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Hillary's Visit To Iraq
Sylance Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 06-19-2003
Posts: 592
I know this will probably create a heated conversation, but those are fun aren’t they? Here is an article on Fox News (from nypost.com) on Hillary’s Iraq visit. I found it to be very interesting.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,104618,00.html

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Hillary Rodham Clinton has just returned from a badwill tour of Iraq, seeking to use the façade of saluting the troops and sharing their Thanksgiving to undermine the political support for their mission.



Using Iraq as a pulpit, she attacked Bush for having been "obsessed with Saddam Hussein for more than a decade." If only her husband had shared that obsession, Saddam would not have been permitted to rearm with oil revenues that President Clinton let him have and freed from inspectors that the Clinton administration let him kick out.

It is fine for a U.S. senator to go to Iraq to see for herself what the conditions are over there. It is even OK to get the taxpayers to foot the bill for the trip on military aircraft. She is, after all, a member of the Armed Services Committee (search) in the Senate.

What is not OK is to attack the president while you are there or to use your visit as a platform to criticize the war effort and the Pentagon. There is plenty of opportunity for that after one is home, out of earshot of the troops who must fight this war.

The classy thing for Hillary to have done would have been to go to Iraq, say nothing but supportive things to the troops, make a point of avoiding criticism of Bush -- and then unloose a salvo on arriving home.

Hillary doubtless went to Iraq because she figured Bush would be at home eating turkey and she enjoyed the idea of the contrast. But when the president upstaged her, she shouldn't have ventured out and used the visit to attack the war effort as she was visiting it.

The senator told the troops that while "Americans are proud" of them, "many question the administration's policies." Being told that you might die in a war that is under attack by people back home must be a great stimulant to combat morale. How sensitive of her to have shared that particular message with men and women who must face death to execute these policies.

She also made sure to plant doubts among the troops about the ability of their commanders, saying that "the obstacles and problems are much greater than the administration usually admits to."

With Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton for a friend, American soldiers don't need any more enemies.

The core of Sen. Clinton's argument, echoed by her pet poodle, Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., is a call for more troops for Iraq. "The Pentagon tried to make do with as few troops as possible," Clinton said, "as light a footprint as they could get away with. Now we're playing Catch-up." Sen. Reed, who voted against the war resolution, now wants to send even more troops as well.

Democrats are determined to make the political cost of this war more onerous and burdensome on the Republican president. By harping on the need for more manpower, they build the pressure with each combat death. If the Democrats can sell the proposition that more troops are needed, they can force Bush to move toward conscription (search) to fill the ranks.

Fortunately, Hillary's visit was drowned out by Bush's voyage to Baghdad. The liberal media tried to couple the two visits. The New York Times' headline was "Hail to the Chief; Hail to the Senator." But the visits are hardly comparable. Bush's was designed to raise morale, Hillary's to raise objections.

Bush sought to assure the troops of the united support of the people. Hillary wanted them to know that many people objected to what they are trying to do.

Bush's message was that we will persevere in the face of terrorism. Hillary's was that this war was due to one man's "obsession."

Sen. Clinton will do anything she can to attract attention and, where possible, divert it from the Democrats who are really running for president. But this trip, at this time, in this manner, in that place was wrong politically and morally.
jjohnson28 Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 09-12-2000
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"With Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton for a friend, American soldiers don't need any more enemies."

That pretty much says it all,dosen't it?
jdrabinski Offline
#3 Posted:
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Is this part of the fair and balanced thing? lol! Fox News is such a joke.
JonR Offline
#4 Posted:
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Yo jdrabinski: Of all people to question " fair and balanced ". You are the joke and a bad one at that. JonR
Sylance Offline
#5 Posted:
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I was careful to note that this originally came from the NY Post, guess you didn’t catch that. Also, if you’d bothered to actually go to the web site in the original post, you’d notice in big letters at the top of the screen the word “Views.” Now, I may be wrong but according to www.dictionary.com, the word “view” has various meanings, one of which is:

“An individual and personal perception, judgment, or interpretation; an opinion: In his view, aid to the rebels should be suspended. See Synonyms at opinion.”

Call me crazy, but I believe this means that the article is the writer’s opinion. Hmmmm....
jjohnson28 Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 09-12-2000
Posts: 7,914
Doh! Stepped on it again,eh jdrabinski? Damn! Thats really gotta hurt after a while dude...LOL
Robby Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 10-30-2002
Posts: 5,067
Let the Hildabeast wear a berka and walk two steps behind Bill...
DrMaddVibe Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,618
JJ, I kinda doubt it.

The Camarasaurus one of the largest living dinosaurs(weighing around 20 tons!) but the cranium housed a brain the size of a large grapefruit. If a species can roam the earth and and be devoid of intelligent thinking, I can see how he can too. It's an honest mistake, taking size in relation to what's really going on "upstairs".

The posts from the far left will become more desperate as their Mondale's get pared down. The whittling will leave the far left standing and the center moving over to Bush. It's gonna be great.
tailgater Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 26,185
John,
Since you already claimed that the Commander in Chief was "using" the soldiers for political gain, what is your interpretation of sir hillary's visit?
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