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Master of the Universe
wer Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 02-13-2003
Posts: 1,633
No, I'm not talking about myself. I have enough trouble staying master of my own domain.

What I'm seeking opinions on is this weeks CI special of $19.95 for 10 Aristoff "Master of the Universe" closeout. Anybody had these before? Are they any good? Will they just show up here in a couple of weeks at half the price? Appreciate your thoughts.
plabonte Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 09-11-2000
Posts: 2,131
By the Sword of Greyscull...I HAVE THE POWER!

wer Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 02-13-2003
Posts: 1,633
LOL - Good He-Man reference.

I see someone at HP started a similar thread and they aren't faring very well. Someone that prides himself on "yard gars" called them a "flavorless boom turd." Ouch. I guess I'll pass.
Penguin13 Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 07-26-2002
Posts: 1,546
Wer - shot me an email, I have a question for ya

Threedrcoupe (at) yahoo com

KC
Steve*R Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 07-23-2001
Posts: 1,858
The original Aristoff was a high end Dominican cigar. The brand was contract produced and owned by some guys who wanted to break into the cigar business, but were totally inexperienced. They entered the market at a bad time, had virtually no experience marketing cigars, and got no cooperation from others in the industry.

When they went belly up, their entire remaining inventory+ machinery, molds, etc. was sold to a major cigar wholesaler/retailer, who sold off the old inventory, including the original Masters of the Universe. He in association with the Bermejos, primarily Triki, reintroduced the brand. Triki Bermejo is NATSA, a Nicaraguan manufacturer, which produces brands like Montecruz Negra Cubana, Remedio, Villar y Villar, Jose Marti, and many others.

First production of Bermejo's Aristoff was mild and tasteless and there have always been draw problems with NATSA cigars. The excuse was always that they are shipped "wet" from Nicaragua and need drying time, but I think the problem has always been twofold: (1) NATSA is notorious for shipping cigars without any aging (2)It's doubtful that a mechanical drawtester is used on anything more than a fraction of production, if, at all.

These Masters of the Universe are very likely Triki's early production, so they, defacto, probably have at least one year's age on them. They are a very mild cigar.

The Aristoff Black is later production and a much fuller bodied cigar. With some age and stabilization, the larger vitolas seem to be a fine cigar.

The original Dominican Aristoff Black had a fine Brazilian Mata Fina maduro wrapper which was extraordinary.

The "deal" at $2.00 a stick will be appreciated by those who enjoy the original Macanudo taste profile, as these are extremely mild.
Charlie Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 06-16-2002
Posts: 39,751
The orginal owner/founder of Aristof is an LA businessman, who is in the gold jewlery business and knew absolutely nothing about cigars. He hired all the people to help him produce, promote and build a cigar that would be geared to the "snob" interest of cigar smoking. They choose only a few select outlets and promoted the cigar as something that people who drive Ferraris, wear Armani and live well smoke. It was a great cigar, just in the wrong hands and promoted to the wrong market. When the so called "boom" died, Aristof was just getting off the ground and the Yuppie crowd that they were appealing to lost interest in cigars and moved to another trend of the moment!

They were great cigars if you happened to get your hands on the original Aristof Blacks!

Charlie
tailgater Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 26,185
I loved the original Aristoff series. The white labels with the maduro wrapper was very tasty, and the cammy Black and Connecticut Black were outstanding.

I jumped on this special and I'm a bit disappointed.
Good construction, but the middle of this long, fat perfecto lacked any flavor. Once the cigar smoked to the narrow end, the flavor did pick up a few notches and became a decent smoke, but I'd rather have flavor through the whole experience, not just the end.

I'll let them sit a while before I spark my next one. Hopefully some additioal months will improve them.

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