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al'Thor Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Nov 24 2003, 4:42 AM EST
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Can you believe the Cowboys just finished three 5-11 seasons and now under Bill Parcells they just beat Carolina and are now 8-3! With the same team! The only noticeable change in roster is Terry Glenn! I'm starting to believe Parcell's is the second coming of Christ...
DrMaddVibe Offline
#2 Posted: Mon, Nov 24 2003, 5:45 AM EST
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God doesn't leave you like Parcells has with many teams. When he goes...whoosh, back to 5-11 real quick.
rmarrandino Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, Nov 24 2003, 6:29 AM EST
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I've never been a big Parcell fan, but the guy's record is unbelievable. Everywhere he goes his teams win.

And then he takes this pitiful Dallas team and turns them into a contender in his first year. Not much left to say about the guy, except that I wish he was coaching the Bears.
mpingree Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, Nov 24 2003, 6:35 AM EST
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Don't know if I'd call him god but he's at least his right hand man :)

Go Cowboys !!
Charlie Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Nov 24 2003, 6:48 AM EST
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Great Coach? Yes!

God? NO

C
MrSecureT Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Nov 24 2003, 9:48 AM EST
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Actually they're not the same team that went 5-11 three straight seasons. Regardless, try not to forget that our offense sucks. We don't have a quarterback or running back, and we've been shut out twice recently and consistently have trouble putting points on the board. We've got a great defense, but trophies require balance. Still, the coach is doing a great job with the talent he's stuck with, but it would be better if he were a likable human being.
tailgater Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Nov 24 2003, 12:57 PM EST
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Best motivator in the game. Maybe ever.

But best coach? Think not.

Let's not forget that the woeful 5-11 cowboys of last season had the 5th ranked Defense in the league.

Tuna excells with a weak schedule. His motivation won't let teams have a let-down game.

Just keep him out of the GM/Personell director role. He is amazingly average.
MrSecureT Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Nov 24 2003, 1:01 PM EST
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"Best motivator in the game. Maybe ever."

No, he's not a motivator. He's an old school intimidator, and that's not the same thing. It gets results in the short run, but it doesn't last. Sooner or later everyone gets tired of being treated like crap. That may have worked 40 years ago but not anymore--not for long.
usahog Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Nov 24 2003, 1:06 PM EST
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Al'Thor... I have Always Been a Cowboy's Fan... and it is Great to See the Boys back up on top... but they've been there many times... the Best thing for them is to keep Jerry Jones out of the Locker Room and from making Plays!!!!!!! that has been the Coaching Downfalls throughout the years... We'll see after this season if Parcells can keep Jerry at Bay!!!!! God I Hope So!!!!!!

Hog
huskey Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Nov 24 2003, 1:15 PM EST
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Mr.SecureT,

The motivation of WINNING worked 40 years ago, works today and will work 40 years from now. Believe it or not even today's athlete will work a little harder if they believe winning will result. The best coaches are the ones that have their players conned into believing
if you just do it my way we will win.

Parcells fits this mold.
BeatDragon Offline
#11 Posted: Mon, Nov 24 2003, 1:26 PM EST
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My .02

I think the Cowboys success is more a testament to Dave Compo's ineptness than Parcell's Godlyness.

His previous reclamation projects were nowhere near as talented as the Cowboys. Well at least on defense. His offensive philosphy, albeit succesful, is rather pedestrian and would seem easy enough for NFL calibur players to execute.
savbond000 Offline
#12 Posted: Tue, Nov 25 2003, 2:29 PM EST
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I like the Cowboys. I like Bill Parcels. I was a very happy camper when I heard he was their new coach and I knew that he was going to take that team and make them respectable once again. He's not Tom Landry, he's nowhere near God, but he's pretty damn good.

Patrick
billreif Offline
#13 Posted: Tue, Nov 25 2003, 2:51 PM EST
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Lets see what god does for the rest of the year.
billreif Offline
#14 Posted: Tue, Nov 25 2003, 2:54 PM EST
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I hated the cowboys since I
was about 8 years old.
Now the cheerleaders,
that's a whole different story.
tailgater Offline
#15 Posted: Tue, Nov 25 2003, 6:00 PM EST
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MrsecureT,
In fact, he IS a motivator.
So much so that I'm convinced he would have excelled regardless of his chosen field of endeavor.
True, he intimidates some. But he mentors others. And all the while he brings out the BEST player in each person on the field.
Players that HATE him later take reduced pay to play for him. Look no further than Terry Glenn.

I am still not convinced that his "coaching" is at the tops in the league. But so many great X and O guys can't motivate todays athletes.

And he's still the best post-game interview in football.
jdrabinski Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Nov 26 2003, 6:56 AM EST
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"God doesn't leave you like Parcells has with many teams"

I beg to differ. God left the Jews for the Christians, left the Christians for the Muslims, left the Muslims for the Mormons...who's next? The dude (Dude?) has a wandering eye, methinks.

Now I am even more convinced that Parcells is God.

Except that he now has brought the endlessly annoying Cowboys back to prominence. For that, he cannot be forgiven. I was lovin' the 5-11 string...
rasdas Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Nov 26 2003, 7:22 AM EST
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I hate the Cowboys....and i live in Texas...

RasDas

Joe
coma-one Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Nov 26 2003, 9:40 AM EST
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Me too!! I have always been a COWBOY'S FAN!!!!!
(yeah right!!) about as much as I am an Ohio State Fan!!!!

Sorry fellas but I don't like the Cowboy's. As far as him beeing the best coach, well I tottally disagree. What about Don Shula, Mike Shanahan , Chuck Noll, Bill Walsh?????

I agree that Parcell is a good coach and worthy of admiration, taken this franchise as he has is at the very least worth mentioning, however GOD???? Oh, no, no, no!!!!

Sorry Ethan,!!!
choner Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Nov 26 2003, 9:58 AM EST
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Parcells is a Great Coach. He has turned every team he's touched to have a winning season. His Patriots went to the Super Bowl, his Jets had a great season after having a streak of bads one before Parcells got there. And 2 Super Bowls with the Giants is all you can ask for. And now look what he does to a terrible Cowboys team in only one off season.

Bill Walsh is the greatest, but Parcells is up there. Every owner in the league would love to have Parcells, because they know how great he is. Every player in the league knows how great he is. He knows how great he is. You don't turn losing teams around like that by being just good.

choner
al'Thor Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Nov 26 2003, 10:13 AM EST
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well put Long, nevertheless, everyone else has shown me there error of my ways, I will now take down the Bill Parcell's shrine that I put up in my living room and will cancel the sacrifices to him..... and although I detested the team during the Dynasty of the mid 90's, this is a new team that I'm starting to like and the Parcell's that I hear every day on the radio sounds like a coach I wouldn't mind playing for - especially with the results he gets.
chipslave Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Nov 26 2003, 10:21 AM EST
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Ethan...

How could you trun your back on Lou Holtz? He is a great coach, or is this thread mainly with NFL not college?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Nov 26 2003, 12:30 PM EST
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John Madden, Tom Landry, Bill Belichick, Jimmy Johnson, ****** Vermiel and the one and only Vince Lombardi. Those are some coaches that make Parcells look weak. The intimidation by fear game doesn't work anymore. Not when you're dealing with millionaires.
choner Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, Nov 26 2003, 12:52 PM EST
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To say that Bill Belichick, Jimmy Johnson, and ****** Vermiel make Parcells look weak is so wrong. If you ask any owner in the league who they want as their head coach, more then half would say Parcells. I don't know what you are basing your comments on DMV.

As for Madden, he was a good coach but only won one title and quit after 10 years, never tried to coach again with another team. Tom Landry and Lombardi were Great.

Parcells does not intimidate, he pushes for perfection, and it works. He knows how to deal with high salary players, because he has their respect. Without respect, a head coach is useless, you can ask Schottenheimer about that. But the thing is, Parcells is winning with non-superstars on his team, which is why you must admire him.

choner
DrMaddVibe Offline
#24 Posted: Wed, Nov 26 2003, 1:08 PM EST
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I didn't say I don't admire him. He's not God. The other coaches that I mentioned are the ones that I believe truly know the game next to the true master...Bill Walsh(whom someone else mentioned).

You can pray all you want to Parcell's, but look at the way "his" teams self-destruct when he leaves! That's nothing to marvel at. He decimates teams with bloated budgets and then whistles his way to another team that welcomes him like a local whorehouse when the fleet pulls in.
JonR Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Nov 27 2003, 4:08 PM EST
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Miami - 40....God - 21. JonR
Messier11 Offline
#26 Posted: Thu, Nov 27 2003, 4:48 PM EST
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Go Iggles!!!!
billreif Offline
#27 Posted: Sat, Nov 29 2003, 1:10 PM EST
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GO EAGLES !!!
Dallas S____s
tailgater Offline
#28 Posted: Tue, Dec 2 2003, 12:09 PM EST
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I've lived through Parcells with the Patriots.
He is indeed one of the greats.

But I honestly believe his talents lie strickly in motivation. Players hate playing for him. Until they leave and get lazy with so-called "player coaches". Then they go back to regain their glory years.

But the Tuna is barely half the coach Bellicheck is.
Little Bill utilizes talent in a manner in which Parcells only dreams he could.

I know.
I've had the fortune of living (and dying) with both.

Go Pats!

B Naked Offline
#29 Posted: Tue, Dec 2 2003, 5:36 PM EST
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I hope Bill Parcells is God. Then maybe he can create a miracle and let my Cowboys have a shot of winning this weekend in Philly. Philly is just looking too damn good lately. McNabb is due to have a bad game (but I'll settle for divine intervention)
JonR Offline
#30 Posted: Tue, Dec 2 2003, 5:45 PM EST
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Yo B Naked: Fogedabodid, Eagles are No.1. JonR
al'Thor Offline
#31 Posted: Wed, Dec 3 2003, 4:01 AM EST
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Don't worry - Eagles don't have a shot with that pathetic quarterback - everyone knows people just like him 'cause he's black....
coma-one Offline
#32 Posted: Wed, Dec 3 2003, 6:32 AM EST
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Props to Philly, no doubt, however I belive that the Patriots will go all the way this year. It would be cool to have New England - Philly Super Bowl!!!
choner Offline
#33 Posted: Wed, Dec 3 2003, 2:51 PM EST
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Ethan, are you on painkillers again?

choner
al'Thor Offline
#34 Posted: Thu, Dec 4 2003, 5:08 AM EST
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hahaha - ok, seriously, I don't think I'll be able to watch the blood bath that is imminent on Sunday - but get this - the city of Dallas just announced a 'task force' to start planning a Super Bowl party - should the need arise - man! Talk about your Optimists here in Dallas!!!!
tonester666 Offline
#35 Posted: Thu, Dec 4 2003, 5:44 AM EST
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Philly, Dallas and superbowl in the same sentence. Y'all need to drop the crack pipe. And lookout for the Blue and Gold.

I'd like to see an Indy vs St Louis I-70 bowl
tailgater Offline
#36 Posted: Thu, Dec 4 2003, 7:58 AM EST
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Indy?
Manning proved last weekend that he can't win the big games.
And Dungee is terrible in the post season.

Indy will be watching the SB along with St. Louis, from their couches at home.

Philly - New England.

Write it down...
Charlie Offline
#37 Posted: Thu, Dec 4 2003, 9:15 AM EST
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Lets go for Kansas City Chiefs vs St Louis or Philadelphia!

Charlie
tonester666 Offline
#38 Posted: Thu, Dec 4 2003, 9:42 AM EST
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I agree with the Indy comments but Manning is my fanatsy QB. The Rams are good enough to go all the way if they do not beat themselves. They are almost completely healthy.
Charlie Offline
#39 Posted: Thu, Dec 4 2003, 9:47 AM EST
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Martz will come up with some way to loose!

C
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