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Robby Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Aug 7 2003, 5:11 PM EST
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Ok, here's a crazy idea. I was enjoying a lunch time smoke with Mrtelecom today (a Thursday tradition) and this discussion came up (briefly :-)

What affect if any do you think altitude has on aging and or smoking cigars? Atlanta is right at 1,000 feet above sea level. It seems that atmospheric pressure would have some effect however small? For instance, you can boil water at lower temps at higher altitudes? There's measurably less pressure and less oxygen at higher altitudes? So it stands to reason that altitude should have some affect on cigars.

Also, on a more obscure note, Einstein’s theory on general relativity states that time moves slower relative to speed, i.e., the faster you're moving, the slower time passes relative to slower moving objects. So technically, since the earth is revolving, and the higher you are, the faster you are moving relative to the core or lower objects. Therefore, cigars that are aged at lower altitudes are millionths of a second older than their cousins aged at higher altitudes?
jd1 Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Aug 7 2003, 5:17 PM EST
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Have you ever heard Norm's theory on why drinking beer makes you smarter??



Not sure about this theory Robby. All I know is that my cigars age nicely here in Arizona and the more time I give them the better they taste. I also know that aging a dog rocket only makes it an older dog rocket...
mrtelcom Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Aug 7 2003, 6:06 PM EST
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I am hoping that Robby get's committed soon and I will contact the Mrs. and volunteer to take the Plumidor off her hands...
;-P
mrtelcom Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Aug 7 2003, 6:07 PM EST
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uh .. gets not get's
cccbus Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Aug 7 2003, 10:51 PM EST
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LOL..never heard Norms theory on why drinking beer makes you smarter but I do know its a dog eat dog world and I'm wearing milkbone underwear. :-)
raven01 Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Aug 7 2003, 11:28 PM EST
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To make sure your idea is correct you must check it against something. I live at sea level in Ct.If you send half of your gars Ill let you know what happens

Just being helpful
Raven
ajeroth Offline
#7 Posted: Fri, Aug 8 2003, 1:18 AM EST
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I'm impressed Robby.... Your theory about the cigars being older or younger is right. But its not on a scale that would register to the human senses. I like this Einstein and cigars. Did he smoke anything but that pipe?
xrundog Offline
#8 Posted: Fri, Aug 8 2003, 3:00 AM EST
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Sooooo if you put them in the SST( really high,really fast) for a round trip, would they be super aged when you got them back?
Robby Offline
#9 Posted: Fri, Aug 8 2003, 3:33 AM EST
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hehe, they would be relatively younger than the cigars you left in your humidor :-) Likewise with Altitude, people at higher altitude are moving more quickly than people at lower altitude and therefore aging at a relative rate more slowly. Of course the difference would be impossible to measure! However, I think atmospheric pressure could have a difference on aging, I just don't know what it would be. I would think that sea level would be better? I don't know why, perhaps because cigars are grown closer to sea level?
funjohnny19 Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Aug 8 2003, 5:38 AM EST
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Robby - you are on the right track. Sea level is a more stable air enviroment due to a higher atmospheric pressure. The pressure makes the air 'heavier' and heavier air is more stable and helps stabilize temperatures. As you increase altitude, pressure decreases - like you said. Under less pressure, oxygen and water vapor molecules are more widely dispersed throughout the atmosphere, making the air feel thinner. Temperature also factors in. The colder the temperature, the faster the pressure decreases.

So what does all this have to due with cigars? Not much really. If you are keeping your humidors at 70/70, the altitude/air pressure shouldn't be a factor. You might have to fill your humidifiers more often than you would if you were at sea level, but that's about it.

As far as 'aging'......Really interesting question. I don't know how altitude affects cigars in the long term, but I think the most important thing in aging cigars is maintaining a constant environment (which would be more difficult at higher elevations).

Interesting post....

funjohnny19
arwings Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Aug 8 2003, 3:37 PM EST
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Robby...........You're giving me a headache!!!!!
mrtelcom Offline
#12 Posted: Fri, Aug 8 2003, 5:48 PM EST
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Just think Robby, If you had experimented with the space/time continuim, you might have not nipped the beetle-fest at an early stage. Something to be said for staying in the same decade as your sticks..


Hope operation freeze-a-dor is going ok and you can find the peace to sleep this weekend.
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