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tailgater Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Jan 27 2022, 9:52 PM EST
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Can someone please explain to me HOW voter registration laws are racist?

What part of the law(s) specifically make it's racist?



As a follow up, how is the vaccine mandate in Boston NOT racist?
It's well known that people of color have the lowest % vaccinated. So wouldn't a law forbidding them from entering a bar or club or restaurant or sporting event therefore be racist? By excluding blacks at a much higher rate than excluding whites, and using a nonsense law to do it?

Sure. The new Mayor Wuhan is a woman. And a minority.
So she gets a pass.

While people like Ted Cruz get raked over the coals for wanting laws that would help prevent voter fraud.
Of course he's a man. And hispanic.

Wait.
BuckyB93 Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Jan 27 2022, 9:57 PM EST
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Well, for starters... Bugs Bunny (your Avatar) is known to be racist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSSkeb6qdCI

I shouldn't have to explain any further.

Disney... totally racist and should be banned too...

https://bestlifeonline.com/disney-movies-racist/
rfenst Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Jan 27 2022, 10:13 PM EST
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How can you ever compare the right to vote to the right to enter a bar? That's funny.
Mr. Jones Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Jan 27 2022, 10:41 PM EST
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I had to show my I.D. at every polling station since
1974....every freakin' time...

WTF?

WHY IS IT SO CONTROVERSIAL?

Who are these LOSERS ?
AMERICAN LOSERS WHO HAVE NO I.D....
WHY THE F*CK don't they have a driver's license?
Are they on the LAM?
ARE THEY FELONS?
ARE THEY CAPPERS WHO CANT get to the DMV?
ARE THEY ILLITERATE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS? ( YES)
Speyside2 Online
#5 Posted: Thu, Jan 27 2022, 10:52 PM EST
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And yet you give no rational explanation why the new voter laws are not racist. Rather you jump illogically to an unrelated subject. In fact your entire post says nothing about new voter laws. Wicked Smaht!!!
Krazeehorse Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Jan 27 2022, 10:52 PM EST
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Mr. Jones wrote:
I had to show my I.D. at every polling station since
1974....every freakin' time...

WTF?
ARE THEY ILLITERATE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS? ( YES)

And/or dead.
Dg west deptford Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Jan 27 2022, 10:57 PM EST
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No habla
Sunoverbeach Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Jan 27 2022, 11:02 PM EST
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Why does a cow wear a bell around its neck?
Because its horns don't work
frankj1 Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Jan 27 2022, 11:29 PM EST
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why are most of the closed voting places in minority neighborhoods?
Why not in high income neighborhoods?

That's just one thang...just asking.
HockeyDad Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Jan 27 2022, 11:36 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
why are most of the closed voting places in minority neighborhoods?
Why not in high income neighborhoods?

That's just one thang...just asking.


Because the Jews wanted it that way?
frankj1 Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Jan 27 2022, 11:42 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Because the Jews wanted it that way?

I already know you knew.
Let the other kids answer!




be a little careful. rayr thinks you are always serious.
rfenst Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Jan 27 2022, 11:47 PM EST
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I wonder how many people who are in doubt about the legitimacy of the vote ever think about volunteering to work their polls on election day, volunteering to work for their supervisor of elections during the counting process, or at least serve as a independent or partisan poll or count observer. That seems like it makes sense to me.
RayR Offline
#13 Posted: Fri, Jan 28 2022, 12:27 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
I already know you knew.
Let the other kids answer!
be a little careful. rayr thinks you are always serious.


Like HD told you..."Because the Jews wanted it that way?"
RayR Offline
#14 Posted: Fri, Jan 28 2022, 12:34 AM EST
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rfenst wrote:
I wonder how many people who are in doubt about the legitimacy of the vote ever think about volunteering to work their polls on election day, volunteering to work for their supervisor of elections during the counting process, or at least serve as a independent or partisan poll or count observer. That seems like it makes sense to me.


Around here in the burbs, Democrat blue-haired old ladies have a monopoly as poll workers.
bgz Offline
#15 Posted: Fri, Jan 28 2022, 8:11 AM EST
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Trumpers who worry that their racism is in jeopardy... it's a new thing.

It's a new kind of wokeness... "oh sh*t, they're trying to take my racism away"...

Ya... T-Wokes (T is for tail).
Speyside2 Online
#16 Posted: Fri, Jan 28 2022, 2:11 PM EST
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Robert, are you advocating for RayR to work as an election judge?
Stogie1020 Offline
#17 Posted: Fri, Jan 28 2022, 2:18 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
why are most of the closed voting places in minority neighborhoods?
Why not in high income neighborhoods?

That's just one thang...just asking.

Honest question, were there twice as many in low income neighborhoods to begin with (ya know, because poor people cant drive far) and by closing half of them it actually balances out the number in poor/rich areas?
Stogie1020 Offline
#18 Posted: Fri, Jan 28 2022, 2:20 PM EST
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Also, curious if anyone here believes that requiring ID to vote disenfrachises people?
HockeyDad Offline
#19 Posted: Fri, Jan 28 2022, 2:30 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
How can you ever compare the right to vote to the right to enter a bar? That's funny.


One you can get a drink and the other is rigged by the Democrats. Apples and oranges.
RayR Offline
#20 Posted: Fri, Jan 28 2022, 2:43 PM EST
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Speyside2 wrote:
Robert, are you advocating for RayR to work as an election judge?


election judge? Are you mad?
Around here you'd have to believe that Duhmacracy and Demagoguery is what makes voting great to even get in the door.
RayR Offline
#21 Posted: Fri, Jan 28 2022, 3:04 PM EST
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Stogie1020 wrote:
Also, curious if anyone here believes that requiring ID to vote disenfrachises people?


It disenfranchises dead people, convicted felons, illegal invaders, and people too stupid to know what an ID is.
Basically the preferred base of the Democratic Party.
Speyside2 Online
#22 Posted: Fri, Jan 28 2022, 3:14 PM EST
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Ray, of course that would never happen. It was a hypothetical question.
rfenst Offline
#23 Posted: Fri, Jan 28 2022, 4:26 PM EST
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Stogie1020 wrote:
Also, curious if anyone here believes that requiring ID to vote disenfrachises people?

I certainly don't, but I also don't think that is all there is to it.
Stogie1020 Offline
#24 Posted: Fri, Jan 28 2022, 4:52 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
I certainly don't, but I also don't think that is all there is to it.

I doubt anyone thinks that is the panacea, but it sure seems like every elected (d) thinks it is akin to lynchings. It's a reasonable, generally acceptable measure to improve voting integrity. And the Democrat politicians HATE it.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#25 Posted: Fri, Jan 28 2022, 5:31 PM EST
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How do you deal with kleptomania?
Take something for it
tailgater Offline
#26 Posted: Fri, Jan 28 2022, 11:15 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
How can you ever compare the right to vote to the right to enter a bar? That's funny.



Really?
That's your take on this?
tailgater Offline
#27 Posted: Fri, Jan 28 2022, 11:16 PM EST
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Speyside2 wrote:
And yet you give no rational explanation why the new voter laws are not racist. Rather you jump illogically to an unrelated subject. In fact your entire post says nothing about new voter laws. Wicked Smaht!!!


Speyside is a pedophile.

I don't need to explain why he is. Just saying it makes it so.
tailgater Offline
#28 Posted: Fri, Jan 28 2022, 11:22 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
why are most of the closed voting places in minority neighborhoods?
Why not in high income neighborhoods?

That's just one thang...just asking.


Thank you.

Is that what the hoopla is about?
Because there are no specifics in the outcry. Just the trigger word "racist".

Further, it has been deemed racist by those on the left if municipalities did nothing except return to their voting laws that were in place prior to the 2020 covid election rules. That has nothing to do with voting places regardless of neighborhood ethnicity.
frankj1 Offline
#29 Posted: Fri, Jan 28 2022, 11:23 PM EST
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cabin fever!
and it hasn't started snowing yet.
frankj1 Offline
#30 Posted: Fri, Jan 28 2022, 11:24 PM EST
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correction. it has started to snow...
tailgater Offline
#31 Posted: Fri, Jan 28 2022, 11:25 PM EST
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bgz wrote:
Trumpers who worry that their racism is in jeopardy... it's a new thing.

It's a new kind of wokeness... "oh sh*t, they're trying to take my racism away"...

Ya... T-Wokes (T is for tail).


Poor bgz.

He no understand pale face question, so he make a heap big lie.
frankj1 Offline
#32 Posted: Fri, Jan 28 2022, 11:33 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Thank you.

Is that what the hoopla is about?
Because there are no specifics in the outcry. Just the trigger word "racist".

Further, it has been deemed racist by those on the left if municipalities did nothing except return to their voting laws that were in place prior to the 2020 covid election rules. That has nothing to do with voting places regardless of neighborhood ethnicity.




also a ton of mail boxes and/or ballot boxes have allegedly been (strategically) removed...but I think that started with the new USPS leader, so before the last election.
I'm not gonna do the research though, at least not tonight.
Speyside2 Online
#33 Posted: Fri, Jan 28 2022, 11:53 PM EST
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Tail if you want to cry wolf prove it. Your accusation is the new voting laws are not racist. I agree that asking for voter ID is the correct process period. As for the rest if you make an accusation it is up to you to prove it.
bgz Offline
#34 Posted: Sat, Jan 29 2022, 1:02 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Poor bgz.

He no understand pale face question, so he make a heap big lie.



You're the one crying about people crying about racism all the time... like all the time...
tailgater Offline
#35 Posted: Sat, Jan 29 2022, 10:07 AM EST
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Speyside2 wrote:
Tail if you want to cry wolf prove it. Your accusation is the new voting laws are not racist. I agree that asking for voter ID is the correct process period. As for the rest if you make an accusation it is up to you to prove it.



You don't know what the term "accusation" means. Do you?

I never said the voter laws were or weren't racist. I made no accusation. None.

Yet this is your second post whining about something that didn't happen.

It would be funny. If I thought you were kidding.




tailgater Offline
#36 Posted: Sat, Jan 29 2022, 10:10 AM EST
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bgz wrote:
You're the one crying about people crying about racism all the time... like all the time...


See post above.

I asked a question.
I also gave an example of actual racist policy to show the hypocrisy. But that wasn't even necessary for someone to explain WHY the liberals are peeing their pants over laws that would require an ID. To vote. To prove they are who they claim they are.

Didn't mean to get your loincloth in wad.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#37 Posted: Sat, Jan 29 2022, 10:28 AM EST
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Tail, just put him on ignore and you won't have to worry about seeing his garbage hissy fits.
Speyside2 Online
#38 Posted: Sat, Jan 29 2022, 10:48 AM EST
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I would say you implicitly made an accusation by asking for proof. But I will restate myself. No one needs to show you anything. SCOTUS will eventually decide the legality of these laws. No one here other than Robert has any qualifications to show you about anything of a legal nature. By stating the question the way you did it is a fair assumption to say you think the laws are not racist. Why not ask to show me why the laws are racist or not racist?
bgz Offline
#39 Posted: Sat, Jan 29 2022, 10:54 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
See post above.

I asked a question.
I also gave an example of actual racist policy to show the hypocrisy. But that wasn't even necessary for someone to explain WHY the liberals are peeing their pants over laws that would require an ID. To vote. To prove they are who they claim they are.

Didn't mean to get your loincloth in wad.




I just know how sensitive you are on race in general. It consumes you.

Why? Don't know, haven't figured that one out yet.
bgz Offline
#40 Posted: Sat, Jan 29 2022, 10:56 AM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Tail, just put him on ignore and you won't have to worry about seeing his garbage hissy fits.


Lol, I made an ignore list!!!!
tonygraz Offline
#41 Posted: Sat, Jan 29 2022, 11:17 AM EST
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I should nominate you for the CBID commie list---13 is not enough.
tailgater Offline
#42 Posted: Sat, Jan 29 2022, 12:12 PM EST
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bgz wrote:
Lol, I made an ignore list!!!!


Read this too quickly.
Thought you said "I am an ingoramus"
frankj1 Offline
#43 Posted: Sat, Jan 29 2022, 12:13 PM EST
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which states are only asking for a voter ID?
tailgater Offline
#44 Posted: Sat, Jan 29 2022, 12:20 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
which states are only asking for a voter ID?


Let me start over.

Somebody tell ME what is racist about the policies. Because that's all the liberals can say.

Frank, you gave an example but without any support. I believe you because you're you. But if this were the focus from the liberals, they would be specific. It's a slam dunk to say "Texas is closing 100 voting stations and 90 are in minority neighborhoods." (made up example)

Instead, they're talking about voter ID and racism within the same sentence. It's the main talking point.
I don't know the laws because I'm not in those states.
So I asked if anyone knew.

Instead of intelligent debate (here?) or even straight answers (other than yours), I get accused of comparing voting rights to a dinner out, and then I get two yahoos blubbering so much nonsense it's painfully obvious they don't comprehend even a simple question.

tailgater Offline
#45 Posted: Sat, Jan 29 2022, 12:27 PM EST
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bgz wrote:
I just know how sensitive you are on race in general. It consumes you.

Why? Don't know, haven't figured that one out yet.


Wow.
How out of touch are you?
America is in the throes of a race war.

Have you forgotten the summer of BLM when they burned our cities?

We have a pending opening in the Supreme Court.
Our brain dead dementia laden president has vowed to choose the replacement based on gender and color.
States want to implement voter ID and they get shouted down for being racist.

I asked a seemingly simple question and you yourself called me racist.
For asking a question.

Not sure what they taught you on the reservation, but asking a question is a means to learn answers. The fact that people get offended by the question without even answering it tells me they're afraid of the answer. Or don't know. Or are afraid that they don't know.
But they still believe it's true because they were told to believe it.

Works for you, fine.
Doesn't work for me.
bgz Offline
#46 Posted: Sat, Jan 29 2022, 12:32 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Let me start over.

Somebody tell ME what is racist about the policies. Because that's all the liberals can say.

Frank, you gave an example but without any support. I believe you because you're you. But if this were the focus from the liberals, they would be specific. It's a slam dunk to say "Texas is closing 100 voting stations and 90 are in minority neighborhoods." (made up example)

Instead, they're talking about voter ID and racism within the same sentence. It's the main talking point.
I don't know the laws because I'm not in those states.
So I asked if anyone knew.

Instead of intelligent debate (here?) or even straight answers (other than yours), I get accused of comparing voting rights to a dinner out, and then I get two yahoos blubbering so much nonsense it's painfully obvious they don't comprehend even a simple question.



You misunderstand... or don't comprehend if you will... I simply don't care about your opinion, or your questions... or answering your questions. I understand that you are just from a different time period and all that so your world view is limited because of your inability to adapt... so you are confused.
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#47 Posted: Sat, Jan 29 2022, 12:33 PM EST
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Speyside2 wrote:
I would say you implicitly made an accusation by asking for proof. But I will restate myself. No one needs to show you anything. SCOTUS will eventually decide the legality of these laws. No one here other than Robert has any qualifications to show you about anything of a legal nature. By stating the question the way you did it is a fair assumption to say you think the laws are not racist. Why not ask to show me why the laws are racist or not racist?


This is literally the opposite of how a question should be treated.

"mommy, is 2 plus 2 equal to 4?"


"why do you think it's NOT 4?!!! Tell me why you think it isn't!!!!"


Spey, it's OK if you don't know the answer.
Heck, I don't know either.
But it's on the news as if it's fact. They call them "Voter Suppression Laws". And the conversation identifies those suppressed as being persons of color.

But with nothing to show WHY or HOW it suppresses them.

They are meant to suppress one thing: Fraud.

If they fail, or worse, if they DO suppress minorities disproportionately, then we should discuss THAT. Not the fancy media tags or headlines.
tailgater Offline
#48 Posted: Sat, Jan 29 2022, 12:36 PM EST
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bgz wrote:
You misunderstand... or don't comprehend if you will... I simply don't care about your opinion, or your questions... or answering your questions. I understand that you are just from a different time period and all that so your world view is limited because of your inability to adapt... so you are confused.


Deflect. Because you don't know the answer.
That's not opinion.
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#49 Posted: Sat, Jan 29 2022, 12:36 PM EST
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so I'm not a spokesperson for this and I am not especially up to date nor addicted to the cause, though I do think voting should be easier regardless of race, class, income...

but, IF laws are being customized and redistricting is being tailored to lower voter turnout in pre-selected neighborhoods, that just might be racist.

That said, I have no specifics but am aware that many Libs say that is what is happening. I should no more specifics, but so should you.

I'll add that it seems to be fact that there are more people who vote D than R so it would benefit R's to lower turnout...possible motive?
So maybe IF these new laws are designed to lower D turnout and minorities happen to heavily vote D when they do vote, racism might be an unintentional secondary result...?

Would R's push for the exact same limitations if minorities were voting more conservative than they do?

I dunno.
I'm like uh idiot.
tailgater Offline
#50 Posted: Sat, Jan 29 2022, 12:50 PM EST
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Frank,
You know that most people automatically think about voter ID when they hear about suppression.
It's been a buzz word for a long time.

Somehow, people think it's racist to require an ID to vote.

It's been said so many times it's almost just accepted as fact.
Yet the very premise itself is racist.
Why would a person of color be less able to procure an ID. Especially when that ID would be free of charge if that's an impediment.


So I agree with you that gerrymandering the polling locations isn't typically done with good intentions. But is that based on race? Or politics? Because redistricting is common place in our own state. Is that racist? (I never thought so, but that's not my go-to outcry like it is for the libs).

I don't think the national outcry is over a closed ballot box. Too easy to showcase, and too easy to remedy without the hoopla.

What I do know is that I won't get an honest answer from these boards.
Which is too bad.
Used to be that behind the name calling and jokes a person could learn another perspective.

Used to be.
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