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Depression?
tarheel4lyf Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 09-23-2002
Posts: 2,543
Just curious. Do (or have) any of you suffer from depression? If so, what are some things that you do to try to make yourself feel better? Just a poll....
usahog Offline
#2 Posted:
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Yep, I've been Diagnosed with one of my symptoms being Chronic Fatigue.. which also leads me into some crappy days or also called Depression... How I deal with it is with the Man upstairs and a mindset of not going to allow it to overcome and ruin my day(s) I'm also perscribed an anti Depresent because of some of the other medications which are inducing depresents...

one has to stay busy with things they enjoy and keep their mind off the nature of the Negative things...

Hog
billyjackson Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 08-19-2002
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I have been clinicly depressed (now that I found out what that was) as long as I can remember. My mom is bipolar (diagnosed) and I'm sure my dad was depressive (not diagnosed...but explains the alcoholism.

I was counseled by 4 professionals over a couple of years to try medication before I finally caved due to the deepest depression I've ever experienced. I have been on Zoloft since the middle of December (2002).

Contrary to popular ignorance, depression medication is not a "happy pill" that you take to make everything all better. It chemically resets your seratonin (sp) flow and allows your emotions (and consequently thoughts) to stablize and "clear up" so you can deal with the issues that are present (my depression, althought chemical, also contains other issues that I must deal with...medication just allows me to do that).

There are other things I can and need to do besides medication and continued counseling (medication alone rarely cuts it...get counseling also!!). I need to get off my ass and exercise...I'm obese. I need to be more deliberate in my professional and academic ambitions and not wait for things to happen. I need to learn to control my spending better. Those issues are personality/circumstantial things that medication doesn't cure.

I'm not a mental health professional (yet) so don't take my thoughts to the bank. However, they are a glimpse into my 29 years of experience with depression.

Hope this helps...
SwimNaked Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 09-15-2003
Posts: 530
In my opinion, a good way to combat depression is to give things away...

Especially if those things are Hemis or Brazilias...

And especially if they are to me...

hehe
Slimboli Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 07-09-2000
Posts: 16,139
Both my brother-in-laws suffer from chronic depression (one is bi-polar and the other won't go back for follow up doctor visits) ... and neither one of them will take the meds or go to thearpy to contol it, as perscribed by their doctors.

Both families are in a living h£ll, their lives are miserable and their quality of life is beyond horrible.

My sister finally, after 27 years of marriage and the childeren had all grown and left the nest ... filed for a divorce. She just couldn't take the abuse anymore when he went into his 'funk'.

My wife's sister-in-law, on the other hand, has developed the 'battered woman's syndrom', and thinks she is useless and can't make it on her own. She, over the years, has lost all self esteem ... due to her constant abuse ...

... and consiquently, has developed her own form of depression, and won't so anything about it, except sleep all day, and ignore her two ADD daughters and autistic son.

The sad thing is ... it's all preventable, if diagnosed correctly, and the proper medication is taken followed by the appropriate therapy.
snowwolf777 Offline
#6 Posted:
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Posts: 4,082
My brother is bi-polar, rapid cycling, which is a unique circle in the Hell that is mental illness. It has taken 10 years of a caring doctor with infinite patience to get my brother on the right balance of drugs so he can life a 90% normal life. I am blessed that my "depressions" are just everyday down spells. I share some wine with my wife, I smoke a good cigar (often), I play with my grandbaby, I fish, I hunt, I buy cigars from CBid. All these things make me feel better.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#7 Posted:
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Posts: 33,248
billyjackson

for others who do not know, clinical depression is not feeling sad, it is a chemical imbalance that subtly takes over your entire thinking and feeling. if it is not treated, you can find yourself thinking of suicide as an option.

as an example. a sudden dramatic increase in adrenilen
(sp) caused by anger when comeone cuts you off on the freeway, can trigger "road rage". your body simply reacts.

a lack of enough seratonin can cause clinical depression, your body just reacts.

my doctor, who knows me for 20 years or so recognized my clinical depression.

i too fought the idea of happy pills. i also take zoloft (sertraline} and have been for for 5 or 6 years.

i started at 50mg and over the 5 or 6 years i am now taking 150mg. i knew when i needed to bump to 100 mg and 150 mg and the doctor agreed with me each time i felt i needed to increase my medication.
usahog Offline
#8 Posted:
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Tar, Curious to why you posted this question???

Hog
gerber Offline
#9 Posted:
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Posts: 783
I've been on Zoloft and Buspar for the past few years to help treat both depression and panic attacks which have burdened my life for many, many years. The meds do help a great deal, but they aren't the end of the story. To answer the original question, I find that I feel better when I provide myself with numerous constructive distractions: I have a number of hobbies that I make lots of time for--fishing, metal detecting, golf, collecting comic books and all sorts of historical stuff, etc. I'm also starting my own non-profit to get a bit out of myself and give something to others. And, of course, I enjoy my daily cigars! I've found that too much idleness is very destructive for those of us who suffer with depression; admittedly, though, one of the greatest struggles is pushing yourself to keep active--depression carries with it a tendency toward entropy and inaction, which encourages the vicious cycle. Anyway, my antidote is meds, hobbies, and pets--they all help!!
tarheel4lyf Offline
#10 Posted:
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I started this thread because I have been fighting depression my whole life. I had the toughest battle in 1998 when I was in London. I had the day off, and had just dropped my daughter off at her day care. On my way home, I just broke dow, I could not stop crying for nothing. The pain was deep inside me, and I didn't know where it was coming from or why it was there. I eventually went to the doctor (at my wife's request). After talking with the doc, I realized that my breakdown had been coming for weeks. For at least 3 weeks prior, I had wanted to do nothing but sleep. I would come home from work, and just go to bed, then get up and go to work, then come home and go to bed. The cycle continued as I said for about 3 weeks. I though I was just tired. After reflecting on my past, including my childhood, I remember that I had "episodes" all throughout my life, and this was just the worst, and most eye-opening. I was diagnosed with "Major Depressive Disorder". Since then, I have had many, much smaller episodes. I have also had a few anxiety attacks that really scared me. I have taken quite a few feeble attempts on my own life, but was only saved by the thoughts of my daughter. Talking about my problem sometimes helps me slide through an episode, which is why I posted this thread. Thanks to everyone who responded.
Mrs. Usahog Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 02-06-2003
Posts: 405
'battered woman's syndrom'

Yep, unfortunatley this is what I have suffered from for many many years due to my last marriage. The feeling of no self worth is a major part of my ever day life. I tried Zoloft but had allergic reactions to it. Tar, just one day at a time is all I can suggest to you. Some days are hell, some are okay. I have only thought about suicide, but never really attempted it. Thank God for my kids. If it was not for them, I probably would have taken my own life. Regardless what people think or say, unless they have walked a mile in your shoes they have no damned idea what you are going through. They can give you a book, suggest all kinds of rememdies, nag and bitch at you, tell you that you are mental, sympathise with you, fill you full of drugs, but when it comes down to it...It is all up to you. I found my peace in music and God. I played the organ and piano to get me through the worst days. My boys, who also suffer from depression because of the life we lived, found their peace as well in hunting and music. I'll keep you in my prayers.

Mrs. Usahog

Mrs. Usahog Offline
#12 Posted:
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Posts: 405
Ever -- every

sorry

Mrs. Hog
rayder1 Offline
#13 Posted:
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Good discussion thread. I have always wondered about my level of fatigue sometimes. May be a milder form of depression. Or it's just being so busy with home, kids, work, bills, bad running cars, events, family requirements, trying to find time for recreation only to find the recreation is more fatiguing than relaxing.

It is interesting that fatigue is a symptom across the board. I get so whupped every day, that I tend not to take care of things that really need taking care of. I read an article about something they call "Baby Boomers Syndrome", a version of chronic fatigue.
A lot of it rings true in that every day looms ahead like another day of non-stop activity and events....have-to's. I guess its time to stop and smeel some roses.
tarheel4lyf Offline
#14 Posted:
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I have a confession to make. This was mine:

http://www.cigarbid.com/...ageDisplay=0000000011301
usahog Offline
#15 Posted:
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Posts: 22,691
I thought that was yours Tar...

I to have writen things like that before!!! not just once but many times...
thats why I asked why did you bring up this topic also...

Hog
tarheel4lyf Offline
#16 Posted:
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I wish I could find the collage I made in art class. I was going through a rough time then, and the collage I made showed my true feelings.....
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#17 Posted:
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Posts: 33,248
tarheel4ly

please don't look for it. it is the past. it is no longer part of you. finding it and looking at it will not help you with anything. forget it.
tarheel4lyf Offline
#18 Posted:
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Thanks, Rick.
jd1 Offline
#19 Posted:
Joined: 02-14-2001
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Prayer said Jason on helping you with your inner strength. Sincerely best regards, brother. Continue to move forward is the only thing I can say as I won't even begin to understand what it must be like.
eh3856 Offline
#20 Posted:
Joined: 07-27-2001
Posts: 258
Just when I begin to think that hope is lost for these forums because of all the name calling and arguments, I see a post like this that realy restores my faith in humanity and the brothers and sisters on this forum. I can assosiate with almost all of the symtoms that everyone has had the courage and strength to share. I have not been able to talk to anyone ,even my family about these feelings that I have been having but I need to thank everyone for being so open and honest when talking about such an important topic. I have said it before I do feel we are like a family,we have our differences and sometimes fights but when things are tough we are all there for one another...Sorry just my two cents.
SP Offline
#21 Posted:
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Posts: 609
Tar, Cheer up...........WOW, look at all the friends you have here, and most or all you have never seen in person. What a GREAT bunch of loving and caring people. You mention you have a daughter, I have three and one son. You, my BOTL are a fortunate person. Pick your self up and enjoy what is out there to offer.
Scotty
Cigarick Offline
#22 Posted:
Joined: 07-28-2002
Posts: 3,078
Work out. Drink less. Go camping. Hang out with your friends. Learn something new. The main thing is keep yourself busy and don't brood over it. If it gets really bad, take a pill. I like the orange ones.
SP Offline
#23 Posted:
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Posts: 609
^ ^ ^ ^
tailgater Offline
#24 Posted:
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 26,185
You guys are scaring me.
Do cigars bring on depression?

Just kidding, of course. But this thread makes me thankful for the good things I've got, including my family and my health.

Depression seems to be one of the deep, dark secrets that we only find out about when it is extremely severe, or when it's too late.
But like most chronic diseases, it affects all your loved ones every bit as much as it affects yourself.

I know I can be a sarcastic **** on these boards, but feel free to email me at anytime if you need to chat.
It can be about anything.
Or even about nothing.

jnasuti at argosco dot com
or on weekends: grafhik at juno dot com



JonR Offline
#25 Posted:
Joined: 02-19-2002
Posts: 9,740
The book...Your Erroneous Zones. The author... Dr. Wanye Dyer. The store... Amazon.com . That's all needed to be said. JonR
BigJim3793 Offline
#26 Posted:
Joined: 09-29-2002
Posts: 72
"Get over it!!"
"Don't be a whuus".(sp)
"Real men don't cry".

Ya,I've heard it all,and wondered whats wrong with me?Why can't I be like other people,you know, happy?
My depressive disorder went undiagnosed until I was 28.I did see a Pschy. when I was 13,my parents divorced and my Father put a stop to that, because no son of his needed to see a shrink,"just deal with it"he said.
I walked through life thinking other people had gotten the owners manual on life and happiness and I hadn't.

My answer was to self medicate,I got into drugs and alcohol.drugs to get me Up so that I could at least function, and drinking to numb the pain.
10+ years sober and 9 years under a doctors care, and life is better,much better.Knowledge that its an illness and can be managed is a life saver.
I am a sick person not a bad person.
Thank you for the topic and feel free to contact me anytime.
Jim
Jimgbigj at Aol dot com
plabonte Offline
#27 Posted:
Joined: 09-11-2000
Posts: 2,131
I don't think I have any clinical depression problems. But I get down like everyone else does from time to time.

I've found that I'm more likely to get depressed when I'm just sitting doing nothing. If I'm doing something (i.e. working on the house, playing in my band, going to the gym or biking or rollerblading, spending time with my wife doing something)I'm to busy to get down.

So when you are feeling down get up and doing something. Get your body moving and your mind working. I guess other then drugs this is the best thing to do.
choner Offline
#28 Posted:
Joined: 02-04-2003
Posts: 876
If men cried more often, this world would be a better place. It helps alot sometimes to cry.

My heart goes out to Tar and the rest of you who suffer from depression. I am fortunate enough to had a stable life, but have seen some good friends suffer severely. And its such a great feeling to know there are so many BOTL that are here to help one another out.

choner
Steve*R Offline
#29 Posted:
Joined: 07-23-2001
Posts: 1,858
I have great respect for those, here, with the courage to discuss their depression. I am very thankful that I, personally, have not experienced true depression, but a dear friend, a woman with four children and a loving husband, took her own life as a result of her depression, and I challenged myself to learn as much as I can about it.

Depression is not only treatable, it's beatable!

The new generation of selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, like Paxil, can virtually make depression disappear for many sufferers. But you absolutely must be both honest and proactive with your healthcare provider. If you feel like crap with the current prescribed medication, albeit, better than you did before, tell the Doc. Don't settle for just feeling okay.

Any medication, Zoloft, Paxil, Prozac taken without counseling and a plan of physical exercise isn't sufficient. If you are suffering from depression, weight gain and pain is very common. Exercise really helps and so does a solid nutritional plan.

Whatever you do..DON'T DISRGARD YOUR DEPRESSION THINKING IT WILL GO AWAY!! Depression doesn't just go away without the appropriate course of treatment.

And, always, keep in mind, that you has a human being, have value.
spence28 Offline
#30 Posted:
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I don't have anything really to add to the post, I just wanted to let everyone know that I think the people at this forum are awesome. I'm relatively new, I don't know you all that well, but this is a great post, and i'm glad all of you are sharing so much. Just outstanding.
Robby Offline
#31 Posted:
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Posts: 5,067
My wife's depression destroyed our marriage... It's an insidious disease. For the most part, it's invisible, it masquerades as other things, it is argumentative, defensive, aggressive and unyielding.

If you or someone you love is clinically depressed, beware... take steps (major ones) to protect yourself.
Cigarick Offline
#32 Posted:
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My mom suffered from clinical depression for years before they found the right combination of meds that finally worked, and now she's fine. Thing is, though, it sneaks up on you so gradually that you don't realize you're not supposed to feel like that. It's insidious, but you think it's normal.
xrundog Offline
#33 Posted:
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As a young man, I had some really low times. This is what I found out. No alcohol. It's a trigger. Exercise. Your brain loves the endorphins. Always remember that there are people who NEED you. I think there is still a stigma associated with this issue in the Navy. But if you relly need them, get the meds!
tarheel4lyf Offline
#34 Posted:
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xrundog-

what do you mean about the issue in the Navy? Just curious.....
xrundog Offline
#35 Posted:
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People just don't wanna hear about how you feel bad! That's what I mean. Yes the Navy has some good health care professionals. Use them. But the guys you work with just want you to get your job done. They may even hold it against you if you are debilitated. "There's nothing wrong with him. He oughta pull his weight". A broken leg is one thing. People can see it. Many people who haven't experienced depression don't believe it's a big deal. And they expect you to miraculously snap out of it. That's my opinion. I understand your experience may be different. In fact,I hope it is. I guess it's not just the Navy. Could be any job.
tarheel4lyf Offline
#36 Posted:
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I do know what you mean. I don't like to let anyone here on the ship know about my problems. Back on shore duty, it was easier to see the doc and not have others really know about it. On the ship, however, it is hard to keep anything personal.
wanyburger Offline
#37 Posted:
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Posts: 665
After reading this post I honestly could feel the pain here and the only thing that made me laugh was thinking about posting "hey we are beating a dead horse". At risk of offending many of those here I don't know, I hope those I do can laugh a bit at my attempt to bring back my nutty sense of humor. I leave you all with a bid of kudos. While I am not close to this issue, I envy your ability to share such personal experiences with honesty and courage. It's not easy to let people in, even behind the wall of anonymity; the internet. I don't think when I posted here 4 years ago, such a new forum would evolve to the point where the members would discuss such real issues.
mrtelcom Offline
#38 Posted:
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I have never seen a doc, but I have a weird tendancy to be depressed from 4-5am. I used to travel internationally a lot, and it was troublesome when it would be during normal hours.
Now, it only bugs me when I wake up early, and I have come to realize that it will pass soon..
Strange.
Steve*R Offline
#39 Posted:
Joined: 07-23-2001
Posts: 1,858
mrtelcom wrote: "weird tendancy to be depressed from 4-5am"

Check your temperature. It may also be a fluctuation in your Circadian rhythm. See the following article, which seems to address your issue:

http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/317/7174/1704
mrtelcom Offline
#40 Posted:
Joined: 03-25-2004
Posts: 2,255
Steve -

Thanks for the link. I will read more in depth later, but at first glance, I learned the hard way how the body has it's own internal clock. For instance - I would sit on a plane in Papua New Guinea and get totally bummed out about why in the hell am I over here, and it would snowball. I learned to check the watch and correlate with my body. "Oh yeah, my body thinks it is 4:30." An hour later, I was bartering for **** gourds at the market and having a grand time. ;-P

Still don't know why I get depressed during this time period when I am normally asleep, and am not real interested in going to a doc to figure it out since I have learned to recognize it for what it is.

I do know that I could not deal with that as a regular part of my life.

tarheel4lyf Offline
#41 Posted:
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sounds like the least of your problems. You need to find out why you are bartering for **** gourds......
rastusmcnair Offline
#42 Posted:
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It can be very hard to face the situaton and ask for help. It's all too easy to feel that depression is somehow your own fault or a flaw in your personality. I can relate to Tars' statement about breaking into tears and not understanding why. I took the step to seek help a few years ago. My Doctor prescribed Welbutrin. It's also prescribed to help You stop smoking. Well, My CBid bills make me question that idea, but its'certainly changed My life for the better.
Steve*R Offline
#43 Posted:
Joined: 07-23-2001
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tarheel4lyf: If you have a couple of **** guards on the fireplace mantel, you will never lack for a conversational starting point. For example:

"A noted botanist sought to create a gourd in my honor and after many years of hybridization developed the Gigante Schwantzorific, modeled after me."
Steve*R Offline
#44 Posted:
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Ahahah...I wrote **** guards instead of **** gourds...ahahahah!!!

Where's my wife....

Dear, You've gotta see what I just wrote...ahahahahah
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