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Looking to gain understand your priorities and how you’d allocate 10 billion dollars with the current issues facing congress. Spend the whole or any part of it as you see fit within the framework below. You can also choose to spend none of it and save the government a teaspoon of deficit.

Fortifying the Border:
Aid for Israel:
Aid for Ukraine:
Aid for Taiwan:
Eff ‘em all, save the money:

Endlessly curious.

And, they were from Texas, NOT Florida.

Border
Israel
Ukraine

($10 billion isn't enough, IMO)

Understand your frustration, although I’m gently prodding you to answer the question.

Example…. Border 2 billion, Ukraine 5 billion, Israel 1 billion etc.

If you don’t answer the question, I might have to start calling you…. Desantis

All 10 billion to Israel? No Ukraine, Taiwan or border?

Not judging your answer, instead, requesting a clarification.

Thanks KOTC.

None for Israel or Ukraine, or for the war that's about to start between the British and Venezuela

For you pro war guys under 60, join up, pick a war and live your beliefs. Be sure to send your sons and daughters as well. Im not just trolling you guys either. Pick your war and be all you can be.

I actually watch the footage. Decapitation: https://www.bitchute.com/video/qHjPrPjMNPVs/ Soldiers stomach blown out by drone: https://www.bitchute.com/video/cCws1psWVVsx/

I could post tons of these. One of the channels I follow on Bitchute is "December 1991" You can click his channel to see more footage from the links above.

Ukraine $0.
Israel $0

You still have 10 billion left to divvy up between the border and returning money to the treasury.

^^

It would be a 10 billion dollar loan from a private central bank at usury interest rates. A loan isn't the same as having 10 billion cash.

It would take many moves and much restructuring for USA INC to actually have the money.

AWESOME, I distant myself from folks like Desantis, our Family in Florida are keeping me in the loop of Florida Politics as it unfolds and it has the Mrs and I eying another State for Retirement... Next year we're touring the West and south west...

Who cares what you think….

Thats a Great way to introduce yourself to the members on the Forum!!!

Welcome to CBid forums where discussions are moderate to to interesting and the feature at the top allows you to read and pass if you can't bring anything to the Table...

Understanding the others weren’t getting anything. You meant to say you would spend the whole 10 billion on Israel. Got it.

Or being Desantis Light by not answering the questions and putting the effort into one of their pre programmed talking points. A symptom of why things are going to have to get worse yet before they could (possibly) be made better.

Wasn’t part of the question. Try to focus.

Understandable 8, In short, It's basically a policy these politicians have adopted across this land, Illinois OMA Councilor at the attorney generals office, for the state of Illinois explained to me You have a right to address your concerns, but under the OMA Act, they do not have to answer to your concerns? WOW Ok then why address them to deaf ears? and the law covers them with this? SO I adopted this course of action and limited speech to 2 minutes floor time for myself not others. I write out these violations that need to be corrected and have been presenting them to the council chambers "For the Record" since February of this year, once I've addressed them with no action on their part, I've emailed the same to the AG's councilor and another Assistant AG for Illinois keeping them (paper trail) in the loop. I have since been called an Arsehole, war monger, whistleblower drunk'n Hot Head... I let the Chit roll off my back.. the Facts are their deal with them...

I've been seeing and hearing Desantis run is fizzled out.. he's losing his Repub. Base to Hailey...

Border- 5
Israel and Ukraine- 2-3 each totaling 5.

Fortifying the Border:

This was not how ABC News portrayed it the other night on National News, they pointed out it was one of Desatas Blunders for the tax payers from Florida.. and left it open for one to decide...

Got it. Thank you Robert

9 billion for the border, another billion wasted. Wish I was surprised.

Thank you, Brother.

Russ, great thread.
It flushes out a lot of differing opinions.

Thank you Robert.
That is really what I’m interested in learning. Where do individuals see their country’s priorities? Would you want to pay for the things you want done? Where would you take money from?

Anybody can tear people and things down- I’ve certainly done my share of that here over the last two decades myself. Trying to be better and encourage people to try as well.

Don’t know where I stand on Speaker Mike Johnson yet. Haven’t seen enough of him and how he is going to try to steer the unwieldy barge the slim Republican majority has, and what if anything he can do in his position. I like his idea of offsets. Want to to give a billion to Ukraine? Sure. But offset it by dragging 1.1 billion from other wasteful, bloated, or PC bullchit programs.

Taxes have always been my #1 issue and still is. Getting real control over the Southern border is 1B. If we were REALLY serious about controlling the border, it would start with deporting the Dreamers. Your parents dragged you into the country when you were three? Don’t blame the government for you being sent back to your country of birth.

Stark, cold, and not very nice. However, it would be the strongest possible message sent to anyone else trying to get here illegally.

Or…. Instead of giving Ukraine cash, we send them illegals we scoop up. Everyone 18 and older- go and do four years in the Ukrainian Army. They can apply for citizenship there once they finish their stint. The adults can choose to either bring their kids with them, or send them back to their country of origin.

The chances of getting either of those proposals are probably less than 1.8%, but at least it is an idea.

To Shawn’s point, I absolutely agree with not giving entitlements to people who haven’t paid in. Still boggles my mind that people who do not pay income taxes get tax refunds.

Couldn’t agree more. Any even half hearted attempt at research shows the demographics of those Americans that saw action on the front lines. Most were from the poorest of the poor. In Vietnam, if your family had money it was reasonably easy to get a deferment or a coveted spot in the National Guard. Way too many politicians in Washington willing to send someone else’s child in to battle, yet spare their own.

The rest is just general fodder and not directed at anyone in particular.

When it comes to spending $$$ to support other nations etc….. I don’t think it’s a zero sum game. One of the first lessons I learned in my first college economics class was the concept of “opportunity cost”. In some cases the opportunity cost of doing nothing far exceeds the cost of doing something. One example is summarized at the end of the movie “ Charlie Wilson’s War”.

For those unfamiliar with this movie it chronicled the effort Rep. Charlie Wilson of Texas to get CIA funding of Afghanistan’s fight to push the Soviets out in the 80’s. Once they were successful Wilson tried to get additional funding to build schools to begin educating the Afghans. He also wanted to secure funding to help build infrastructure. These post war endeavors were meant as a leg up to help the Afghans move away from poppy production to a more industrialized economy. But, once the war was over no one in Congress wanted to allocate additional funds. Not saying things would be any different now had the funds been allocated. But who knows? If we had given them post war aid would the cost of that aid been higher or lower than the cost to fight the wars we have fought in Afghanistan since then?

Another example is the illegals entering from our southern border. I’ve seen arguments for foreign aid to Latin America. The logic seems to be that the countries are basically 3rd world chit holes. No wonder people are leaving in droves. They want a better life. But, those in favor say that if we help them build their economy and create jobs the migrants wouldn’t have a reason to come here. Who knows how much money it would take to do so? In terms of opportunity costs, what has the greater long term costs, the foreign aid or the drain they put on our economy here? Again it’s probably impossible to accurately calculate, but it’s undeniable that there is a cost one way or another.

To pick a side I’d have to able reasonably see the cost of one verses the other. That will never happen. But, at the end of the day choosing to do nothing means we will still have to pay a cost.

Right now, there is record employment with 1.3 jobs for every unemployed American. So, I agree with you to the extent that we are in need of agricultural labor and tax contributions from them for our entitlements. Grant them some sort of life-long right to live here... other than citizenship, require them to pay taxes like you and I pay and no entitlements. If they enter illegally, kick them out with no right to ever return. If they don't pay their taxes or commit a crime, kick their entire family out, not just the individual wrongdoer.