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DrafterX Offline
#1 Posted: Sat, Feb 19 2022, 11:31 AM EST
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There is one of the biggest countries in Europe by territory with 41 mln population, where highly educated people (35,3 mln) are strongly motivated to work.

How the nation of Ukraine ranks:

1st in Europe in proven recoverable reserves of uranium ores;
2nd place in Europe and 10th place in the world in terms of titanium ore reserves;

2nd place in the world in terms of explored reserves of manganese ores (2.3 billion tons, or 12% of the world's reserves);

2nd largest iron ore reserves in the world (30 billion tons);

2nd place in Europe in terms of mercury ore reserves;

3rd place in Europe (13th place in the world) in shale gas reserves (22 trillion cubic meters)

4th in the world by the total value of natural resources;
7th place in the world in coal reserves (33.9 billion tons)

Ukraine is an agricultural country:

1st in Europe in terms of arable land area;
3rd place in the world by the area of black soil (25% of world's volume);
1st place in the world in exports of sunflower and sunflower oil;
2nd place in the world in barley production and 4th place in barley exports;
3rd largest producer and 4th largest exporter of corn in the world;
4th largest producer of potatoes in the world;
5th largest rye producer in the world;
5th place in the world in bee production (75,000 tons);
8th place in the world in wheat exports;
9th place in the world in the production of chicken eggs;
16th place in the world in cheese exports.

Ukraine can meet the food needs of 600 million people.

Ukraine is an industrialized country:

1st in Europe in ammonia production;
2-е Europe's and 4th largest natural gas pipeline system in the world (142.5 bln cubic meters of gas throughput capacity in the EU);
3rd largest in Europe and 8th largest in the world in terms of installed capacity of nuclear power plants;
3rd place in Europe and 11th in the world in terms of rail network length (21,700 km);
3rd place in the world (after the U.S. and France) in production of locators and locating equipment;
3rd largest iron exporter in the world
4th largest exporter of turbines for nuclear power plants in the world;
4th world's largest manufacturer of rocket launchers;
4th place in the world in clay exports
4th place in the world in titanium exports
8th place in the world in exports of ores and concentrates;
9th place in the world in exports of defense industry products;
10th largest steel producer in the world (32.4 million tons).

Think
8trackdisco Offline
#2 Posted: Sat, Feb 19 2022, 11:43 AM EST
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Forgot #2 in Europe for hacking.
Near the top in political corruption.

Need a proxy war of some sort pretty quickly. The defense companies have boom-blue balls.
A nice healthy release will be good for new order fulfillment and accompanying stock price.

Supplying the Saudis so they can go boom on the Houthis isn't satisfaction enough.
bgz Offline
#3 Posted: Sat, Feb 19 2022, 2:37 PM EST
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Don't forget about the number one exporter of barbers with coke nails.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#4 Posted: Sat, Feb 19 2022, 9:10 PM EST
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Although I broke a lot of laws as a teenager, I straightened out immediately upon turning 18, when I realized the state had a legal right to execute me
- GC
Cheno Offline
#5 Posted: Sat, Feb 19 2022, 10:08 PM EST
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
Although I broke a lot of laws as a teenager, I straightened out immediately upon turning 18, when I realized the state had a legal right to execute me
- GC


I feel attacked that my initials are GC here.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#6 Posted: Sat, Feb 19 2022, 10:12 PM EST
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Guilty conscience?
frankj1 Offline
#7 Posted: Sat, Feb 19 2022, 11:11 PM EST
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good catch
Cheno Offline
#8 Posted: Sat, Feb 19 2022, 11:17 PM EST
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Don't ask questions you don't want me to answer.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#9 Posted: Sat, Feb 19 2022, 11:29 PM EST
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LOL
bgz Offline
#10 Posted: Sat, Feb 19 2022, 11:48 PM EST
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Goat Chaser
tailgater Offline
#11 Posted: Sun, Feb 20 2022, 2:22 PM EST
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George Clooney
Sunoverbeach Offline
#12 Posted: Sun, Feb 20 2022, 11:26 PM EST
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How is it possible to have a civil war?
- GC
Burner02 Offline
#13 Posted: Tue, Feb 22 2022, 7:24 AM EST
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“Why does Ukraine matter?

The current situation will show just how weak and indecisive the current administration is.

For what ever reason they are always two steps behind and that is a very kind assessment.
JGKAMIN Offline
#14 Posted: Tue, Feb 22 2022, 5:57 PM EST
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Ukraine? Like the Ukraine where Hunter Biden worked for Burisma? Sumsofbitches…
frankj1 Offline
#15 Posted: Tue, Feb 22 2022, 7:24 PM EST
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Burner02 wrote:
“Why does Ukraine matter?

The current situation will show just how weak and indecisive the current administration is.

For what ever reason they are always two steps behind and that is a very kind assessment.

Yet we are not acting as the world police, finally.
We are not acting unilaterally.

Isn't that something cons have complained about?
Should he beat his chest and threaten force that we don't really want to use?
It can't be both ways.

The world, or at least the part that matters here, is in on all of this with us.

I'm for that and won't root against the outcome just to make someone look bad.


And I did not vote for Biden.
HockeyDad Offline
#16 Posted: Tue, Feb 22 2022, 8:09 PM EST
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I can’t find almost anybody who voted for Biden.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#17 Posted: Tue, Feb 22 2022, 8:13 PM EST
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I like it when a flower or a little tuft of grass grows through a crack in the concrete. It’s so f**kin’ heroic.
- GC
Krazeehorse Offline
#18 Posted: Tue, Feb 22 2022, 9:17 PM EST
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In some respects I’m more concerned about what’s going on in Canada than I am about the Ukraine.
bgz Offline
#19 Posted: Tue, Feb 22 2022, 11:45 PM EST
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We need more white people posturing up on our borders so we can be like the cool kids...

Actually, we can change it up... stick our illegal (er, I mean undocumented) aliens up on the north border and fast pass them to citizenship for keeping people out.

No polite white mother f*ckers getting across that border... like ever.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Feb 23 2022, 6:08 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
I can’t find almost anybody who voted for Biden.



They run like rats off a sinking ship.
JGKAMIN Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Feb 23 2022, 7:09 AM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
They run like rats off a sinking ship.

At least those that were still alive when they voted…
Burner02 Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Feb 23 2022, 9:42 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
Yet we are not acting as the world police, finally.
We are not acting unilaterally.

Isn't that something cons have complained about?
Should he beat his chest and threaten force that we don't really want to use?
It can't be both ways.

The world, or at least the part that matters here, is in on all of this with us.

I'm for that and won't root against the outcome just to make someone look bad.


And I did not vote for Biden.



Frank, you are giving me way too much credit and I’m sorry that you got the opinion that I am pulling against the sitting President.

Not once have I ever pulled against a sitting President while in uniform or as a DOD civilian. Not Clinton, Obama or our current President. Well, maybe I did pull against them during elections.

I’m more about the success of our country than the failure of any individual. Frankly, hoping for a sitting President to fail is not a good look. We only have to revisit our most recent administration to see how that went.

My opinion was based on the current players’ track records. Nothing more, nothing less. Like these debacles

• Iraq drawdown/departure which gave birth to the “B-Team”
• Afghanistan **** show
• Porous southern border
• Gas prices
• Inflation
• Dramatic increase in crime
to name just a few.

FYI, I didn’t vote for Biden either.

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to **** things up.” - Barack Obama
Speyside2 Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, Feb 23 2022, 10:29 AM EST
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We needed to be out of Iraq and Afghanistan. They were cluster f*cks from start to finish. The Biden administration had no plan, just as they have no plan for the Ukraine. That said, I think there was no coherent plan other than to invade.

Porous Southern Border you betcha. Though separating young children from their parents is immoral no matter what the law says.

Inflation was inevitable due to pent up consumer demand during lockdowns and mandates, that said it should not be anywhere near as bad as it is.

Dramatic crime increase, yup.

Gas prices surging yup. Though our whole energy policy is absurd. We produce enough oil that we could be 100% independent and still export 4M barrels a day, that export number is steadily increasing.

Also add in lies from the government, though Trump was worse.
RayR Offline
#24 Posted: Wed, Feb 23 2022, 11:05 AM EST
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Speyside2 wrote:

Inflation was inevitable due to pent up consumer demand during lockdowns and mandates, that said it should not be anywhere near as bad as it is.


That's weasel talk, excuses like you'd hear from the progturd regime for their disastrous economic interventions and plundering. The essence of inflation is not a general rise in prices but an increase in the supply of money, which in turns sets in motion a general increase in the prices of goods and services. Da congress and the FED did that while at the same time lockdowns and mandates crippled the producers' ability to supply the natural consumer demand for goods at low prices.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#25 Posted: Wed, Feb 23 2022, 5:26 PM EST
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The Christians gave him Sunday, the Jews gave him Saturday, and the Muslims gave him Friday. God has a three day weekend
- GC
Brewha Offline
#26 Posted: Wed, Feb 23 2022, 7:18 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
I can’t find almost anybody who voted for Biden.

Try leaving the bathroom….

Herfing
DrafterX Offline
#27 Posted: Wed, Feb 23 2022, 10:51 PM EST
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Sounds da Ukraine will be Russia soon... and Biden has his thumb up his ass.. Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#28 Posted: Wed, Feb 23 2022, 11:05 PM EST
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Burner02 wrote:
Frank, you are giving me way too much credit and I’m sorry that you got the opinion that I am pulling against the sitting President.

Not once have I ever pulled against a sitting President while in uniform or as a DOD civilian. Not Clinton, Obama or our current President. Well, maybe I did pull against them during elections.

I’m more about the success of our country than the failure of any individual. Frankly, hoping for a sitting President to fail is not a good look. We only have to revisit our most recent administration to see how that went.

My opinion was based on the current players’ track records. Nothing more, nothing less. Like these debacles

• Iraq drawdown/departure which gave birth to the “B-Team”
• Afghanistan **** show
• Porous southern border
• Gas prices
• Inflation
• Dramatic increase in crime
to name just a few.

FYI, I didn’t vote for Biden either.

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to **** things up.” - Barack Obama

I truly give you the credit, and respect, you deserve. That is why we can talk.

So...

The free world seems to be with us on this, we are not on our own. Biden, or his team, has shifted the way we deal with this stuff and I'm for it. It may fail, but it will be a failure on the part of a multinational front. We are on the right side of this.

The previous administration shat all over NATO, Europe, basically everything post WWII which I feel created openings for Putin. Building a coalition takes time, rebuilding one takes more time and that is not an option now. As old and lifeless as we know Biden to now be, at least he is a known commodity to those nations who might be more willing to stop Commie aggression with him than with someone who wipes his shoes on them

I also root for the success of administrations in whom I have doubts. But I was ashamed for us when Trump spoke of love letters with N. Korea's brutal leader, when he made goo goo eyes at Putin, when he tried to tell us he looked in his eyes and believed the ruthless murderous dictator was telling him the truth...and if one connects the dots, that is exactly why Putin wanted Trump in office. He owned him.

Now he wants to create chaos here as our current administration has known what he really is for two decades.





DrafterX Offline
#29 Posted: Wed, Feb 23 2022, 11:24 PM EST
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Biden should drop MOABS all over Moscow... if he doesn't he's a ****... Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#30 Posted: Wed, Feb 23 2022, 11:35 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Biden should drop MOABS all over Moscow... if he doesn't he's a ****... Mellow

I might know a guy.
You want I should make a call?
DrafterX Offline
#31 Posted: Wed, Feb 23 2022, 11:43 PM EST
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Yes... I got a couple guys ready too.. Mellow
HockeyDad Offline
#32 Posted: Thu, Feb 24 2022, 12:24 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
I truly give you the credit, and respect, you deserve. That is why we can talk.

So...

The free world seems to be with us on this, we are not on our own. Biden, or his team, has shifted the way we deal with this stuff and I'm for it. It may fail, but it will be a failure on the part of a multinational front. We are on the right side of this.

The previous administration shat all over NATO, Europe, basically everything post WWII which I feel created openings for Putin. Building a coalition takes time, rebuilding one takes more time and that is not an option now. As old and lifeless as we know Biden to now be, at least he is a known commodity to those nations who might be more willing to stop Commie aggression with him than with someone who wipes his shoes on them

I also root for the success of administrations in whom I have doubts. But I was ashamed for us when Trump spoke of love letters with N. Korea's brutal leader, when he made goo goo eyes at Putin, when he tried to tell us he looked in his eyes and believed the ruthless murderous dictator was telling him the truth...and if one connects the dots, that is exactly why Putin wanted Trump in office. He owned him.

Now he wants to create chaos here as our current administration has known what he really is for two decades.




Couple of points…

Ukraine is not in NATO

NATO or Europe did not shrink under Trump’s administration

Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 during the Obama/Biden administration and annexed Crimea.

Trump blocked the the Nord Stream2 pipeline

Russia and Putin waited out Trump’s departure

Biden lifted the Nord Steam2 pipeline sanction

Russia has now launched a much larger invasion of Ukraine under the Biden administration.

Sucks to be Ukraine

…and Trump

Argh!
izonfire Offline
#33 Posted: Thu, Feb 24 2022, 12:51 AM EST
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Putin just wants his son to be on the board of one of Ukraine’s largest natural gas companies, Burisma Holdings Ltd.
What’s so wrong with that???
DrMaddVibe Offline
#34 Posted: Thu, Feb 24 2022, 6:52 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
I truly give you the credit, and respect, you deserve. That is why we can talk.

So...

The free world seems to be with us on this, we are not on our own. Biden, or his team, has shifted the way we deal with this stuff and I'm for it. It may fail, but it will be a failure on the part of a multinational front. We are on the right side of this.

The previous administration shat all over NATO, Europe, basically everything post WWII which I feel created openings for Putin. Building a coalition takes time, rebuilding one takes more time and that is not an option now. As old and lifeless as we know Biden to now be, at least he is a known commodity to those nations who might be more willing to stop Commie aggression with him than with someone who wipes his shoes on them

I also root for the success of administrations in whom I have doubts. But I was ashamed for us when Trump spoke of love letters with N. Korea's brutal leader, when he made goo goo eyes at Putin, when he tried to tell us he looked in his eyes and believed the ruthless murderous dictator was telling him the truth...and if one connects the dots, that is exactly why Putin wanted Trump in office. He owned him.

Now he wants to create chaos here as our current administration has known what he really is for two decades.







Turn off CNN already. You've been lied to and you're spreading them. READ what he ACTUALLY said.

BUCK: Mr. President, in the last 24 hours we know Russia has said that they are recognizing two breakaway regions of Ukraine, and now this White House is stating that this is an “invasion.” That’s a strong word. What went wrong here? What has the current occupant of the Oval Office done that he could have done differently?

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, what went wrong was a rigged election and what went wrong is a candidate that shouldn’t be there and a man that has no concept of what he’s doing. I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, “This is genius.” Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine. Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.

So, Putin is now saying, “It’s independent,” a large section of Ukraine. I said, “How smart is that?” And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. That’s strongest peace force… We could use that on our southern border. That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep peace all right. No, but think of it. Here’s a guy who’s very savvy… I know him very well. Very, very well.

By the way, this never would have happened with us. Had I been in office, not even thinkable. This would never have happened. But here’s a guy that says, you know, “I’m gonna declare a big portion of Ukraine independent,” he used the word “independent,” “and we’re gonna go out and we’re gonna go in and we’re gonna help keep peace.” You gotta say that’s pretty savvy. And you know what the response was from Biden? There was no response. They didn’t have one for that. No, it’s very sad. Very sad.

BUCK: Do you think the southern border is just gonna continue to deteriorate?

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Yeah.

https://www.clayandbuck.com/president-trump-with-cb-from-mar-a-lago/


For someone that claims he didn't vote for Biden...you in turn ushered King Bidas in. Everything the DNC tries to paint on Trump they actually do. Don't be a low rent IQ like the schlub on the other thread.

http://www.cigarbid.com/...-Putin-has-harmed-Russia

Do a little research on your own. I listened to the whole interview and it was great to hear a leader actually talk without softballs being lobbed at him from people that wouldn't follow up. Clear articulate sentences that Creepy Joe cannot form. Trump's sarcasm was there unfortunately you chose not to listen to any of it and instead picked up the talking points from the DNC presstitutes. Trump got NATO to pony up for once and got "Rocketman" to stop his nonsense. We all know he's China's little "pit bull" and uses him and North Korea at their whim. I'm pretty sure Japan was quite happy to not have missiles flying overhead and Taiwan not getting buzzed by CCP fighter jets daily under Trump, but hey Iron Joe is there to save the day!!!! We're all safe. Freedom and Democracy are still a thing and those evil despots well they all know better and stay in their own sandbox now with him at the helm!
bgz Offline
#35 Posted: Thu, Feb 24 2022, 9:42 AM EST
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To some up DMV's article...

CNN Bad, they lie.
Trump good, he no lie.
Trump say Putin smart he looks up to smart Russian.
Trump scream rigged! (again)
Trump want to suck Putin's c*ck.
Trump Already sucked lil Kim's c*ck.
Trump likes to suck authoritarians c*cks... he's a real d*ck-ta(s)ter.
Trump will not suck YOUR c*ck...
But he will let you suck his c*ck.
8trackdisco Offline
#36 Posted: Thu, Feb 24 2022, 9:56 AM EST
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Posts: 60,078
HockeyDad wrote:
I can’t find almost anybody who voted for Biden.


So you are saying the election was stolen? Where were you on January 6th?
8trackdisco Offline
#37 Posted: Thu, Feb 24 2022, 9:59 AM EST
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bgz wrote:
We need more white people posturing up on our borders so we can be like the cool kids...

Actually, we can change it up... stick our illegal (er, I mean undocumented) aliens up on the north border and fast pass them to citizenship for keeping people out.

No polite white mother f*ckers getting across that border... like ever.


Understand the perspective. Whitey hasn’t done your peeps many favors since first vacationing in Massachusetts.
bgz Offline
#38 Posted: Thu, Feb 24 2022, 10:19 AM EST
Joined: 07-29-2014
Posts: 13,023
8trackdisco wrote:
Understand the perspective. Whitey hasn’t done your peeps many favors since first vacationing in Massachusetts.


Generally speaking, if there's outsiders in your territory, they probably aren't there for milk and cookies...

They just want to take your sh*t...

Fat white guy shows up in a red suit on Dec 24th - 25th in my house? Probably going to put a couple holes in him... I don't care what the lore says... he's there to take my sh*t.
HockeyDad Offline
#39 Posted: Thu, Feb 24 2022, 11:35 AM EST
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Posts: 46,134
8trackdisco wrote:
So you are saying the election was stolen? Where were you on January 6th?


I was prolly in Napa drinking wine.
frankj1 Offline
#40 Posted: Thu, Feb 24 2022, 2:44 PM EST
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Posts: 44,221
DrMaddVibe wrote:
Turn off CNN already. You've been lied to and you're spreading them. READ what he ACTUALLY said.

BUCK: Mr. President, in the last 24 hours we know Russia has said that they are recognizing two breakaway regions of Ukraine, and now this White House is stating that this is an “invasion.” That’s a strong word. What went wrong here? What has the current occupant of the Oval Office done that he could have done differently?

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, what went wrong was a rigged election and what went wrong is a candidate that shouldn’t be there and a man that has no concept of what he’s doing. I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, “This is genius.” Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine. Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.

So, Putin is now saying, “It’s independent,” a large section of Ukraine. I said, “How smart is that?” And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. That’s strongest peace force… We could use that on our southern border. That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep peace all right. No, but think of it. Here’s a guy who’s very savvy… I know him very well. Very, very well.

By the way, this never would have happened with us. Had I been in office, not even thinkable. This would never have happened. But here’s a guy that says, you know, “I’m gonna declare a big portion of Ukraine independent,” he used the word “independent,” “and we’re gonna go out and we’re gonna go in and we’re gonna help keep peace.” You gotta say that’s pretty savvy. And you know what the response was from Biden? There was no response. They didn’t have one for that. No, it’s very sad. Very sad.

BUCK: Do you think the southern border is just gonna continue to deteriorate?

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Yeah.

https://www.clayandbuck.com/president-trump-with-cb-from-mar-a-lago/


For someone that claims he didn't vote for Biden...you in turn ushered King Bidas in. Everything the DNC tries to paint on Trump they actually do. Don't be a low rent IQ like the schlub on the other thread.

http://www.cigarbid.com/...-Putin-has-harmed-Russia

Do a little research on your own. I listened to the whole interview and it was great to hear a leader actually talk without softballs being lobbed at him from people that wouldn't follow up. Clear articulate sentences that Creepy Joe cannot form. Trump's sarcasm was there unfortunately you chose not to listen to any of it and instead picked up the talking points from the DNC presstitutes. Trump got NATO to pony up for once and got "Rocketman" to stop his nonsense. We all know he's China's little "pit bull" and uses him and North Korea at their whim. I'm pretty sure Japan was quite happy to not have missiles flying overhead and Taiwan not getting buzzed by CCP fighter jets daily under Trump, but hey Iron Joe is there to save the day!!!! We're all safe. Freedom and Democracy are still a thing and those evil despots well they all know better and stay in their own sandbox now with him at the helm!


Hey genius, the interview you posted has absolutely no connection to my comments, and he is the former prez anyway, so it doesn't much matter. As they used to say on c-bid about Hillary...she lost.

Also, I feel no need to explain this, but I will so you can fix your broken mind reader:
I absolutely never watch CNN or any cable entertainment-news-information crap networks...other than maybe as much as 45 minutes a week watching Fox. never as appointment TV though. Usually passing through to see what's on the ESPNs and pro sport Boston networks. Most tube time is sports related for me.

I do catch David Muir, I believe he is ABC, if the TV is on after dinner because he does follow one of the local channel's news broadcasts...actually, they are on before and after him so I have seen him quite a bit...but it's fluffy stuff, lot's of well chosen adjectives, too many teasers going into commercial breaks...I just don't enjoy that sort of news-for-ratings packaging.

Yet as much as I try to avoid exposure to the poison, some of their stuff finds me, often when you post it here, ironically.
That's if I even read those posts or watch the video links as I know they are mostly someone else's predeveloped opinions seeking proof rather than the other way around.

My math says you seem to be much more under the influence of news opinion shows than me.

I do watch two local news broadcasts. I read two newspapers.

Edit:
And I wrote in the post you quoted... "As old and lifeless as we know Biden to now be"... I have strong doubts that I would be quoted by nor considered for membership of his shill team.
RayR Offline
#41 Posted: Thu, Feb 24 2022, 3:28 PM EST
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Posts: 8,892

The world is full of crazy people.

The Truth About Ukraine


https://youtu.be/TRF5duauYhs
DrMaddVibe Offline
#42 Posted: Thu, Feb 24 2022, 3:31 PM EST
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Posts: 55,440
frankj1 wrote:
Hey genius, the interview you posted has absolutely no connection to my comments, and he is the former prez anyway, so it doesn't much matter.



Better go back and really read what you said and what I responded to.

That's all I have to say about that.
frankj1 Offline
#43 Posted: Thu, Feb 24 2022, 3:47 PM EST
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Posts: 44,221
still no direct connection to what you quoted from me.
But it's happened before so...
Sunoverbeach Offline
#44 Posted: Thu, Feb 24 2022, 5:34 PM EST
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Instead of warning pregnant women not to drink, I think female alcoholics ought to be told not to f**k.
- GC
tonygraz Offline
#45 Posted: Thu, Feb 24 2022, 5:52 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Better go back and really read what you said and what I responded to.

That's all I have to say about that.


Big mistake was even reading his tripe, Frankie.
DrafterX Offline
#46 Posted: Thu, Feb 24 2022, 6:24 PM EST
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Posts: 98,552
Look Mummy, there's an aeroplane up in da sky.... Mellow
Dg west deptford Offline
#47 Posted: Thu, Feb 24 2022, 6:41 PM EST
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Did you see the frightened ones?
Did you hear the falling bombs?
Did you ever wonder why we had to run for shelter when the
Promise of a brave new world unfurled beneath a clear blue
Sky?
ZRX1200 Offline
#48 Posted: Thu, Feb 24 2022, 6:46 PM EST
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I’ve had better conversations in the SLC airport bathroom with DMV and my wide stance than I’ve had with you 🤷‍♂️
rfenst Offline
#49 Posted: Thu, Feb 24 2022, 6:56 PM EST
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Posts: 39,330
Brewha wrote:
Try leaving the bathroom….

Herfing

LOL!
rfenst Offline
#50 Posted: Thu, Feb 24 2022, 7:11 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I’ve had better conversations in the SLC airport bathroom with DMV and my wide stance than I’ve had with you 🤷‍♂️

Who exactly are you referring to, Jammie???
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