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I will votE for R.F.K. JR. IN thE next primAry....
HockeyDad Offline
#51 Posted:
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At a minimum it would qualify as wrongthink and qualify for complete suppression by Silicon Valley tech.
Abrignac Offline
#52 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
I do not believe in squelching free speech, especially political speech, but I am concerned with highly likely prejudicial/dangerous comments like that- about any group- when there is no proof given. "There is a study" or the like... doesn't cut it. Maybe there is, maybe there isn't. But, a comment like that should be held up to intellectual scrutiny hard and fast.

There is also a limit to free speech (hate speech being one) that has not been reached here yet, but which is of great concern given Kennedy's long history of bigoted comments.

If people want to believe Ashkenazi Jews were “deliberately targeted” to be spared, that's fine- even if they are wrong. But, that is a dangerous accusation in society by a popular candidate during turbulent times.

Antisemitism and racial hatred and crimes against others has increased markedly over the last several years. It doesn't take much to extrapolate from his words that Jews might have had something to do with the covid virus' creation. There are too many rich examples in history of what the consequences from language like that might be.

Words can have serious consequences. I am just pointing out the detail of what he said. Nothing more. Certainly no squelching under the circumstances.

Nevertheless, he needs to be call out on this kind of crap if he wants to be President.


My comment was made at face value. I really don’t know much about his latest comments. He’s a Kennedy so in my book he’s not someone I’d normally support given his family’s past and his guilt by association.

Be that as it may, I on the other hand welcome anything he says. I’m much more in favor of letting a$$holes speak their mind that way he have a clearer picture of who they really are.

As far as hate speech is concerned, oh well. Who gets to decide what is hate and what is not? Sorry but, we need to learn to toughen up and quit getting butt hurt by what every Tom,****** or Hairy says. In the grand scheme of things we have much bigger fish to fry.
RayR Offline
#53 Posted:
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Now let's get to some real Antisemitism and Racial Hatred. The DemoBolsheviks eat one of their own at this year's lefty circle jerk called Netroots Nation. Allegedly the chair of Congressional Progressive Caucus was openly engaging in hate speech at a public gathering that was not currently approved by the DNC and she had to be denounced and shunned for speaking out loud something they all probably think.


Democrats denounce Rep. Pramila Jayapal calling Israel a ‘racist state’

By Ryan King
July 17, 2023

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Leading House Democrats distanced themselves Monday from top progressive Rep. Pramila Jayapal’s characterization of Israel as a “racist state” over the weekend as official Washington prepares for a visit by the Jewish state’s president, Isaac Herzog.

Jayapal (D-Wash.), who chairs the Congressional Progressive Caucus, made the controversial retort while seeking to assuage protesters at the progressive Netroots Nation conference on Saturday. She later walked the comment back, but party leaders quickly tried to make clear she didn’t speak for them.

“Israel is not a racist state,” House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY), Minority Whip Katherine Clark (D-Mass.) and Caucus Chair Pete Aguilar (D-Calif.) said in a joint statement.

“As a Jewish and Democratic nation, Israel was founded 75 years ago on the principle of complete equality of social and political rights for all of its citizens irrespective of religion, race or sex, as codified in its Declaration of Independence.”

More...

https://nypost.com/2023/07/17/democrats-denounce-rep-jayapals-calling-israel-a-racist-state/
rfenst Offline
#54 Posted:
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Abrignac wrote:
MAs far as hate speech is concerned, oh well. Who gets to decide what is hate and what is not? Sorry but, we need to learn to toughen up and quit getting butt hurt by what every Tom,****** or Hairy says. In the grand scheme of things we have much bigger fish to fry.


No.

Hate Speech is not a mere insult (with respect to which I agree with you). Instead, it is speech that by it's very utterance causes harm. What Kennedy said does that.

I will await someone to prove the truth of what he said about how the virus was designed to specifically protect Jews. My common sense over-rules that b.s.
Speyside2 Offline
#55 Posted:
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He will be inconsequential in 2024. He is bombastic, and a liar. Truth is not important to him. This is shaking out to be Biden and Trump 2. By backing Trump no matter what the Republicans are making a massive strategic mistake. The door has been opened for a blue tide. The Democrats may end up with the House, the Senate with a super majority, and the presidency. If this happens SCOTUS members could be impeached and convicted. None of the above is good for our country. The game within the game really has very little to do with Trump, as he is unelectable.
HockeyDad Offline
#56 Posted:
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Speyside2 wrote:
He will be inconsequential in 2024. He is bombastic, and a liar. Truth is not important to him. This is shaking out to be Biden and Trump 2. By backing Trump no matter what the Republicans are making a massive strategic mistake. The door has been opened for a blue tide. The Democrats may end up with the House, the Senate with a super majority, and the presidency. If this happens SCOTUS members could be impeached and convicted. None of the above is good for our country. The game within the game really has very little to do with Trump, as he is unelectable.


Blue Tide is the ultimate dream. California at the national level followed by the complete transformation of the nation.
ZRX1200 Offline
#57 Posted:
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Spey isn’t gonna like the next election.
RayR Offline
#58 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Spey isn’t gonna like the next election.


Or will he? Think
You never know with Spey.
Mr. Jones Offline
#59 Posted:
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Spey spey hey hey...
RayR Offline
#60 Posted:
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Character assassination, accusations of racism and not following the science...that's par for the course for LEFTY arguments.

'Defamations': Dems pile on RFK Jr. as racist, antisemite after censorship hearing disinvite fails

Democratic challenger to President Biden says he was citing Cleveland Clinic study in recent controversy over "ethnically targeted" virus. "You can't make this stuff up," GOP member says of Democratic tactics.

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Congressional Democrats have attempted to bury Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in an avalanche of racism and pseudoscience allegations concerning his statements about COVID-19 — after unsuccessfully trying to get him disinvited before – and during – Thursday's hearing of the House Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of Federal Government.

Their Republican colleagues expressed glee at the optics of Democrats seemingly trying to censor a repeat victim of government-tinged censorship — a "Disinformation Dozen" member challenging President Biden for the 2024 Democratic nomination — at a hearing on that very issue.

"You can't make this stuff up," Rep. Mike Johnson (R-La.) said, and Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) marveled at what he called the "irony and cognitive dissonance" of the subcommittee minority.

Democrats tried a similar discrediting tactic at a COVID origins hearing this year against former New York Times science reporter Nicholas Wade, who helped verify the legitimacy of the lab-leak theory, for his 2014 book on the "genetic basis of race."

More...

https://justthenews.com/government/congress/defamations-dems-pile-rfk-jr-racist-antisemite-after-censorship-hearing
RayR Offline
#61 Posted:
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So, this clearly delusional guy sits in his car filming himself for Instagram and says Biden is "in the middle of becoming the greatest progressive president we've ever had". Where I come from, saying "greatest progressive president" translates to "greatest worst president", but I digress.
The boy appears to have no original thoughts of his own as he regurgitates Bidenomics rhetoric. Maybe this is one oi those AI-generated fake lizard people I've heard about.🦎 Think

JFK’s Grandson Attacks RFK Jr. by Reading DNC Talking Points From His Car – The Responses Are Brutal (VIDEO)

By Cristina Laila Jul. 21, 2023 7:35 pm

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JFK’s grandson Jack Schlossberg blasted RFK Jr. in a video posted to Instagram – and he got destroyed in the comment section.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has been under heavy attack from the mainstream media and his own family since he announced a 2024 White House bid.

Schlossberg, Caroline Kennedy’s son, posted a video to Instagram praising Joe Biden while attacking his cousin, RFK Jr.

Schlossberg appeared to be reading DNC talking points while he was sitting in his car recording the video.

Nobody is this excited about a Joe Biden presidency.

“Under Biden, we’ve added 13 million jobs, unemployment is at its lowest in 60 years. Biden passed the largest investment in infrastructure since the New Deal and the largest investment in green energy ever. He’s appointed more federal judges than any president since my grandfather. He ended our longest war. He ended the Covid pandemic, and he ended Donald Trump. These are the issues that matter. And if my cousin, Bobby Kennedy Jr., cared about any of them, he would support Joe Biden too,” Schlossberg said.

Schlossberg attacked RFK Jr.

“Instead, he’s trading in on Camelot, celebrity conspiracy theories and conflict for personal gain and fame,” Schlossberg said about RFK. “I’ve listened to him. I know him. I have no idea why anyone thinks he should be president. What I do know is his candidacy is an embarrassment. Let’s not be distracted again by somebody’s vanity project. I’m excited to vote for Joe Biden in my state’s primary, and again in the general election. And I hope you will too.”

More... (With video)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/07/jfks-grandson-attacks-rfk-jr-reading-dnc-talking/




RayR Offline
#62 Posted:
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Censoring, shutting down debate, accusing your opponent of being antisemitic, racist or whatever else they can pull out of their azz. That's just part of what the evil Jacobin Left does.


DNC Leadership Tries to Censor RFK, Jr. as He Testifies at Congressional Hearing on Censorship.

LOUIS CONTE
JUL 21, 2023

“The First Amendment was not written for easy speech. It was written for the speech that nobody likes you for.” - RFK, Jr.

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Today’s news round up will focus solely on the House of Representatives Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government.

It was a day filled with drama, debate, vitriol, irony and, in the end, moral courage.

It was, I believe, a historic day.

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. stood tall as his own party attacked him for defending the First Amendment and the principles, he knows the Democratic Party stands for.

Before the hearing on censorship started, the Democrats in the House tried to censor Kennedy. Over one hundred Congressional Democrats signed a letter to House Speaker Dennis McCarthy calling on him to pull Kennedy from the hearing RFK Jr has ‘no business’ testifying in Congress on government censorship, Democrats say | Fox News.

McCarthy refused and the hearing went forward.

More...

https://thekennedybeacon.substack.com/p/dnc-leadership-tries-to-censor-rfk
rfenst Offline
#63 Posted:
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https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/lawrence-rfk-jr-s-lies-as-house-gop-witness-have-a-trumpian-echo-188958789666

I say he has accomplished a lot (good and bad) given his past...



RayR Offline
#64 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/lawrence-rfk-jr-s-lies-as-house-gop-witness-have-a-trumpian-echo-188958789666

I say he has accomplished a lot (good and bad) given his past...


You lost me when you posted that sanctimonious jerk Lawrence O’Donnell from that insane asylum called MSNBC.

He's so sanctimonious that he said on TV back in 2010 "I am not a progressive. I am not a liberal who is so afraid of the word that I had to change my name to progressive. Liberals amuse me. I am a socialist. I live to the extreme left, the extreme left of you mere liberals," I remember that his rare honesty got quite a few giggles.

Commies always think they are morally superior to those spineless Left O' Centers. LOL
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RFK Jr. Rips Into House Democrats Over ‘Hypocrisy’ After They Tried To Shut Down His House Testimony

By Leif Le Mahieu, Jul 22, 2023, DailyWire.com

Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. ripped into House Democrats over their “hypocrisy” on anti-Semitism in their attempts to shut him down during his testimony during a House hearing this week on censorship.

In a Twitter thread on Saturday, Kennedy went after Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) over her support of Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY). Schultz attacked Kennedy on Thursday during a Republican-led censorship hearing.

During the hearing, Schultz moved to shift the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government hearing to executive session “because Mr. Kennedy has repeatedly made despicable anti-Semitic and anti-Asian comments as recently as last week.”

Schultz cited, “among many other things,” comments Kennedy recently made about COVID-19, which the candidate says have been misconstrued.

“COVID-19, there is an argument that it is ethnically targeted. COVID-19 attacks certain races disproportionately,” Kennedy said, according to The New York Post. “COVID-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and black people. The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese.”

“Ok. Let’s heap a few more layers of irony on the mountain of paradox and hypocrisy that Congressional Democrats created Thursday in their attempt to censor me from speaking at the censorship hearings,” Kennedy began in his Twitter thread.

“Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz who led the pitchfork brigade by trying to muzzle me with false accusations of racism and antisemitism, in 2016 lost her post running the DNC when leaked documents revealed that her DNC staffers were routinely and cynically using anti-Semitism to take down [Sen. Bernie Sanders],” he added.

Kennedy then shifted his attack to hitting Schultz over comments made by Omar and Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-MI).

“[Wasserman Schultz] has not only refused to condemn the overt anti-Semitic rhetoric of [Tlaib] and Ilhan Omar, but she supported Omar’s appointment to the Foreign Relations Committee despite Omar’s advocacy of a boycott of Israel,” he tweeted. “Omar used that platform to issue regular libels against Israel and Jews that include references to Jews and their ‘Benjamins.

Kennedy also criticized Schultz for “loyally” defending far-Left House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY), who “once invited his uncle Leonard Jeffries to speak at CUNY, a platform he used to explain that the Jewish community was ‘pro-Nazi.’”

According to The New York Post, Jeffries invited his uncle, who has a history of making disparaging comments toward both Jews and white people, to speak at Binghamton University (which is a SUNY school).

“I won’t be lectured to about antisemitism from Democratic lawmakers like Wasserman Schultz who voted to give Iran $150b while that regime promises a new Holocaust against the Jews. #Kennedy24,” he concluded.

Kennedy has polled as high as 19% among Democrat presidential primary voters, and has been critical of Big Tech censorship on topics related to the COVID vaccine.
RayR Offline
#66 Posted:
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I'm not a Democrat or a follow traveler of RFK Jr. He is after all a self-described "New Deal Democrat" and I'm far from that.
What I like about the guy is he is out there, willing to talk with anybody that is not like himself, including conservatives, libertarians and anarchists, and carries on a civil conversation with all.

He is therefore everything the Demo-Bolsheviks hate and a target for their ad hominem attacks.
RayR Offline
#67 Posted:
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This is an excellent substack essay by Barry Brownstein that was linked to from LRC.
There is even a narrated video version embellished with pictures for those that don't read words too good.

Totalitarianism Begins With Censorship

Principles of what a free society means are being redefined by collectivists.

BARRY BROWNSTEIN
JUL 26, 2023

War is Peace

Freedom is Slavery

Ignorance is Strength

— George Orwell, 1984

Quote:
The following essay was initially published at the American Institute for Economic Research. First, a brief update.

As you will read, medical ethicist Arthur Caplan argued in 2021 that coercing vaccinations is a “liberty inducer.”

Recently, Caplan said this about RFK Jr.’s views on vaccines: “I knew he was basically talking out of his rear end.”

Caplan’s message was not subtle. He was taking part in an absurd smear to convince voters that they shouldn’t consider RFK Jr.’s ideas. Democratic party censors and their media allies want you to believe RFK, Jr. is ignorant, dangerous, “Real F—ing [K]razy,” antisemitic and racist. He is disgusting; if you support him, you are disgusting. NPR, CNN, the N.Y. Times, and virtually all of the legacy media have given you your marching orders. Get with the program. Don’t listen to RFK, Jr.

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In 1943, when Hans and Sophie Scholl handed out flyers at their university in Munich explaining that the war on the eastern front was not going well, they were stating a fact that everyone knew to be true. The Nazis considered this disinformation and executed them.

Over the last 2 years, when Robert Kennedy, Jr. explained that Covid shots were poorly tested, do not stop transmission, and come with horrendous side effects he was stating a fact that everyone knew to be true. The Biden administration considered this disinformation and ordered social media to deplatform him.

—Toby Rogers


Toby might be overstating his case; everybody doesn’t know. Many who get their news from NPR and CNN don’t know the facts and don’t want to know. Many are sadly open to the message: Good citizens, don’t consider questions of war and peace, don’t question Biden’s lucidity or corruption, don’t question unsustainable budgets, Big Pharma, the poisoning of our food and land. Good citizens believe what they are told.

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What we're seeing today is what I call turnkey totalitarianism. They are putting in place all of these technological mechanisms for control we've never seen before. It's been the ambition of every totalitarian state from the beginning of mankind to control every aspect of behavior, of conduct, of thought, and to obliterate dissent.

—RFK Jr.


RFK Jr. is right. The first order of business of totalitarians is censorship, so their anti-freedom program goes unchallenged. And as they censor, they tell you it is for the common good.

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A program of widespread censorship is the creation and work of a dictator. By way of censorship, the fledgling dictator not only silences his critics, but also prevents his dictatorial powers, privileges, and activities from being detected and reported. Thus, censorship is the means by which an aspiring dictator becomes a complete dictator.

—JS Leake


It’s time to reconsider the totalitarian roots of “experts” and collectivist politicians.

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https://mindsetshifts.substack.com/p/totalitarianism-begins-with-censorship
rfenst Offline
#68 Posted:
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Oh, snap!
What was the Hearing SUPPOSED to be about?
What is Kennedy's particular expertise or special knowledge warranting a committee hearing as him as a special guest?
I want to testify before a congressional committee and be on TV too!
Mr. Jones Offline
#69 Posted:
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The COVID VACCINE IS A L.I.E.

ON STEROIDS...

IT DON'T PROTECT YOU FROM NUTTIN' !!!!

BUT IT GAVE ME PERMANENT FOOT NEUROPATHY
FOR SURE....

F**K PFIZER !!!

F*CK JOE BIDEN !!!!

F*CK THAT FAUCCI A-HOLE AND THE LYING HORSE HE RODE IN ON !!!

F*CK DONALD TRUMP AND HIS OPERATION
"WARP SPEED" VACCINE OF DEATH AND NEW DISEASES OR DEATH THAT IT GIVES EVERYONE WHO TOOK IT !!!!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#70 Posted:
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Mr. Jones wrote:
The COVID VACCINE IS A L.I.E.

ON STEROIDS...

IT DON'T PROTECT YOU FROM NUTTIN' !!!!

BUT IT GAVE ME PERMANENT FOOT NEUROPATHY
FOR SURE....

F**K PFIZER !!!

F*CK JOE BIDEN !!!!

F*CK THAT FAUCCI A-HOLE AND THE LYING HORSE HE RODE IN ON !!!

F*CK DONALD TRUMP AND HIS OPERATION
"WARP SPEED" VACCINE OF DEATH AND NEW DISEASES OR DEATH THAT IT GIVES EVERYONE WHO TOOK IT !!!!



WHAT???

Where were you in 2020???
Mr. Jones Offline
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I was in Lancaster, Pa...
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https://youtu.be/HN5A6lhjV0c?si=jItZUQfOFg7Kgnql
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