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HOW DID WE SURVIVE?
SP Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 07-16-2003
Posts: 609
Looking back, it's hard to believe that we have lived as long as we have..... My Mom used to cut chicken, chop eggs and spread mayo on the same cutting board with the same knife and no bleach, but we didn't seem to get food poisoning.



My Mom used to defrost hamburger on the counter AND I used to eat it raw sometimes too, but I can't remember getting E-coli.



We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors, or cabinets, and when we rode our bikes we had no helmets. We played with toy guns, cowboys and Indians, army, cops and robbers, and used our fingers to simulate guns when the toy ones or my BB gun was not available.



Some students weren't as smart as others or didn't work hard so they failed a grade and were held back to repeat the same grade. That generation produced some of the greatest risk-takers and problem solvers.



We had the freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned how to deal with it all. Almost all of us would have rather gone swimming in the lake instead of a pristine pool (talk about boring), the term cell phone would have conjured up a phone in a jail cell, and a pager was the school PA system.



We all took gym, not PE... and risked permanent injury with a pair of high top Ked's (only worn in gym) instead of having cross-training athletic shoes with air cushion soles and built in light reflectors. I can't recall any injuries but they must have happened because they tell us how much safer we are now. Flunking gym was not an option... even for stupid kids! I guess PE must be much harder than gym.

Every year, someone taught the whole school a lesson by running in the halls with leather soles on linoleum tile and hitting the wet spot.



How much better off would we be today if we only knew we could have sued the school system. Speaking of school, we all said prayers and the pledge and stayed in detention after school and caught all sorts of negative attention for the next two weeks. We must have had horribly damaged psyches.



I can't understand it. Schools didn't offer 14 year olds an abortion or condoms (we wouldn't have known what either was anyway) but they did give us a couple of aspirin and cough syrup if we started getting the sniffles. What an archaic health system we had then. Remember school nurses? Ours wore a hat and everything.



I thought that I was supposed to accomplish something before I was allowed to be proud of myself.



I just can't recall how bored we were without computers, PlayStation, Nintendo, X-box or 270 digital cable stations.

I must be repressing that memory as I try to rationalize through the denial of the dangers could have befallen us as we trekked off each day about a mile down the road to some guy's vacant 20, built forts out of branches and pieces of plywood, made trails, and fought over who got to be the Lone Ranger. What was that property owner thinking, letting us play on that lot. He should have been locked up for not putting up a fence around the property, complete with a self-closing gate and an infrared intruder alarm.



Oh yeah... and where was the Benadryl and sterilization kit when I got that bee sting? I could have been killed! We played king of the hill on piles of gravel left on vacant construction sites and when we got hurt, Mom pulled out the 48 cent bottle of mercurochrome and then we got our butt spanked. Now it's a trip to the emergency room, followed by a 10-day dose of a $49 bottle of antibiotics and then Mom calls the attorney to sue the contractor for leaving a horribly vicious pile of gravel where it was such a threat.

We didn't act up at the neighbor's house either because if we did, we got our butt spanked (physical abuse) ... and then we got our butt spanked again when we got home.

Mom invited the door to door salesman inside for coffee, kids choked down the dust from the gravel driveway while playing with Tonka trucks (remember why Tonka trucks were made tough... it wasn't so that they could take the rough berber in the family room), and Dad drove a car with leaded gas.



Our music had to be left inside when we went out to play and I am sure that I nearly exhausted my imagination a couple of times when we went on two week vacations. I should probably sue the folks now for the danger they put us in when we all slept in campgrounds in the family tent.



Summers were spent behind the push lawnmower and I didn't even know that mowers came with motors until I was 13 and we got one without an automatic blade-stop or an auto-drive. How sick were my parents?



Of course my parents weren't the only psychos. I recall Donny Reynolds from next door coming over and doing his tricks on the front stoop just before he fell off. Little did his Mom know that she could have owned our house. Instead she picked him up and swatted him for being such a goof. It was a neighborhood run amuck.



To top it off, not a single person I knew had ever been told that they were from a dysfunctional family. How could we possibly have known that we needed to get into group therapy and anger management classes? We were obviously so duped by so many societal ills, that we didn't even notice that the entire country wasn't taking Prozac!

How did we survive?
mrsanmrfox Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 01-10-2003
Posts: 133
SP,


I comepletely sempathize with you, for the most part I did the same exact things, lived the same life and now I see my nephews and Daughter growing up and life around me and ponder on the same things. I think we need a reality check and bring our culture back a little to the way it was. Forget about suing someone because you ate to much icecream and wasn't warned about the fat content. Or Eating to much bigmacs and suing because it made you fat. No one can force you to eat ice cream and Big Macs, so it's the persons own Da*n fault. Thanks for the memories...

Brad
JonR Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 02-19-2002
Posts: 9,740
Yo SP: I'll tell you how we survived, we were taught the number one secret... " incase of an atomic attack get under a desk " LOL JonR
Robby Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 10-30-2002
Posts: 5,067
I don’t understand? Progress is not bad??

One could say of the time 50 years earlier that they did things differently too. I.e., we were bled with leaches and we survived? Doesn’t mean it was a better time necessarily, just different… As it will be different in another 50 years.
SP Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 07-16-2003
Posts: 609
Robby, no one said that progress is bad. It's just that certain things do change for the worst. Progress is a great thing, ie: medical research (although the enrollment to medical schools have dropped because of tuition costs and malpractice insurance.) I live in Carmel California, so I am lucky to be in a great city, Pebble Beach golf, beautiful beaches and such, but I can't smoke a cigar anywhere, the smoke police will be all over you, Hell, even Eastwood has to go outside to light up. Now the smoke police have invaded New York....What's next. (Note: I do belong to the American Legion, Post 512, and you can smoke there and all Legions, as they are exempt to city and county laws, so anyone that would like to smoke and have a cocktail so join there local Legion.)Carmel laws do not allow live music, neon signs, high heel shoes (although they don't enforce that one, it is still on the books if they do want to confront a female for what ever reason)At one time, ice cream cones were banned on the city streets, until Clint Eastwood became mayor and threw that one out. Still, all in all, there is no crime although a police officer did discharge his weapon on a car chase when the subject tried to run him over, first time in 40 years has a shot been fired in Carmel.
Robby Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 10-30-2002
Posts: 5,067
When I was on a business trip to San Fran, I drove down the coast to Carmel and had lunch. It was beautiful. It must be incredible to live there.
cwilhelmi Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 07-24-2001
Posts: 2,739
Robby - I agree, change is inevitible, sometimes it's progress and other times it is not. I also think that change is more rapid now than ever and it will continue to quicken.

The funny thing is, we're all somewhat to blame for the changes for the worse, it's just a matter of what gets done to rectify them...
arwings Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 02-09-2003
Posts: 950
To me it can be pretty much summed up in one phrase: Personal Responsibility! If we screwed up it was painful, but it was our screw-up, and we learned from it. Nowadays if we screw up, it's just GOT to be someone else's fault, i.e., school, property/home-owner, manufacturer, service-provider, retailer, etc. And I think we've done an absolutely fabulous job of instilling self-esteem in everyone; to the point that no one has to accomplish anything; they just have to BE, and they are entitled to success, fortune, happiness, and all those other things that the generation you're referring to has had to work a lifetime for. Don't want to get on a rant here; just my opinion.
puskarich Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 01-04-2003
Posts: 2,143
I'm only 28 years old, so in some ways I guess I'm still a young pup...at least for a few more years. Family members send me e-mails like this all the time and I always say....

Childproofing lids, medicine bottles, cabinets, etc = introduced by your generation.

People building all those pristine swimming pools = done by your generation.

Changing the name of gym to PE. Also, changing the name from Secretary to Administrative Assistant (the one that really ticks me off) = done by your generation.

Most of the parents suing the school system...and encouraging their kids to sue McDonalds = some of the crazy people from your generation.

Nintendo & Playstation (child systems of the original Atari), the Internet, and computers in general = invented by people from your generation.

The psychologists inventing new terms like ADD, dysfunctional families, "timeouts" (you know, the parents in the grocery stores that count to three before they smack their kids: "Oooooonnnee....twwwooooooooooo" = invented by your generation.

So next time you see your nieces and nephews running around and thinking how good they have it, dont think we have to step back in time to make things better. I personally think your generation did an ass kicking job of putting us younger folks in a decent world. Nothing is ever perfect and you didnt inherit a perfect world to begin with. I imagine we wont either when it is our turn.
tobii3 Offline
#10 Posted:
Joined: 07-22-2003
Posts: 89
wow.....I remember doing all of that....

SP, I had to say something here....I'm in Afghanistan right now (US Army), and I saw you're in Carmel.....almost home for me!!!

I grew up in Prunedale doing ALL those things you listed.

Funny thing....My Dad still works for Hanson, Rotter & Green there in Carmel....

You should have seen the sh*tstorm I caused by lighting up a Hemi Best Seller the last time I was there.....You would have thought everything stopped on Ocean Avenue just to look at me....
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 10-01-2000
Posts: 33,248
SP

dud you grow up in new york also? by new york i mean brooklyn, the bronx, or queens, not albany or rochester, which are not new york. not manhatten which is called "the city." not staten island, which is one of the 5 boroughs, but not commonly thought of as new york.

how did we all know at the same time it was kite season, or marble season, or cap pistol season and time for cops and robbers or cowboys and indians.

i just bought an old cap pistol like the one i carried as a kid to shot the nazis that might be found on the way to the store for milk. i dare not even keep it in the car now.

did you ever have a stolen spauldeen for stickball?

did you have the paper walkie talkies with the string stretched tight between them so you could talk to you buddy?

did your mother ever throw a nickle in a paper bag from the 4th floor so you could get a good humor?

i never had a watch, but i knew when it was 6:00 pm and captain midnight, little orphan annie, terry and the pirates, and superman were on the radio.

did you also wrap your baseball with electrician's tape because the outside was coming off?

did you ever steal something from the five and dime only to have your mother find out and march you back to the store and have you return it to the manager and apologize for stealing it?

when you traded comics, not the ones the dealer ripped the top half of the cover off which made them worthless? for this months you could two of last months.

i forgot how long it took to roast a spud in a fire.

when did you buy your first record. i did when i went away to college with my new, used wind up gramaphone with a package of new needles. it was mugsey spanier playing "somebody stole my gal." i don't remember what was on the other side.

what was the name of the first girl in the 5th or 6th grade that started getting boobs and you tried to bump into her whenever you could? i remember eddie brancachio.

do you remember the name of the first girl that gave you a hard on every time you saw her, even though you never talked to her? i remember selma krinski.

how about the old lady school teacher the taught you algebra and turned you on to math for the rest of your life?

how about the old lady school teacher that taught "music appreciation" and ruined any chance you might have had to learn to enjoy classical music?

those old ladies must have been in their 30's.

did you get movie money by taking empty milk bottles that you "found" on someone's stoop back to the store for the 3 cent deposit? and now they call it recycling.

i'll bet you were in heaven when you made your first rubber band gun and shot the milk bottle caps at you buddy and hit him. he always said "watch out for my eyes."

thanks to you, sp, for reviving old treasured memories.

arwings Offline
#12 Posted:
Joined: 02-09-2003
Posts: 950
RICKAMAVAN.......I'm with you with slight varietions (different part of the country).

Walkie-Talkies were pint milk cartons with a taut string between them.

Cola bottles turned in for 3 cents each (you could see a double-feature and a serial with a cartoon at the local theater for .10 and get a huge box of pretzels for .05, or you could get 1/4 POUND Baby Ruth or Butterfinger for .10, AND you could stay all day).

When Ma wanted you back home she turned the radio up and you could hear the theme music from the Lone Ranger from where you were, and come running.

Never once got away from stealing candy from the five and dime, and Ma would march me back up there to pay for it and tender apologies (still can't figure out what I always did wrong).

Could go on and on. Posts have rekindled a lot of memories I haven't thought about in years.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#13 Posted:
Joined: 10-01-2000
Posts: 33,248
one of my favorite authors is pete hamill, i sent this email to him:

From: RICKAMAVEN
Date: Sunday, June 08, 2003 6:41:09 AM
To: [email protected]

pete

i'm 70 so i can get by on first name basis.

i am reading "forever" as slow as i can because i want to savor each page.

on page 500 something you did stop me cold. "spaldeen"
i never thought about the memories one word could evoke.

"over da fence is a double, on da roof is a automatic."

thanks for wiping off about 60 years of dust and letting me see the treasure again.

rick

he sent an email back to me:

From: hamill
Date: Monday, June 09, 2003 3:22:29 AM
To: RICKAMAVEN
Subject: Re:


Rick: And off da parked cah is a hindoo. Thanks for your note and for
reading so carefully. All da best, Pete Hamill






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