In response to the earlier post - oh, by no means did I mean to hint that I didn't go through EVERY SINGLE grocery / drug store brand there was...at one point I had a dozen half-empty packages of everything known to man in my kitchen drawer. (Humidify them? What was that?) Garcia Vegas, sure, plus those pipe tobacco ones...a Hav-a-Tampa with the wooden tip - very continental. Even smoked White Owl New Yorkers for awhile, god they were awful, but they were consistently awful and cheap. When the car became unbearable it was fairly painless to toss a ten cent stogie out the window.