These guys are making some really good cigars. Their best ones, to my taste, are the boxed but unbanded ones, such as the 2000 Series Cabinet #4 I test drove today. Don't know the wrapper, but it was natural. Great smoke, great ash, great taste. My local shop guy smokes these all the time, and he can smoke whatever he wants. Couple days ago I had a LFD maduro in a belicoso size. Also boxed, no band. A little more power and pretty near awesome. If you spot them, try one on for size. I have pretty much stopped talking about all the cigars I don't like and am currently marveling at how many I do.