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Homebrew Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2003, 8:43 AM EST
Joined: 02-11-2003
Posts: 11,885
I might not agree with their entire platform, but I am a proud Libertarian. I just thought I would post some of the stuff they send in their newsletter, every week.
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NEWS FROM THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY
2600 Virginia Avenue, NW, Suite 100
Washington DC 20037
World Wide Web: http://www.LP.org
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For release: October 16, 2003
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For additional information:
George Getz, Communications Director
Phone: (202) 333-0008
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America owes talk host Rush Limbaugh
a debt of gratitude, Libertarians say

WASHINGTON, DC -- The entire nation owes radio broadcaster Rush
Limbaugh a debt of gratitude, Libertarians say, because his ordeal has
exposed every drug warrior in America as a rank hypocrite.

"One thing we don't hear from American politicians very often is
silence," said Joe Seehusen, Libertarian Party executive director. "By
refusing to criticize Rush Limbaugh, every drug warrior has just been
exposed as a shameless, despicable hypocrite. And that's good news,
because the next time they do speak up, there'll be no reason for
anyone to listen."

The revelation that Limbaugh had become addicted to painkillers --
drugs he is accused of procuring illegally from his housekeeper -- has
caused a media sensation ever since the megastar's shocking, on-air
confession last week.

As the Limbaugh saga continues, here's an important question for
Americans to ask, Libertarians say: Why are all the drug warriors
suddenly so silent?

"Republican and Democratic politicians have written laws that have
condemned more than 400,000 Americans to prison for committing the same
'crime' as Rush Limbaugh," Seehusen pointed out. "If this pill-popping
pontificator deserves a get-out-of-jail-free card, these drug warriors
had better explain why."

Given their longstanding support for the Drug War, it's fair to ask:

Why haven't President George Bush or his tough-on-crime attorney
general, John Ashcroft, uttered a word criticizing Limbaugh's law-
breaking?

Why aren't drug czar John P. Walters or his predecessor, Barry
McCaffrey, lambasting Limbaugh as a menace to society and a threat to
"our children?"

Why aren't federal DEA agents storming Limbaugh's $30 million Florida
mansion in a frantic search for criminal evidence?

Why haven't federal, state, and local police agencies seized the
celebrity's homes and luxury cars under asset-forfeiture laws?

Finally, why aren't bloviating blabbermouths like William Bennett
publicly explaining how America would be better off if Limbaugh were
prosecuted, locked in a steel cage and forced to abandon his wife, his
friends, and his career?

The answer is obvious, Seehusen said: "America's drug warriors are
shameless hypocrites who believe in one standard of justice for
ordinary Americans and another for themselves, their families and their
political allies.

"That alone should completely discredit them."

But there's an even more disturbing possibility, Seehusen said: that
the people who are prosecuting the Drug War don't even believe in its
central premise -- which is that public safety requires that drug users
be jailed.

"The Bushes and Ashcrofts and McCaffreys of the world may believe,
correctly, that individuals fighting a drug addiction deserve medical,
not criminal treatment," he said. "That would explain why they're not
demanding that Limbaugh be jailed.

"But if that's the case, these politicians have spent decades tearing
apart American families for their own political gain. And that's an
unforgivable crime."





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Just kind of interested in what some of you think.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
P.S. Just doing my part to liven things up. I Miss USAHOG.
65gtoman Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2003, 9:11 AM EST
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He’s only a radio talk show host, big deal, really…… that letter makes him out to be a member of congress or the leader of this country.

JFK was a pill popper from hell, so whats the point to all of this. He’s a talk show host and nothing more..




cwilhelmi Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2003, 9:20 AM EST
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65gtoman - are you still mad that JFK forced integration?
65gtoman Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2003, 9:41 AM EST
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first your implying that I was once mad about that by using the word still, and that’s not true at all, your liberal thinking tells you to call me a racist because that’s all you liberals know how to do.

I personally hate JFK for denouncing masonry, being a drug addict, along with a few other things I will not even get into.

But thanks again on proving that all liberals know, is to pull out the race card at the drop of the hat.

Funny how some are so quick to yell out racist but bad mouth religion, that’s kind of racist in a way. But without color.


SteveS Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2003, 9:42 AM EST
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While both are big societal problems, I think there's a huge difference between use and/or abuse of ILLEGAL and use/abuse of LEGAL drugs ...
Homebrew Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2003, 9:53 AM EST
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I agree SteveS,
Until those drugs, are diverted to the black market. At that point they become just as Illegal, as the others. Rush was buying them on the black market, no matter that the drug dealer he was buying them from was a pharmacist. He had no prescription. The pharmacist, probably wasn't selling them at his usual price, or paying taxes, on the proceeds, of his drug dealing. That means Rush was helping to support a criminal enterprise. It would not be such a big deal, if he wasn't a Big Name Political Commentator, who has been bashing dope smokers, and other drug addicts, for so long, while having a monkey on his back at the same time.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
johnfs Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2003, 9:59 AM EST
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The fact that he is talk show is the whole point. He is a person that wants to direct people to his line of thinking, is the what at stake, crediability is some what lost. Classic, do as I say, not as I do.
johnfs Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2003, 10:00 AM EST
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The fact that he is poltical talk show is the whole point. He is a person that wants to direct people to his line of thinking, is the what at stake, crediability is some what lost.
johnfs Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2003, 10:00 AM EST
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The fact that he is poltical talk show is the whole point. He is a person that wants to direct people to his line of thinking, is the what at stake, crediability is some what lost.
Homebrew Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2003, 10:01 AM EST
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That was my point John, but you put it much more succinctly.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
johnfs Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2003, 10:01 AM EST
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opps commputer was have brain fart
Homebrew Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2003, 10:06 AM EST
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LOL
cwilhelmi Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2003, 10:20 AM EST
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"JFK was a pill popper from hell..."

I was basing my question on your statement, so if he did some things right then not all pill poppers are bad people, or from hell as you stated. Just because you have a beef with a couple things he said or did doesn't make him into the devil, he did a lot of good things for this country, and passed a lot of ground breaking legislation.

Sorry to prove my point in such a rude way, but your statements have been much worse.
65gtoman Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2003, 10:25 AM EST
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And what was the point you proved?
cwilhelmi Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2003, 10:28 AM EST
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That he wasn't all bad like your post alluded to, and that him being a pill popper or not has nothing to do with his character just like it doesn't with Rush.
sketcha Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2003, 10:34 AM EST
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Posts: 3,238
SteveS,

I respectfully disagree. Morphine is a legal, prescribably drug. It's basically high-grade opium or heroin. The point of only allowing doctors to prescribe drugs is based on the fact that many are so dangerous.

As a man with serious back problems, I can empathise. I use chiropractic and very rarely resort to drugs, but that's because I believe I am more educated on the follies of invasive surgery and drugs. But I can certainly understand Rush's need to escape excruciating pain. Just as cancer patients can benefit from medicinal marijuana, doctors should be given all the tools necessary to help people.

I, personally take the liberatarian stance on this. Rush should get treatment and a second chance, but so should many of those who have been wronfully imprisoned for similar activities.

Let FREEDOM ring!
jdrabinski Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2003, 7:12 PM EST
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The Libs are right on this one.

Nearly everyone who is addicted to drugs, legal or illegal, takes drugs to escape some sort of pain...physical, mental, etc.

Rush did not take legal drugs. The moment he exceeded his prescription, he traficked in illegal drugs, just like any junkie. Just because they were legal when he started does NOT mean that they were legal throughout.

He won't go to prison. If he was a liberal, the conservatives would freak about him getting off. Consistency is a virtue, by the way.

John
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#18 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2003, 11:26 PM EST
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Homebrew

i may be a libertarian and not know it.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2003, 11:27 PM EST
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65gtoman

and therefore what?
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Oct 16 2003, 11:29 PM EST
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SteveS

you sound (read) like ann coulter
Homebrew Offline
#21 Posted: Fri, Oct 17 2003, 4:04 AM EST
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Hey 65gto,
Nice cars, by the way, saw your picturepost a while back. My point, was made by John, in a much clearer answer. "The fact that he is talk show is the whole point. He is a person that wants to direct people to his line of thinking, is the what at stake, crediability is some what lost. Classic, do as I say, not as I do.
Alot of conservatives, love to throw stones, while living in glass houses. I am conservative, fiscally, but liberal, on social issues. I could care less, if druggies, do their drugs, as long as they don't want someone else to supply their living, so they can hang out with friends, and do drugs. I know several functioning drug addicts. If I were to implement drug tests, at work, I would lose my entire staff. They know, I don't put up with them being stoned, at work, but could care less, what they do in their spare time, as long as it doesn't effect their work, or ability to show up for work. One of my most talented employees, is a cronic stoner. If I see him after work, he can't put together a complete sentance, but he is never high at work, since I sent him home the first time. I have much more trouble, out of the alcoholic, on staff, calling in with the wine flu, though he calls it various things. In the 2 years, he has worked for me, he has had 28 teeth pulled, and is yet to have dentures, and has an award winning smile. Oh yeah, I answered you question already. Maybe this is another thread. LOL
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
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