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cccbus Offline
#1 Posted: Sun, Jun 8 2003, 5:53 PM EST
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How much variance from the 70/70 is acceptable?
sketcha Offline
#2 Posted: Sun, Jun 8 2003, 7:54 PM EST
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From what I've been told...

Humidity--65-73%

Temp--under 75F preferably under 73F

Room temp is fine unless you live in an igloo like limoric. You just don't want too much temp variance over relatively short periods of time. If they get too cold bad things will happen when you put the flame to 'em. I'd say 65F is a good min. temp.
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#3 Posted: Sun, Jun 8 2003, 8:45 PM EST
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cccbus

it's not written in stone. i prefer not to go over the 70% humidity, it can make the cigars "soggy and hard to light."
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#4 Posted: Mon, Jun 9 2003, 2:03 AM EST
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cccbus

IMHO:For aging/long term storage 70/70 is considered by most to be optimal. We all know this ideal range can be difficult or for some impossible to maintain (unless you
eleltea Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Jun 9 2003, 3:01 AM EST
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In Havana, the average temperature year round is 77 degrees, and the average afternoon humidity is 68.

The temperature ranges from an average of 71 in February to 82 in Aug/Sep.

Average afternoon humidity ranges from 60 in Feb to 74 in Aug.

Check this out: The average *morning* humidity is 91! and ranges from 88 in Feb to 94 in Aug/Sep/Oct.

Don't know how much air-conditioning they have in the cigar barns in Cuba, but I think we all fuss too much. Pretty soon you'll be able to tell by holding a cigar between fingers and thumb whether it is too wet or too dry.



The average high temperature year around is 84, and the highs range from 78 in February to 89 in September.
Fatshotbud Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Jun 9 2003, 4:33 AM EST
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Hmmm? Wonder what happened to the rest of my post?
hoagie55 Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Jun 9 2003, 4:38 AM EST
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What "bad things" happens to your cigar if the temperature is below 65? I alway skeep m humnidity between 65% - 71% RH, but the temperature is more difficult to regulate. It never gets over 71 degrees, but has dropped below 65 some evenings. I'm just curious as to what "bad things" happen to them at that point.
Fatshotbud Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Jun 9 2003, 5:02 AM EST
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Mr_Vance Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Jun 9 2003, 6:19 AM EST
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I agree with eleltea. As long as any changes in temp/R.H. are not too abrupt, and storage conditions do not remain within "egg hatching" parameters for an extended period, then there really is little to fret over. (Whew! Faulkner would be proud of that last sentence!)

However I had one, (and only one), outbreak of beetles. The experience of losing some fine cigars (including 1/2 box of Hemingways) left me traumatized and carrying emotional scars for life. (Honest, doctor, my condition qualifies me for a handicap permit.)

So now, if conditions reach 73/73, I'm wringing my hands like a preacher at a Black Sabbath concert. My head says "relax, have a smoke" but my heart sinks like Enron stock the day after Martha Stewart sells.

So now, if I suspect a cigar may be harboring terrorist beetles, I use the "smoke 'em out" method to determine if the little rascals are in there. Even if no beetles are detected, I can be assured they will never infest THAT cigar again.

Keep smokin' (]]]]]]]]]]]]~~~
sketcha Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Jun 9 2003, 9:40 AM EST
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Well Hoag, I didn't exactly say bad things will happen if the temp gets below 65. Just that that is a good min' temp. I'm sure you will not have problems if it gets a little cooler. I run mine at about 66F. From what I know, your cigars could explode when you put flame to 'em if they are too cold.
Fatshotbud Offline
#11 Posted: Mon, Jun 9 2003, 10:51 AM EST
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I am going to give up on my post. There was two more paragraphs when I toggled to post. And I ain't typing all that again.
How about google cigar aging, a lot of info at the finger tips.
BUD
eleltea Offline
#12 Posted: Mon, Jun 9 2003, 1:45 PM EST
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Sketcha, many smokers prefer 65 RH. Some Habanos smokers say the Habano leaf is thicker and holds too much moisture at 70. Some like 58. For long term storage, 70 would be better because any drying out of the leaf results in oil loss = flavor loss. At higher RH, mold becomes a worry, along with those dreaded cigar weasels. Store them at 68-70 and take them out and put them in a box with no humidifer in it for a day or a few days before you smoke them and see what suits you. I like cigars that smoke and burn well right out of the humi, but a lot of them don't.
sketcha Offline
#13 Posted: Tue, Jun 10 2003, 7:16 AM EST
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eleltea,

Yeah, I put 65-73% in my original reply. I guess you lost me somewhere. All of that sounds reasonable to me. I agree that below 68% there is a potential for oil loss and that's not for me. I run my coolerdor at about 70% with 50/50 and about 66F. My desktops are a little warmer maybe 69ish.
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