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SP Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Nov 3 2003, 6:26 AM EST
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I heard on the radio this morning that they are banning all smoking on the beaches in Santa Cruz begining November 20th...........You can't get more Outside then that...........
BeatDragon Offline
#2 Posted: Mon, Nov 3 2003, 6:43 AM EST
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Bastages...

Well , I am reasonable sure that Mrs. Dragon and I are still going to spark up a stogie while strolling on the beach in the moonlight.

I say, let them eat cake, with cigar ashes on top!
BDS Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, Nov 3 2003, 7:25 AM EST
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Ok this makes no sense. The city tha passes out dope for free to make a point now bans any type of smoaking on the beach.
SteveS Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, Nov 3 2003, 7:30 AM EST
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guess that cigar I had in August while sitting on the deck at Ideal Bar and Grill could be the last I'll have there ... too bad, it was a nice experience
sketcha Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Nov 3 2003, 7:49 AM EST
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Freakin', hipocritic liberals. I haven't heard about this. Most likely this is a city ordinance. I'm at Pleasure Point which is considered East Side (way cooler). Still in Santa Cruz County, but not in the city. Capitola Village, where I tend bar should be O.K.

SteveS,

Ideal's sister co., Zelda's in Capitola Village should still be O.K. They have a better deck anyway.
eleltea Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Nov 3 2003, 8:22 AM EST
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It will be okay to smoke a joint on the beach, just not anything made of tobacco.
SP Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Nov 3 2003, 8:25 AM EST
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Well, to be fair.......Beaches are a major fire hazard, all that water and sand, very flammable.
SP Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Nov 3 2003, 8:29 AM EST
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sketcha, My wife is from Capitola (Well, Watsonville, but moved there as an adult) Sense I'm in Carmel, maybe I will stop by your bar sometime......
sketcha Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Nov 3 2003, 8:33 AM EST
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SP,

Right on. I work at Paradise Beach Grille. Fri, Sat, Sun, Mon nights. Call first just in case.

Cell 831-325-3044
BeatDragon Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Nov 3 2003, 8:35 AM EST
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**Thread Jack**

Dont waste yer time SP, he'll just come up with some sort of ailment and stand you up. Doesnt want you to know what he REALLY does there!

HA!

Sorry Sketch, couldnt resist!
sketcha Offline
#11 Posted: Mon, Nov 3 2003, 8:37 AM EST
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BTW my name is Kendall
BeatDragon Offline
#12 Posted: Mon, Nov 3 2003, 8:38 AM EST
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Oh, but I see you gave HIM your cell number...

Freakin bass player
sketcha Offline
#13 Posted: Mon, Nov 3 2003, 8:45 AM EST
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O.K. I'm busted. I'm really the men's room attendant.

Yeah, I was out with back trouble the night Beat came over.

Beat,
It is because of you that I'm giving out my number these days. I gave it to Slim yesterday. He's a Silicon Valley cat too.

For the record... I did email Beat a day before he came over, but he didn't check it. Stupid, freakin' drummers. Let that be a lesson to everyone.
BeatDragon Offline
#14 Posted: Mon, Nov 3 2003, 8:47 AM EST
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I feel so special and insulted all at the same time!!
sketcha Offline
#15 Posted: Mon, Nov 3 2003, 8:55 AM EST
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Then my work here is done.
sketcha Offline
#16 Posted: Mon, Nov 3 2003, 8:56 AM EST
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Beat,

Did you get my CD yet?
BeatDragon Offline
#17 Posted: Mon, Nov 3 2003, 8:58 AM EST
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Oh sure...

e-mail forth coming.

Hey everyone sketcha really is a bass player...a damn fine one at that!
sketcha Offline
#18 Posted: Mon, Nov 3 2003, 9:00 AM EST
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Only a stupid drummer would think that I'M a good bass player. Adequate is as strong a word as I would choose, but thanks anyway, Beat. = )
BeatDragon Offline
#19 Posted: Mon, Nov 3 2003, 9:37 AM EST
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C'mon now, it aint all that bad. Hey, compared to what we have heard auditioning for us lately, you would be at the top of the list.

But hell, what do I know, im just a stoopid drummer that got lucky to get a gig.
Sylance Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, Nov 3 2003, 12:20 PM EST
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I believe this was because of the cigarette butts that littered the beach. However, if that were truly the case, they would ban all drinks and food as well.

This is just another case of the government reacting to the sensitive few.
SP Offline
#21 Posted: Mon, Nov 3 2003, 12:59 PM EST
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^ Yoy right,cigarette butts were the issue at first, I think they had a clean-up day or something. But(no punn intended)now they have taken it a step further.
sketcha Offline
#22 Posted: Mon, Nov 3 2003, 1:18 PM EST
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My band played for a "Pack Your Trash" event on the point. They do several a year on the East side from Capitola to Seabright ave (Barrier for East/West sides). It kinda sucks that those who live here have to clean up the $hit that the Valley Kooks leave behind (present company excluded). Still, I've never heard of a call for a smoking ban on the East side, though.
sketcha Offline
#23 Posted: Mon, Nov 3 2003, 1:34 PM EST
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O.K. I forgot, their coverage area is slightly smaller. They normally go from 7th (East side of yacht harbor/Crow's Nest Restaurant/O'neil Beach) East to 41st Ave where Capitola begins.

Here's a link

http://www.packyourtrash.com/
hbooker Offline
#24 Posted: Mon, Nov 3 2003, 1:45 PM EST
Joined: 05-02-2001
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Hey guys - sure sounds like a drag that the city council decided that strange law...
It is however funny to see a drummer mention a good bass player..
Must be the one in a million who isn't a true flake..
Ohh wait If I read this thread right he did disapeere on the drummer once allready nuff said.. hehe..

Yeah, I had to hand you both a bit of stage humor..
Im just droppin in to read whats up over here.

I would be one of those "other guys in a band" at least when I did play..I kinda retired due to the "environment" of the places we travelled..


Hbooker
RknRmnd Offline
#25 Posted: Mon, Nov 3 2003, 3:17 PM EST
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Here is what I saw too SP,

Solana Beach, California, the small seaside town in San Diego County, will ban smoking on its 1.4 miles of beach starting Nov. 20. The ban was prompted by high school students, who first asked the city to declare September a nonsmoking month on the beaches and in parks, then pushed for a permanent ban. It was unanimously supported by the five-member City Council. First-time offenders can face a $100 fine.
Sucks! I thought the beach (distance of sandy area from high tide to low tide) was considered imminent domain even from land owners?
sketcha Offline
#26 Posted: Tue, Nov 4 2003, 8:09 AM EST
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I read that too, RR, in yesterday's Santa Cruz Sentinal. This article claimed that it was only Solana that was doing it. Thanks to those jerks, some in Santa Cruz are considering it, but many council members say they are not.

Still, better get over here and smoke at Ideal while you can. You never know.
KNOF Offline
#27 Posted: Wed, Nov 5 2003, 6:14 AM EST
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RknRmnd,
You need to understand the term your using.

"Eminent Domain" is the process whereby a person's rights to land are extinguished by the public or a public agency.



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