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RICKAMAVEN Offline
#1 Posted:
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Judge rules Pentagon cannot force servicemen and women to take anthrax vaccination against their will...
AVB Offline
#2 Posted:
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Now I'd like the link to the story. Can't win can ya Rick?
RICKAMAVEN Offline
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http://apnews.myway.com/article/20031222/D7VJJDK01.html
usahog Offline
#4 Posted:
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Posts: 22,691
Better Late then Never is Right Rick...Now maybe our Military brothers and sisters will have a fighting chance on the War on Terror..

this link was sent to me by another BOTL.. CWil...

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MILITARY_ANTHRAX?SITE=DCTMS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Soon I will be either heading to Walter Reed.. or Wilford Hall in Texas to have some of the Best in medical care there is give me the best diagnoses...
But my Military Days I believe have been cut short along with so many others....

Hog
usahog Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 12-06-1999
Posts: 22,691
recently as much as a few months ago.. the USA had a little over 600 servicemembers held up at Ft. Stewart not Combat ready to fight... since the Iraqi Freedom... the US Military has had out of 130,000 members 4,000 Known non Combat related Illness's... Most all this is suspected from the Anthrax and Smallpox Vaccines... there are also quite a few deaths involved here and questionable... but in 2000 this **** was yanked off the shelves because the manufacture was found unsanitary by the FDA.. then again in 2002 studies found that the Vaccines the company had bought out they were changing the experation dates and administering this to troops anyways...
more info for all is
www.anthraxvaccine.org
www.milvacs.org

God Bless that Judge and God Bless Our Troops!!!!!

Hog
usahog Offline
#6 Posted:
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A22760-2003Dec22.html

Anthrax Shots Require Consent, Military Told

By Vernon Loeb
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, December 23, 2003; Page A03

A federal judge in Washington yesterday ordered the Pentagon to stop administering an anthrax vaccine to U.S. service members without their consent, ruling that defense officials cannot require troops to "serve as guinea pigs for experimental drugs."

In blocking mandatory anthrax inoculations until a full trial can be held on the matter, U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan agreed with the contention by six unnamed Defense Department plaintiffs that the anthrax vaccine is an experimental drug "being used for an unapproved purpose" -- namely, for exposure to airborne anthrax as well as exposure through the skin. As such, he ruled, it cannot under federal law be administered to service members on a mandatory basis.

Sullivan said he was not persuaded by arguments from Pentagon lawyers that administering the vaccine on a voluntary basis would interfere with military operations in Iraq and elsewhere. But if they believe that is the case, the judge said, federal law gives them the option of obtaining a presidential waiver of service members' right to informed consent. Such a waiver, Sullivan wrote, "would be an expeditious end to this controversy."

Sullivan's ruling comes with more than 800,000 U.S. troops having received the vaccine since 1998. Many of them received the vaccine -- a series of six injections -- last year, before deploying to fight the war in Iraq.

Hundreds of other service members have refused to take the vaccine out of concerns about its safety. Many of them have been court-martialed and forced out of the military. As recently as this month, an Ohio National Guard soldier was court-martialed for twice refusing the take the vaccine and sentenced to 40 days in jail.

A Pentagon spokesman had no immediate comment on Sullivan's ruling and would not say whether those who had been disciplined could now seek to have their cases reconsidered. Charles Miller, a spokesman for the Justice Department, which represents the Pentagon in the case, said: "No determination has been made as to what our next step will be. In that it is a preliminary injunction, there is no finality to this ruling at this stage."

Mark S. Zaid, a Washington lawyer representing the Defense Department plaintiffs, said there is "no significant evidence that this vaccine is safe or effective against weaponized anthrax. It is simply an experimental vaccine."

"There have been several deaths potentially linked to the vaccine," Zaid said, "and there have been thousands of people who have become ill in cases allegedly linked to the vaccine."

Rep. Christopher Shays (R-Conn.), a leading congressional opponent of mandatory anthrax vaccines, said the ruling was "an affirmation of what we have been saying for years and years."

"The military needs to back off, make amends and restore in good standing those that have been punished," he said.

Sen. Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.), who introduced a resolution in November asking the Pentagon to reconsider its program of mandatory anthrax vaccinations, said Sullivan's ruling gives the Pentagon an opportunity to rethink its anthrax vaccine policy, particularly now that no weapons of mass destruction have been discovered in Iraq.

The Clinton administration launched the anthrax immunization program in 1998 with the intention of requiring all 2.4 million military personnel to receive the vaccine. But the program faltered almost immediately when the vaccine's only manufacturer, BioPort Corp. of Lansing, Mich., was unable to obtain a license from the Food and Drug Administration because of faulty manufacturing processes.

As it worked on plans for invading Iraq, the Bush administration announced in June 2002 that it was resuming mandatory anthrax vaccinations for service members being sent to "high-threat" areas such as Iraq and Afghanistan for more than 15 days.

Eugene R. Fidell, a Washington lawyer who is an expert on military law, lauded Sullivan for his ruling. "It is quite remarkable that at a time of active military operations, the federal courts remain open and ready, when the record supports it, to order the government around," Fidell said. "It's really quite remarkable."

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usahog Offline
#7 Posted:
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Anthrax shots no longer mandatory

Judge rules Pentagon can not force military to take vaccine.

BY LAURI HARVEY
Times Staff Writer


The Pentagon must stop forcing members of the military to take the anthrax vaccine against their will, unless President Bush signs a special order, a judge ruled Monday.

Department of Defense officials argued that refusing the shots puts other service members at risk.

Six plaintiffs working for the military in sworn and civilian positions filed a class action suit in May after being ordered to take the vaccine. Three obeyed the order and three did not.

The news of Monday's court ruling came to Moses Lacy of Lynwood as his family prepared to face its first Christmas since his daughter Rachael's death this spring. A coroner ruled the anthrax shots were contributing factors in the U.S. Army Reservist's death, and the Pentagon announced last month that the vaccines may have caused her death.

"That is the best Christmas present a person can have," Moses Lacy said. "I'm touched."

Rachael Lacy, 22, died in April after receiving the vaccination, along with a smallpox inoculation.

She made no attempt to refuse the vaccines, but others who have faced the consequences. Military records show some half a million service members have received the vaccine since they became mandatory in 1998.

Some servicemen and women have faced disciplinary action, even courts-marshal, for refusing the shots. Because the program is administered by military commanders -- not doctors -- refusing the shots was considered refusing an order.

Maj. Thomas "Buzz" Rempfer, of the Connecticut Air National Guard, refused to take the vaccine in 1998 and was subsequently grounded. He has been a strong voice in the fight against requiring the inoculations.

Rempfer -- speaking on his personal opinions and not on behalf of the military -- praised Monday's decision.

"The legislation that will naturally follow from this federal court decision will hopefully be enacted in memory of U.S. Army Reserve Specialist Rachael Lacy," Rempfer said. "Her ultimate sacrifice will set a precedent where our (Department of Defense) will never again be allowed to knowingly and illegally experiment on our soldiers."

Monday's decision is a preliminary injunction requested by the military personnel as part of its suit.

The risk of anthrax exposures to service members was feared to have been from anthrax weapons the military believed were being produced by Iraq and other nations.

Critics have argued for years that the vaccines were never given proper Food and Drug Administration approval for use in fighting inhalation anthrax. The Pentagon contends the vaccine is safe and effective for all forms of anthrax.

U.S. District Court Judge Emmet G. Sullivan said in his ruling Monday that the rate of adverse reaction to the vaccine was recently revised from 0.2 percent to between 5 percent and 35 percent. Six deaths have been attributed to the shots, he said.

Sullivan said the anthrax vaccinations fall under a 1998 law prohibiting the use of certain experimental drugs unless people being given the drug consent or the president waives the consent requirement.

"The women and men of our armed forces put their lives on the line every day to preserve and safeguard the freedoms that all Americans cherish and enjoy," Sullivan said in his ruling. "Absent an informed consent or presidential waiver, the United States cannot demand that members of the armed forces also serve as guinea pigs with experimental drugs."

The Pentagon had no immediate comment.

Moses Lacy said Monday that the judge's ruling echoed the sentiments he has had about the drug since Rachael's death.

"That's what I've been saying all along, that they shouldn't be giving it without informed consent," he said.

Rachael Lacy was studying to be a nurse when she was called to active duty in February. The South Suburban College student worked at a Lansing pizzeria and was a member of the 452 Combat Surgical Hospital unit out of Milwaukee, where she served as a combat medic.

Her unit arrived at Fort McCoy, Wis., on Feb. 27 to prepare for deployment to the Middle East.

She received the smallpox and anthrax vaccines along with the other soldiers in her unit within the week. Rachael began feeling ill March 17, and she went to a local emergency hospital in Sparta, Wis., about seven miles from Fort McCoy.

The doctors there began giving Rachael antibiotics, thinking she had pneumonia. She was then referred and admitted to a hospital in LaCrosse, Wis. When Rachael's condition did not improve, she was sent to the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn., on April 2.

She died there three days later.

The official cause of death noted on the death certificate is diffuse alveolar damage, meaning widespread damage to the sacks of the lungs.

Contributing conditions listed on the death certificate included, "recent smallpox and anthrax vaccination."

Moses Lacy said he found "a great deal of comfort" in the judge's ruling Monday and felt his daughter's death contributed to the outcome.

"If it had not been for my daughter Rachael's passing, I think it would have continued," he said. "Nobody would have taken a good look at it.

"Certainly there have been other young men and women who have died and become ill (as a result of the vaccines), but I think my daughter's death was the spearhead that brought this to where it is right now. Although it will not bring her back, I think it should be in her honor."

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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usahog Offline
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Federal judge: Anthrax vaccine not mandatory
Troops not meant to be 'guinea pigs'
By PATRICK JACKSON
Dover Bureau reporter
12/23/2003

Saying members of the American armed forces should not be used as "guinea pigs for experimental drugs," a federal judge on Monday ordered the Pentagon to stop mandatory anthrax vaccinations started in 1998.

More than 900,000 servicemen and women have received the shots, among the millions of doses of various vaccines administered annually to protect troops against disease and bioterror threats. Hundreds of service members, including several at Dover Air Force Base, have been punished or discharged for refusing to receive the shots, according to the Pentagon.

U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan said he was persuaded by plaintiffs in a class-action lawsuit that the vaccine is experimental and being "used for an unapproved purpose" - that is, for exposure to airborne anthrax as well as exposure through the skin.

Officials at the Defense Department and Food and Drug Administration said they had not seen the ruling and had no immediate comment. But the federal government has long maintained the licensed vaccine is safe, is not experimental and can be used for protection against anthrax inhaled or absorbed through the skin.

Anthrax is a naturally occurring virus that typically affects sheep and cattle. When inhaled, dry anthrax spores can be deadly to humans. The anthrax vaccine has been approved since the 1970s and used regularly to protect veterinarians and scientists working with anthrax who might contract it through the skin.

Sullivan's ruling could be of some help to a former Dover Air Force Base C-5 pilot who was honorably discharged in 2000 for refusing to be vaccinated. Former Air Force Maj. Sonnie Bates at one point faced a possible court martial for his refusal.

A lawsuit challenging the vaccine filed by Bates in the Washington, D.C., court in 2001 was dismissed last year. But Sullivan's ruling could provide new grounds for Bates to seek reinstatement or restoration of the military pension he lost, said Bates' lawyer Mark Zaid, a Washington attorney also involved in the lawsuit that led to Sullivan's ruling Monday.

"It's about time," said Bates, now a civilian pilot. "This may open the door for the walking wounded from this vaccine to get the health treatments they need and for some of the younger lieutenants, captains and airmen who had to end their careers because of this to rejoin the military."

The case in Monday's ruling was brought on behalf of six unnamed active members of the military or National Guard, and civilian Department of Defense employees who had been ordered to take the vaccine. Three of the six plaintiffs had submitted to part of the six-shot vaccination series while awaiting the court's ruling.

In a 34-page decision, Sullivan issued a preliminary order barring the military from forcing troops to take the shots without their consent. Sullivan's order left room for President Bush to issue an order overriding him while the lawsuit moves ahead.

"The women and men of our armed forces put their lives on the line every day to preserve and safeguard the freedoms that all American cherish and enjoy," Sullivan wrote. "Absent an informed consent or presidential waiver, the United States cannot demand that members of the armed forces also serve as guinea pigs for experiential drugs."

If Sullivan's ruling is upheld at trial and on appeal, Zaid said it might give Bates, who served for 13 years, grounds to challenge the Air Force decision to deny his pension benefits.

Bates was the highest-ranking officer to step down from active duty rather than take the shots.

Former Defense Secretary William Cohen ordered troops to take the shots in 1997 to protect them from the weapons-grade, airborne anthrax the military thought Iraq had developed.

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Homebrew Offline
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I do have a few questions regarding this experimental vaccine. What Company makes it. How come they got to use the US military as guinea pigs, free of charge? Human trials are very expensive, so they got a huge gift, from the taxpayers. Who Okayed using our fighting men and women, as Guinea pigs, in the first place?? As I feel there should be repercussions, for their decision. And on a sinister note, Did the person, or persons who did OK, the Use of our fighting men and women, have anything to gain financially?? By ownership of stocks??? etc. If so, what repercussions will this ruling have?? And what should be done to them, if they stood to gain financially, what should be done with them??? Myself, if that turns out to be the case, think they should be dropped HALO, into the middle of Iran in Drag, wearing the LOD uniform, and carrying a sign that says F@#k Mohammad, or me.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
tarheel4lyf Offline
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them shots hurt like the dickens, too
usahog Offline
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used to be owned by a company named MBPI.. who sold out to Bioport, Bioport was incorporated within... Admril William Crowe and many others had some major stock in the company...anyways was found unsanitary because of the mass producing and other proceedures that was going on... Bioport was also caught changing the experation dates on some of the Vaccines this was found out about in 2002 studies... 6 of 40 vaccines tested failed but many were sent out anyways...
Bioport went belly up and your's truely picked up the chapter 11... later to be bought again by a company name of Biotrax.. sounds catchy huh???

defence sec. rumsfeld because of the iraqi war and push by many other military high brass.. put this vaccine back in motion.. still never being thurough
and tested to meet FDA standards.. lables were changed and back in the field it went...
who gets the money's?? Stockholders...
who suffers the Fighting Men and Women of the UNITED STATES MILITARY!!!!!!!!!

Vaccine doses run from $3.27 - $7.25 a dose X's 900,000??? Many more times that..

I'm glad this came to happen now... but I myself have a long road and battle ahead of me....

Hog
RICKAMAVEN Offline
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usahog

a battle you should win.
CWFoster Offline
#13 Posted:
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Amen to what Rick said!

Tar- Yeah, made your arm feel like someone set it on fire!
fudge Offline
#14 Posted:
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Besides everything else that should happen, the people involved in changing the dates on the bottles should be going to jail. They are just playing games with people lives and getting rich doing it. Pisses me off.

Good luck usahog, and everyone else who got stuck with this stuff.

Zed
usahog Offline
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At the end of his Opinion preceding this Order, the judge wrote, “Absent an informed consent or presidential waiver, the United States cannot demand that members of the armed forces serve as guinea pigs for experimental drugs.”

If GWB does not revoke this entirly, I will be voting differently coming 2004... My Military Brothers and Sisters mean more to me and this Country does also.. then **** Blood Money does....

http://www.berkshireeagle.com/Stories/0,1413,101~6267~1862210,00.html

how many more???

you want in on the petition? you give a **** about the United States Military men and women???
drop me an email.. usahogathotmaildotcom
Add a stamp to the letter I sent you in an email, and send it also add your 2 cents worth to it on the end.. let your Senators and Congressmen know they work for YOU!!!! wish I could underline that part....

btw I'm a prick...

Hog
cwilhelmi Offline
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Am I crazy or did I see something on the news saying they're going to reverse this now?
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