I got a real deal on the churchill size and I smoke them every now and then. To me they are pretty good (excellent construction, good draw, consistent, and with subtle spiciness), and for the money, they are damn good! I have offered them a number of times to my novice cigar smoker acquaintances. Not too full-bodied, easy to keep lit and smokes evenly. As I've posted elsewhere, I read some place that they are made by the folks that make Ashton, and judging by their consistently good, uniform construction, this may be the case.