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originalgoat Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Jul 22 2003, 11:20 AM EST
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hi guys - question for you all-

my understanding is that it isn't illegal for an overseas merchant to ship ISOM's to you, but that it is illegal for YOU, as consumer, to buy them with american $$ and have them imported. My question - have any of you heard any horror stories of a U.S. customer being fined or imprisoned? Or do you most often just get your sticks confiscated? just curious ;)

docrks Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Jul 22 2003, 11:30 AM EST
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No one on this board would ever participate in any activity that would possibly run them afoul of the laws of this land ---- If it is deemed illegal to import or purchase Habana product - then no one I have ever dealt with in any C-Bid forum has, to the best of my knowledge, ever transgressed this directive.

PS - Do you think that just maybe your posting is now being read by someone who works for the US Customs Dept. and also enjoys cigars ?? ! !
----- tread carefully here
DrMaddVibe Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, Jul 22 2003, 11:32 AM EST
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Its illegal. You'll be arrested AND Slim-Slapped. If you persist on talking about items that conflict with our gracious host then you might even get Slime-Slapped!

My advice...take it offline with someone that knows about what you're talking about or there's always search engines.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#4 Posted: Tue, Jul 22 2003, 11:33 AM EST
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Besides I did not have relations with that cigar...
E-Chick Offline
#5 Posted: Tue, Jul 22 2003, 11:40 AM EST
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Not that we're paranoid or anything...
docrks Offline
#6 Posted: Tue, Jul 22 2003, 11:46 AM EST
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E-Chick -
How do we know that's your real name?
Why are you staring at everyone that way ?? !!!
Are we being followed?
What did they say !! ??
Ohhhhh sorry - time to refill the Rx....
rasdas Offline
#7 Posted: Tue, Jul 22 2003, 11:54 AM EST
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LMAO at DrMadd....

Slime-slapped....getting alot of mileage from that quarter...

RasDas
Robby Offline
#8 Posted: Tue, Jul 22 2003, 12:01 PM EST
Joined: 10-30-2002
Posts: 5,067
I've bought and gotten some really good deals from ***YANKED*** and they even kept them in the box with bands and everything! And ***YANKED*** offered a money back satisfaction guarantee!! Best of all, ***YANKED*** had the lowest prices, guaranteed!!! Weeeeeeeee

And they said it was all legal, as long as they send you counterfeits.
xibbumbero Offline
#9 Posted: Tue, Jul 22 2003, 1:17 PM EST
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I know nothing...I see nothing. X :~)
BeatDragon Offline
#10 Posted: Tue, Jul 22 2003, 1:38 PM EST
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Illegal is a sick bird
originalgoat Offline
#11 Posted: Tue, Jul 22 2003, 2:29 PM EST
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OK, point taken. But just so my original intent is clear, I wasn't asking for ANY incriminating info, advice on commmiting an illegal act, merchant names, websites, or even personal experiences. I was simply curious (as stated in the original post) as to what the popular belief was as far as how hard the government tends to come down on offenders. But I'll leave it alone. Consider it dropped. :)
Robby Offline
#12 Posted: Tue, Jul 22 2003, 2:37 PM EST
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GTO, people do it all the time. There are good sites where you can get good results. They're pricey.. I've never heard of anyone being prosecuted and I believe it would be difficult to prove. Especially if the shipment arrived unbanded in a bag. But then there's the reputation of the vendor. They need to be reputable.
sketcha Offline
#13 Posted: Tue, Jul 22 2003, 2:46 PM EST
Joined: 03-26-2003
Posts: 3,238
Goat,

If you're interested, why don't you post your email. I don't have any info for you, but someone may be kind enough to help.
Steve*R Offline
#14 Posted: Tue, Jul 22 2003, 2:49 PM EST
Joined: 07-23-2001
Posts: 1,858
Dear Sir: The records of this office indicate that you might have an interest in certain property seized by U.S. Customs in Chicago, Illinois.................

Until you accept delivery of any item, whether from an off shore cigar vendor, Dell computer, CBid, etc. the property still legally belongs to the seller. That is why in cases of lost orders, the seller/vendor makes the insurance claim. Look at the paragraph above: "you might have an interest." If you order Cuban cigars and U.S. Customs impounds them, unless you claim that they are yours, ownership has not transferred from seller to buyer. Because they are contraband, U.S. Customs has no obligation to return them to the seller, so they are "disposed" of. If you respond to a U.S. Customs letter, acknowledging purchase, you may be prosecuted. Where only a couple of boxes are involved, U.S. Customs snares the sticks, and sends the letter that begins with the paragraph atop this post.

You may have read, recently, that a group of lawyers were prosecuted for the importation of several hundred Cuban cigars. U.S. Customs interceded delivery and had the addressee come to the common carrier's depot to pick up the cigars. When he signed for receipt, acknowledging that this was a parcel he'd ordered, BOOM! He was arrested.

Everyone who buys Cuban cigars may ultimately lose some money. Some vendors guarantee delivery, but once you've had cigars impounded by Customs, you can expect it will happen again and again, unless you are a businessperson engaged in international commerce. If you get shipments of kewpie dolls from Hong Kong, the likelihood that U.S. Customs will examine 100 cases of dolls looking for a box of Monte #2 habano is slim to none.

Are impounds up?? According to my friends at USPS, it depends on which Customs office serves your geographic area.

The question is: If you order, for example, a box of Bolivar Belicosos Finos (Habano) from the Netherlands for $242.00 + shipping and U.S. Customs grabs them, will it seriously impact your wallet? Is it worth it?
originalgoat Offline
#15 Posted: Tue, Jul 22 2003, 3:16 PM EST
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hey, that's exactly the kinds of things i was curious about. it just seems to me, that in this day and age, with all of the serious issues facing this country and the world, the government would have more important things to spend time and money on than people who enjoy cigars from cuba. kinda like the los angeles city council wanting to ban lap dances. we got drugs, kids shooting each other, innocent victims caught in the crossfire, etc..., but let's get rid of those AWFUL lap dances! sheesh.
cccbus Offline
#16 Posted: Tue, Jul 22 2003, 5:20 PM EST
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Did I hear Slime Slapped again...thats one that that guy who called Slim.. Slime.. is never gonna live down...ROFLOL..So funny...wait...a min...thats me that made that boo boo.....
arwings Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Jul 23 2003, 9:09 AM EST
Joined: 02-09-2003
Posts: 950
It is still illegal if you just LIGHT it, but don't PUFF on it!?
remington850 Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Jul 23 2003, 10:57 AM EST
Joined: 05-28-2003
Posts: 213
No. I think Clinton proved that one.

Remington850
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