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What did you think all of that footdragging the Obama administration did with their studies...to drag out more time...allow more suits...and proclaimed all of the non-sequiturs to show the low impact of this pipeline?

Like I already said...Politics over Science. It's a trend.



Here is a dirty little secret...Science NEVER wins over Politics.
HockeyDad Offline
#235 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 10:49 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
It seems to shift back and forth from what I’ve seen politically and I’m not really looking to give an opinion or have a political spaz attack. I’m just want to learn. Y’all sound like learning truth is somehow bad lol.


The truth is it is cancelled. That’s all the truth that is needed.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#236 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 10:52 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
The truth is it is cancelled. That’s all the truth that is needed.



Forget it...he's rolling.
HockeyDad Offline
#237 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 10:56 AM EST
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It’s a fence post junket.

Prolly more useful to study the ramifications of global warming and the ill fated journey of the Titanic.
teedubbya Offline
#238 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 11:01 AM EST
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Lol HD. I like and make fun of the histrionics too, just like you. It’s funny when emotional folks make broad declarations as fact and consider it done then try to pass it off as somehow smart. Blinders make people amusing.
HockeyDad Offline
#239 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 11:05 AM EST
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Well let me know how your fact finding journey goes.

Spoiler alert: It is cancelled for at least four years unless we can figure out how to ship Chinese solar panels through it!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#240 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 11:08 AM EST
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Everyone always forgets about Burisma.
teedubbya Offline
#241 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 11:09 AM EST
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Lol. It’s been going on longer than 4 so it very well could still have life.

Learning is bad because nothing I learn could ever apply later or help me understand people’s histrionics. I need to stop learning and just blindly pick a side or like you pick the one that is winning at the time lol.

HD is the king of the Missouri boat ride. (Josie Wales is a great movie)
HockeyDad Offline
#242 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 11:36 AM EST
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Spoiler alert: pick the side that is winning at the time. You’ll make out better.
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#243 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 11:45 AM EST
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How can an American president HALT CONSTRUCTION IN CANADA???

I SAY ...KEEP building the thing in Canada and make a dock in Canada on a great lake.

Then tanker it over to the U.S. AND UNLOAD IT in America somewhere...

Why just abandon a half or two thirds completed pipeline?
Mr. Jones Offline
#244 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 11:52 AM EST
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Ooopppppppssss....

Just saw the map of the pipeline...

No where near the GREAT LAKES....

ROSEANNE ROSEANNA DANA...

NEVERRRRMINDDDD...
deadeyedick Offline
#245 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 5:16 PM EST
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" Today I'm directing my administration to cut through the red tape, break through the bureaucratic hurdles, and make the XL Pipeline a priority, to go ahead and get it done.

~2012 Barak Obama

Read: The New Map Energy, Climate, and the Clash of Nations by Pulitzer Prize winner Daniel Yergin

Note: I am not a fan of the Oil and Gas industry and believe where we can use renewable energy we should but we can't and won't do without it for our lifetime unless there are technical breakthroughs not on the table at present.
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#246 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 5:29 PM EST
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deadeyedick wrote:
" Today I'm directing my administration to cut through the red tape, break through the bureaucratic hurdles, and make the XL Pipeline a priority, to go ahead and get it done.

~2012 Barak Obama

Read: The New Map Energy, Climate, and the Clash of Nations by Pulitzer Prize winner Daniel Yergin

Note: I am not a fan of the Oil and Gas industry and believe where we can use renewable energy we should but we can't and won't do without it for our lifetime unless there are technical breakthroughs not on the table at present.

this does not make you a lunatic...
teedubbya Offline
#247 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 6:22 PM EST
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All I know is without phase 5 of the pipeline we all are going to die.
CelticBomber Offline
#248 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 6:28 PM EST
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Biden just ate my baby! Conservative Dingos outraged!
teedubbya Offline
#249 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 6:31 PM EST
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Do t worry trump will make him throw it up.
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#250 Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2021, 6:32 PM EST
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Think the dems will propose a fetal stem cell pipeline from Compton to the Mayo Clinic? Or maybe one for the adrenaline blood from scared babies?
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