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I will votE for R.F.K. JR. IN thE next primAry....
Mr. Jones Offline
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He's the best democratic candidate...

Joe Stranosa is too guilty of graft and bribery, dim-witted and stumbles a lot plus has hunter Biden as a lead anchor around his neck...no chance in hell for the stumbler...

The guys owns three well trained dogs...one is a German short-haired pointer...

He crosses several political constituentancies and parties...he has BALLS and says what he want to...

He no like the C.I.A. but ..I fog can overlook that...hell Rush Limbaugh praised him often..then is smart, dedicated and never gives up...the last trait I can relate to as In how I survived the FBI-SSG PERSECUTION that was dealt to me...in spades...
RayR Offline
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OK, you've got your reasons...he hates the CIA, but you can overlook that? You like the C.I.A.? Really? Confused

Well regardless, any reason to not vote for the extended Joe Stranosa Crime Family is a good reason.
The establishment DemoBolsheviks hate RFKJr.
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I'm intrigued by his candidacy.

I posted several articles here from him when it was wildly popular to act like Hitler Youth and "follow the Science". He has written many books and opened lawsuits into the criminal acts of Big Pharma.

Sadly, if one was voting for him...they're really voting for his VP selection.

Jus sayin'
RayR Offline
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There is no doubt RFKJr. crosses several political constituencies and parties, just his News Coverage page shows that even news and opinion sites like Lewrockwell.com, and The American Conservative that would have nothing good to say about Joe Stranosa, have some good things to say about RFKJr..

https://www.kennedy24.com/news-coverage
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Now if he only was factual and had a brain.
RayR Offline
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Speyside2 wrote:
Now if he only was factual and had a brain.


You mean as compared to Joe Stranosa? LOL

This is so much more to this epic podcast than RFK Jr and his enemies on the left. It's a MUST SEE.

Dave Rubin of “The Rubin Report” talks about Joe Rogan’s explosive interview with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. where he shares how Big Pharma is able to exploit the vaccine act and obscure the actual amount of vaccine injuries in their testing data; Rogan getting Dr. Peter Hotez to expose how health scientists avoid the importance of a healthy diet by focusing almost exclusively on medication and pharmaceuticals; Elon Musk’s response to Rogan trying to set up a debate between Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Dr. Peter Hotez; MSNBC’s Mehdi Hasan talking to Dr. Peter Hotez about why he refuses to have a vaccine debate with Robert F. Kennedy Jr.; Robert F. Kennedy Jr. describing his in-person confrontation with Dr. Fauci over vaccine protocols and what happened afterwards; Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s planned executive order to ban pharmaceutical advertising if elected president; why Rumble’s anti-censorship policies are more important than ever; and much more.

Watch Joe Rogan's Face When RFK Jr. Tells Him These Censored Facts | Direct Message | Rubin Report

https://rumble.com/v2v58y0-watch-joe-rogans-face-when-rfk-jr.-tells-him-these-censored-facts-direct-me.html
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What do you call it when a person is so establishment they don’t even realize they’re establishment?

RFK should run as a VP with a RepubliCANT.
Mr. Jones Offline
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Not a bad idea...Z MAN

KINDA SMAHHHT
DrMaddVibe Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
What do you call it when a person is so establishment they don’t even realize they’re establishment?

RFK should run as a VP with a RepubliCANT.



Actually Trump has already said he'd release ALL of the JFK stuff if elected.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/justice/trump-makes-pledge-jfk-files-release-everything
RayR Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Actually Trump has already said he'd release ALL of the JFK stuff if elected.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/justice/trump-makes-pledge-jfk-files-release-everything


I don't believe him; the deep state won't allow it and he knows it.

8trackdisco Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Actually Trump has already said he'd release ALL of the JFK stuff if elected.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/justice/trump-makes-pledge-jfk-files-release-everything


That would be great.
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Mr. Jones wrote:
He's the best democratic candidate...

Joe Stranosa is too guilty of graft and bribery, dim-witted and stumbles a lot plus has hunter Biden as a lead anchor around his neck...no chance in hell for the stumbler...

The guys owns three well trained dogs...one is a German short-haired pointer...

He crosses several political constituentancies and parties...he has BALLS and says what he want to...

He no like the C.I.A. but ..I fog can overlook that...hell Rush Limbaugh praised him often..then is smart, dedicated and never gives up...the last trait I can relate to as In how I survived the FBI-SSG PERSECUTION that was dealt to me...in spades...


Tomorrow (Wednesday) evening, @ 8:00 PM Central, Townhall with Robert F. Kennedy JR will be on NewsNation.
Interesting cat from the 15 minutes of an interview I heard earlier in the week. Sounds politically purple.

Both the kneejerk Red and Blue teams will of course dismiss him as a kook. The only liability he has from the jump is he has a voice condition, which isn't easy on the ears. And his voice would only further deteriorate as the campaign trail goes on.
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8trackdisco wrote:
Tomorrow (Wednesday) evening, @ 8:00 PM Central, Townhall with Robert F. Kennedy JR will be on NewsNation.
Interesting cat from the 15 minutes of an interview I heard earlier in the week. Sounds politically purple.

Both the kneejerk Red and Blue teams will of course dismiss him as a kook. The only liability he has from the jump is he has a voice condition, which isn't easy on the ears. And his voice would only further deteriorate as the campaign trail goes on.



I think if we can suffer through President Depends and the Pennsylvania Stump we can mutter through RFK jr.
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
I think if we can suffer through President Depends and the Pennsylvania Stump we can mutter through RFK jr.


Want to see and hear it through my own eyes and ears.
So far Red Coke and Blue Pepsi both have started to discredit him. That alone make me buy a ticket to learn what he has to say.
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8trackdisco wrote:
Want to see and hear it through my own eyes and ears.
So far Red Coke and Blue Pepsi both have started to discredit him. That alone make me buy a ticket to learn what he has to say.


Watched him with Maher. Even he was a bit surprised and tried to rein him in. Should be interesting. I remember stating how much Big Pharma made with Covid - 1984, some replied..."So?".

When dancing with taxpayer dollars while stripping Freedoms...it kinda matters. I totally saw my biggest question come to fruition before my very eyes. "How could a "free" nation fall to Hitler?". We lived through it, and nobody but the dead paid a price. It'll happen again. Quicker and faster because...nobody learned a damned thing.
Mr. Jones Offline
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Yepppp

He has a very rare voice disorder

Spasmodic disphonia
8trackdisco Offline
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How many of you watched the RFK Jr Town Hall in its entirety?

For those who did, what did you think?

Because of the speed of the world and the shortened attention spans of many, I’m guessing not many watched the whole thing. Am only 45 minutes through it on the dvr now.

Impossible to get what this guy is about in three or four minutes of sound bites on your local news.
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^ true.

I got halfway through the over 2 hours Bill Mahr did with him, I watched most of his interview on Jordan Peterson’s channel. It’s going to be an issue for him, he is a long format thoughtful guy and he’s been smeared with lies for years. I don’t like all of his politics but he’s certainly a more reasonable candidate than the 💩 and zombies they have been rolling out. I think we’ve gone two generations with young people NOT seeing what a reasonable candidate with reasonable house and senate can do. Problem is the left has been at war with our founding for a hundred years.
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Thanks for the insight, Z.

Bummed more people here didn’t watch this guy and share their thoughts here. But am I surprised? Nope.

Too many people unwilling or unable to look outside their coke and pepsi cans. Then again, aluminum cans don’t have windows, so…..
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I've only watched a little bit of RFK Jr.

Based on my limited exposure, I do like what I see and most of what he says. He doesn't seem to be a cookie cutter politician (which I think is good). I'm sure he knows how to play the game to some degree.

Is he going to be a real contender? Not too sure. Politics is a dirty business especially under the full federal spotlight and really especially if you don't tote the line for either of the major parties.
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8trackdisco wrote:
How many of you watched the RFK Jr Town Hall in its entirety?

For those who did, what did you think?

Because of the speed of the world and the shortened attention spans of many, I’m guessing not many watched the whole thing. Am only 45 minutes through it on the dvr now.

Impossible to get what this guy is about in three or four minutes of sound bites on your local news.



In about 45 minutes.........by then I was convinced he is just another blue blood liberal born with a silver spoon in his mouth.He has held positions so polar opposite to mine why would I give him a second look...........the military front and foremost followed by every energy source fossil fuels,renewable energy,coal,nuclear, hydro,wind.Not surprised he's one of the biggest environmentalists on the planet who blames the Koch Family for all the worlds ills plus outlining just how they have impoverished the world.Never heard nor read one thing about him mentioning George Soros,satan himself.Now lets throw in his foreign affairs opinions and I'm not sure Sleepy Joe may be one up on this clown.

Now onto more important things like who is really going to win the presidency in 2024.
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Not TRUMP...

"THE IM UNDER INDICTMENT IN 7 DIFFERENT TRIALS"...

WHAT A LOSER THE ORANGE MAN IS...
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His policies worked. America was much better off under his presidency than this fkn clown.

Turns out the treasonous traitor is actually Biden and his boy... actual proof, but what has the DOJ done? Nothing. They'd rather pursue BS impeachments with BS evidence on Trump but let Biden slide with real evidence against him.

Anyone who thinks we're better off under Biden is a moron.
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MACS wrote:
His policies worked. America was much better off under his presidency than this fkn clown.

Turns out the treasonous traitor is actually Biden and his boy... actual proof, but what has the DOJ done? Nothing. They'd rather pursue BS impeachments with BS evidence on Trump but let Biden slide with real evidence against him.

Anyone who thinks we're better off under Biden is a moron.


Anyone want to dogpile here..........looks like fun
Mr. Jones Offline
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I agree Biden is BAD...and immigration was way better under trump...

I am not even in the Biden is a good president category...
Obama and Biden tried to have me killed many times from 2012-2018...can't stand either of those to murderers and what they stand for...
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Mr. Jones wrote:
He no like the C.I.A. but ..I fog can overlook that...hell Rush Limbaugh praised him often..then is smart, dedicated and never gives up...the last trait I can relate to as In how I survived the FBI-SSG PERSECUTION that was dealt to me...in spades...



Jonesy, I am surprised....


What about the CIA assassin at the Jethro Tull concert?... And have we forgotten about that little incident at the Philadelphia Marriott?...

Happy 4th
Mr. Jones Offline
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Good memory ROBERT....

WERE YOU THAT 6' 7 " SILVER HAIRED agent at the concerts
south exit? Or the weasel sitting in front of me with the exact same brand and size suede coat we conversed about??? Your mother bought it in INDIA FOR YOU is what you said...
Or were you the BOW LEGGED WEIRDO FROM THE FULTON theater evening months before the Jethro Tull concert who attend both venues...or were the the fat short greasy black hair agent with the MAC-11 .380 CAL. sub machine gun under his jacket sweating bullets at the Fulton theatre in august???
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all of the above.
Mr. Jones Offline
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???
BWUHAHAHA!!

Then he is a master of diguise!!

The only thing I remember from the Marriott " incident" is finally one of you FBI-SSG IDIOTS REALIZED AND VERBALLY STATED...

" WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THE WRONG GUY....THIS ENTIRE TIME..."

NO SH#T SHERLOCK....

I DID YOUR JOBS WAY TOO MANY TIMES...I HAD TO FORCE FEED YOU DUMB f##kers way to much info and leads...
Like " why not investigate the two ex-dairy owners ,...the two daves...chk their safe deposit boxes and HUTS"...
YOU FINALLY DID...

HENCE MR MARRIOTTS BRUNCH MANS STATEMENT...
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Mr. Jones wrote:

Obama and Biden tried to have me killed many times from 2012-2018...can't stand either of those to murderers and what they stand for...


ThEy mUst HavE kNOwn you SAved HiLlAry. YOU bLAme tHem?
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8trackdisco wrote:
ThEy mUst HavE kNOwn you SAved HiLlAry. YOU bLAme tHem?


It was Bill who green lighted him.
Mr. Jones Offline
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LOL

But n0t...it's hard looking over your shoulder
ALL THE DAYS OF YOUR MENIAL EXISTENCE...
rfenst Offline
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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. suggests covid was designed to spare Jews, Chinese people



WAPO
Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. advanced a dangerous conspiracy theory this week that the coronavirus could have been a bioweapon “deliberately targeted” to spare Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese people while disproportionately attacking White and Black people, according to a video of the remarks published Saturday by the New York Post.

“There is an argument that it is ethnically targeted. Covid-19 attacks certain races disproportionately,” Kennedy said during a dinner on New York’s Upper East Side on Tuesday evening. “Covid-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and Black people. The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese.”

His remarks at the gathering — a dinner party attended by members of the media and Kennedy’s campaign manager at Tony’s Di Napoli on East 63rd Street — amplify racist and antisemitic tropes, including theories that blame Jews for the spread of the coronavirus to expand influence and financial gain, according to research by the Anti-Defamation League.


An Anti-Defamation League spokesperson, Jake Hyman, told The Washington Post on Saturday that Kennedy’s claim that the coronavirus may have been manipulated to pose less risk to Jews was a particularly hazardous form of conspiracy theory — one the group had yet to encounter.

“The claim that covid-19 was a bioweapon created by the Chinese or Jews to attack Caucasians and Black people is deeply offensive and feeds into Sinophobic and antisemitic conspiracy theories,” Hyman said.

Jane Shim, the director of the Stop Asian Hate Project, an initiative of the Asian American Legal Defense and Education Fund, described Kennedy’s remarks as “irresponsible, hateful comments,” likening his words to the “dangerous rhetoric” of President Donald Trump, who has repeatedly referred to covid-19 as “the China virus” and previously called it the “kung flu.”

“Antisemitism and anti-Chinese, anti-Asian sentiment are as old as the country itself. Even today, it’s an easy way to score points with the same nativist ideologues who manufacture conspiracy theories like the one [Kennedy] is now promoting,” Shim told The Post on Saturday.

“While RFK spitballs his baseless claims, leaning into them when beneficial and distancing himself when harmful to his campaign, Asian Americans will be harmed,” Shim added.

After the New York Post published video from the dinner, Kennedy, 69, said in a lengthy tweet that he “never, ever” suggested that the coronavirus was targeted to spare Jews. He also said that the dinner was off the record, a claim disputed to the New York Post by the event organizer, columnist Doug Dechert.


Kennedy added in his tweet that he “never implied that the ethnic effect was deliberately engineered,” though at the dinner, he floated that possibility directly, according to the video.

“We don’t know that it was deliberately targeted [like] that or not, but there are papers out there that show the racial and ethnic differential,” Kennedy said at the dinner, suggesting that multiple countries, including the United States and China, are developing ethnic bioweapons to “target people by race.”

A Kennedy campaign spokesperson did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

For more than three years, scientists and lawmakers from both parties have debated the origins of the virus. Many virologists and evolutionary biologists believe the virus probably spread to humans from a Wuhan, China, market where wild animals were sold and butchered. Others have argued that the virus could have accidentally made it out of a lab where researchers were studying coronaviruses. In May 2021, Biden ordered U.S. intelligence agencies to examine the virus’s origins. The agencies did not reach a consensus, though most have stated that the natural origins scenario is more likely. Intelligence agencies do agree, however, that the virus was not developed as a bioweapon.

Kennedy, the son of the late senator Robert F. Kennedy and the nephew of former president John F. Kennedy, has gained attention by spreading conspiracy theories about the pandemic, Anthony S. Fauci and the AIDS epidemic. He has compared mask mandates and vaccination efforts to the Holocaust.

“Even in Hitler’s Germany, you could cross the Alps into Switzerland. You could hide in an attic like Anne Frank did,” Kennedy said during a protest last year against vaccine mandates. (He later apologized for the remark, saying he meant to “show the perils from new technologies of control.”)

Twelve weeks into his campaign to unseat President Biden in the Democratic primary, some polls show him with as much as 20 percent of support among primary voters.
RayR Offline
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^ This sounds like just another WAPO hit piece.
rfenst Offline
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RayR wrote:
^ This sounds like just another WAPO hit piece.

Once again, you comment ignorantly without reading: New York Post published a video of the speech. Tough chit if HIS OWN WORDS get used against him by anyone.
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Grab em in the P was off the record and they didn’t care.

Press ain’t what it used to be when they held up their responsibilities that they’re granted special privileges for.
RayR Offline
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rfenst wrote:
Once again, you comment ignorantly without reading: New York Post published a video of the speech. Tough chit if HIS OWN WORDS get used against him by anyone.


So what? If he says there are "papers out there that show the racial and ethnic differential" as he said, what's your problem? Is such talk verboten? You hate free speech? If the data in the papers showed it, shouldn't they go after and question the studies instead of the man who mentioned their existence?

The article starts right out of the gate hit piece style in the first sentence saying "Robert F. Kennedy Jr. advanced a dangerous conspiracy theory" I've heard that LEFTIES say anything that questions the official narrative of the progressive regime is a "dangerous conspiracy theory" and should be dismissed out of hand as irresponsible, and bonkers.

The LEFTY attack machine goes DemoBolshevik apoplectic making bizarre claims that the man is antisemitic and racist, which makes no sense at all. WTF!
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RayR wrote:
So what? If he says there are "papers out there that show the racial and ethnic differential" as he said, what's your problem? Is such talk verboten? You hate free speech? If the data in the papers showed it, shouldn't they go after and question the studies instead of the man who mentioned their existence?

The article starts right out of the gate hit piece style in the first sentence saying "Robert F. Kennedy Jr. advanced a dangerous conspiracy theory" I've heard that LEFTIES say anything that questions the official narrative of the progressive regime is a "dangerous conspiracy theory" and should be dismissed out of hand as irresponsible, and bonkers.

The LEFTY attack machine goes DemoBolshevik apoplectic making bizarre claims that the man is antisemitic and racist, which makes no sense at all. WTF!


If it takes that many words to refute what he has simply stated/said/did/done in the past..

You are just unable to see the danger to minorities caused by talk like that- suggesting Covid was designed to give Jews (and Chinese) an economic advantage.

It's an old, tiring trope, but then again you already know that- having had so many years of practice, I am sure.
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rfenst wrote:
If it takes that many words to refute what he has simply stated/said/did/done in the past..

You are just unable to see the danger to minorities caused by talk like that- suggesting Covid was designed to give Jews (and Chinese) an economic advantage.

It's an old, tiring trope, but then again you already know that- having had so many years of practice, I am sure.


I didn't see anywhere where Kennedy said the WUHAN Virus was designed to give the Chinese and Jews an economic advantage. That must have been something you read between the lines in your legal weasel mind just like that antisemitic and racist schtick.
You better go hide because I'm sure you're feeling threatened as a minority by his wurds.

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Anyone have some quotes where RFKjr is racist or antisemitic?

Need it for a friend.
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I'm sure he said something about 20-30 yrs back when he was drunk in an interview...

Other than that...

...he has my vote compared to BIDEN IN THE SECRET OCCIDENTAL GRILLE BASEMENT DINING ROOM GREENLIGHTING MR. JONES WITH OBAMMY AND COMEY WHILST EATING SURF AND TURF AND 100 YR OLD VSOP REMY MARTIN COGNAC AND DOING PHARM BLOW...

AND NO WAY IM VOTING FOR TRUMP AGAIN...

I LIKE LIZ CHENEY'S RECENT statement at some political conference...she said " WE KEEP ELECTING IDIOTS FOR PRESIDENT "....( AND I SAY " PLUS MORONS FOR VICE PRESIDENT " )
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Now the poor "horse talker" is getting canceled by his own family? The Israelis?, the Hebrew establishment, and the chiree just grin and laugh ( I think they find it very ironic, as do I)....

If you design a virus?
Why not tweek it just a tad to be way more lethal in certain ethnic categories, if our Era science can even achieve that goal?
I have no idea at all.
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Mr. Jones wrote:
If you design a virus?
Why not tweek it just a tad to be way more lethal in certain ethnic categories, if our Era science can even achieve that goal?
I have no idea at all.



Not bought into the idea, however seeing as how sinister Tony Fauci is...why would it surprise me if it came to light that the labs (all over the world people) were dialing in their own "brew".

Get your boosters and have ze papiers when we ask for them! Heil Biden!
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RayR wrote:
I didn't see anywhere where Kennedy said the WUHAN Virus was designed to give the Chinese and Jews an economic advantage. That must have been something you read between the lines in your legal weasel mind just like that antisemitic and racist schtick.
You better go hide because I'm sure you're feeling threatened as a minority by his wurds.



I was wrong on the Chinese economic adantage allegation.

But, you need to read this again:

"Robert F. Kennedy Jr. advanced a dangerous conspiracy theory this week that the coronavirus could have been a bioweapon “deliberately targeted” to spare Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese people [/h]while disproportionately attacking White and Black people"....

"His remarks at the gathering... amplify racist and antisemitic tropes, including theories that blame Jews for the spread of the coronavirus to expand influence and financial gain...."
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rfenst wrote:
I was wrong on the Chinese economic adantage allegation.

But, you need to read this again:

"Robert F. Kennedy Jr. advanced a dangerous conspiracy theory this week that the coronavirus could have been a bioweapon “deliberately targeted” to spare Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese people [/h]while disproportionately attacking White and Black people"....

"His remarks at the gathering... amplify racist and antisemitic tropes, including theories that blame Jews for the spread of the coronavirus to expand influence and financial gain...."


Sorry Robert. I don’t connect the dots. Are we not allowed to discuss certain issues? It seems to me he says that there is evidence of. To me that’s not the same as him saying something is definitive. Besides I think it’s a very bad thing when we as a society say we can’t discuss certain topics because it may offend this group or that one.
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rfenst wrote:
I was wrong on the Chinese economic adantage allegation.

But, you need to read this again:

"Robert F. Kennedy Jr. advanced a dangerous conspiracy theory this week that the coronavirus could have been a bioweapon “deliberately targeted” to spare Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese people [/h]while disproportionately attacking White and Black people"....

"His remarks at the gathering... amplify racist and antisemitic tropes, including theories that blame Jews for the spread of the coronavirus to expand influence and financial gain...."


I already went over the hit-piece propaganda words in #37.
Accusations by LEFTY activists that RFK Jr. "advanced a dangerous conspiracy theory" and amplified "racist and antisemitic tropes" don't make it so. They make false associations with RFK Jr. and some unnamed conspiracy theorists. If there is any smidgen of truth, they'll stretch it totally out of proportion to where there is no truth at all, they weaponize words to use against their victim, it's their modus operandi.




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What really should be discussed is how Covid-19 affected transgenders and their gender transitioning journeys.

Any other discussions should basically be a misdemeanor charge.
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Abrignac wrote:
Sorry Robert. I don’t connect the dots. Are we not allowed to discuss certain issues? It seems to me he says that there is evidence of. To me that’s not the same as him saying something is definitive. Besides I think it’s a very bad thing when we as a society say we can’t discuss certain topics because it may offend this group or that one.

I do not believe in squelching free speech, especially political speech, but I am concerned with highly likely prejudicial/dangerous comments like that- about any group- when there is no proof given. "There is a study" or the like... doesn't cut it. Maybe there is, maybe there isn't. But, a comment like that should be held up to intellectual scrutiny hard and fast.

There is also a limit to free speech (hate speech being one) that has not been reached here yet, but which is of great concern given Kennedy's long history of bigoted comments.

If people want to believe Ashkenazi Jews were “deliberately targeted” to be spared, that's fine- even if they are wrong. But, that is a dangerous accusation in society by a popular candidate during turbulent times.

Antisemitism and racial hatred and crimes against others has increased markedly over the last several years. It doesn't take much to extrapolate from his words that Jews might have had something to do with the covid virus' creation. There are too many rich examples in history of what the consequences from language like that might be.

Words can have serious consequences. I am just pointing out the detail of what he said. Nothing more. Certainly no squelching under the circumstances.

Nevertheless, he needs to be call out on this kind of crap if he wants to be President.
RayR Offline
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"Hate Speech" has no meaning except in so far as it signifies something not desirable by LEFTY.
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RayR wrote:
I already went over the hit-piece propaganda words in #37.
Accusations by LEFTY activists that RFK Jr. "advanced a dangerous conspiracy theory" and amplified "racist and antisemitic tropes" don't make it so. They make false associations with RFK Jr. and some unnamed conspiracy theorists. If there is any smidgen of truth, they'll stretch it totally out of proportion to where there is no truth at all, they weaponize words to use against their victim, it's their modus operandi.

Read the article. It's all on video.
He brought it up. He said what he said.
This is far from his first time to have been a mistake or simply misspeaking.
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